‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens,’ ‘The Martian,’ & ‘Mr. Robot’: Frontrunners or long shots? (Video)

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'Star Wars' soars
With it's socko box office, can 'Star Wars: The Force Awakens' break through with a Best Picture nomination?

Jacob doesn't think so: "They have too high standards to be influenced by the public and what's popular." Tony disagrees: "No one has captured the zeitgeist the way that 'Star Wars' has. It made $50 million on Christmas Day alone. No one expected it to be as well reviewed as it has been." And Amanda chimes in on the expanded Best Picture race: "If they don't put 'Star Wars' in, the reason for having 10 has failed."

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'The Martian' director
 Ridley Scott, the helmer of the sci-fi flick "The Martian," is a strong contender to win Best Director. This has forum posters wondering if he can win after three losses?

For Tony: "It seemed like there was certainly some momentum in that direction. But right now, I think Best Director is a real head-scratcher. Amanda thinks: "There's no question for me, I think Ridley Scott's time has come. He's someone that should have an Oscar by now."

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'Rocky' back in the ring:
Sylvester Stallone is back in the Oscar game for his supporting turn in "Creed." This has forum posters asking if he will win almost four decades after losing for original 'Rocky'?

Amanda explains: "He's got a pretty decent backstory of not winning for 'Rocky.' I think he's probably got this." However, Jacob questions: "Do you think the comeback narrative is really going to be enough? Sylvester Stallone hasn't just been a Razzie winner, he's been a perpetual Razzie winner."

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'Mr. Robot' running the circuit
On the TV side of things, our posters have been talking about 'Mr. Robot' which broke through with three Golden Globe nominations.

Amanda admits: "I don't like predicting sweeps at the Globes but right now I'm predicting it in all three categories." Tony cautions: "the Globes also have a habit of being late to the party, like they were with 'Breaking Bad.' There's a small possibility if it's not 'Mr. Robot,' I I think it's going to be 'Game of Thrones.'"

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12 thoughts on “‘Star Wars: The Force Awakens,’ ‘The Martian,’ & ‘Mr. Robot’: Frontrunners or long shots? (Video)

  1. “They have too high standards to be influenced by the public and what’s popular.”

    I think that’s REALLY over-simplifying my statements: They don’t just nominate something because they’re told they’re SUPPOSED TO.

    The Grand Budapest Hotel, Gravity, Argo, Life of Pi, Django Unchained, The Oscars WILL nominate stuff that’s popular. It just has to be good and not GARBAGE! 😉

    Also, The Failed Awakening, whether or not you like it, is admittedly “Age of Ultron level at best” to quote one of our wiser users here on Goldderby. I couldn’t not see a movie this soullessly corporate, the only purpose of it existence being to SELL MERCHANDISE, getting nominated for such a prestigious Award. Not over Straight Outta Compton, Beasts of No Nation, Creed, or Brooklyn even.

  2. I do not think Star Wars deserves a Best Pic slot, but it was a fun film, so we half agree on its award show pedigree. I hate to say this but hating Star Wars just feels like a fan boy/girl twitter thing to do. Just my opinion. You did not like it fine, I do not need endless rants, on here or twitter. People become so enraptured with their favorite they often just crap on everything else. I have learned to walk away from that perspective. I will give you an example Joy, I could have ripped it to shreds, but there are elements I loved which should be celebrated, so I blended my analysis, and was critical, but brought up every aspect. I am frustrated that analysis has turned into politics, namely which person can yell the loudest.

    Two last comments, You can blame original creator for the commercialization this franchise, that is not Abrams fault. I gotta call you out, for liking Kingsmen, one of the most misogynistic films of the year, the last line alone was so bad it made me groan, but that is Matt Vaughn.

  3. Actually, I am a HUGE feminist!

    Here is why I HATED Star Wars: Spoilers Galore!

    This is intended as a wake-up call from a true, diehard Star Wars fan! If you don’t agree that’s fine, but know that this is all my genuine opinion.

    I came into this movie with decent expectations; I just wanted it to be at least decent! A good script, characters, just a nice fun Sci-Fi action/adventure movie was all I asked for. BUT my Worst Fears were realized, they just copied off of the Original Star Wars too much, and I thought Kylo Ren was freaking WEAK, to be honest.

    Before I really go on a self-therapeutic rant against The Force Awakens’ shortcomings, two things I liked:

    1. The 3D was awesome for the first half hour or so, BEFORE the weak script renders it forgettable.

    2. I laughed a lot at the humor in this movie, so after so many EPIC FAILS with the Prequels, it’s nice to see a SW movie that has a good sense of humor, with no poop or fart jokes to be seen. 🙂

    I also laughed a lot at the parts that weren’t meant to be funny and were supposed to be serious, though…..

    Oh, and to some extent John Boyega did pretty good with what he was given overall, in spite of his character talking and behaving nothing like what a soldier who’s been conditioned since childhood would talk and act like. It really bothered me as well how glossed-over his betraying the First Order was, seeing as how he has served these monsters most of his life evidently. If you want a fast-paced movie, then fine. But I’d far prefer it if it wasn’t at the cost of neglecting crucial character development story points like that.

    Now that we’re done with that……………………….. >:O

    If you’ve seen the first Star Wars from ’77, YOU’VE ALREADY seen this movie. I don’t think it’s “Nitpicking” to ask for a franchise to not repeat SO MANY OF THE EXACT SAME PLOT POINTS as your more successful predecessor.

    C’mon we gave J.J. Abrams a hard time over Star Trek: Into Darkness ripping off The Wrath of Khan, but at least that had the whole “parallel universe” thing as an actually kind of clever excuse. Here in The Force Awakens, It is the same story as before, only the same universe.

    How stupid is this First Order, didn’t they remember how the first 2 DEATH STARS DIDN’T WORK?!?!?!?

    And at least TRY to remember that that there is a fine line between “paying homage” and ripping off!
    Heck we gave Return of the Jedi all sorts of shit for doing a second death star, now we have a THIRD ONE (no wait, Starkiller Base, no wait………… It’s the exact same thing!), and everyone is trying to justify it by saying obvious things like “well, every movie has flaws.” “The Originals weren’t perfect.” Although Empire is about as perfect as any movie that has EVER BEEN MADE, not just as a Star Wars Movie IMO.

    R2-D2 is depressed and shit because Luke is not around, and Gwendoline Christie is utterly WASTED as Captain Phasma, being given what can be effectively called a glorified cameo!
    I would have been fine w/ the new Death Star to be perfectly honest, it’s just that I couldn’t stand how everything felt so insultingly…. by the numbers. It’s just as heartless and a waste of potential as Terminator Genysys IMHO, and that’s saying a ton because I hated Terminator Genysys, yet I hate this Force Awakens shit more, because by this point, you just automatically have higher expectations for the current SW movie than ANY of the past few Terminator movies!!!

    Go easy on me guys PLEASE, but even John Williams score wasn’t that impressive, and if it had been done by another composer, I don’t think I would have noticed. It shockingly makes me glad that Michael Giacchino did the Score for Jurassic World, a much better-directed movie, WITH FLAWS, granted. But doesn’t every movie have flaws? Isn’t that the argument that’s being used to defend TFA, this…… THING?!?!

    I want to cry right now because of how much I HATE this movie the more I think about it, due to my realization that it isn’t a movie at all, it’s a PRODUCT, so desperate to please the fans and prequel-haters (myself being a PROUD Prequel-hater, BTW) that it LOSES IT’S OWN IDENTITY in the process, similar as to how Man of Steel failed when they made it too dark as a result of trying to please the fans that hated Superman Returns.
    I say similar, not exactly however, because as much as I hate and completely despise the shaky-handheld cam mess that was Man of Steel (I’m using Man of Shit as the POSITIVE when talking about the new Star Wars movie, even I can’t believe this is happening) the Snyder film at least didn’t try to copy off its successful predecessors and took a HUGE risk by trying to forge its own unique identity in Superman canon. Sure MoS failed miserably IMO, but at least it deserves serious credit for TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

    It’s so traumatizing for me that the franchise that became a phenomenon on delivering us a universe we hadn’t seen ANYTHING like before has become determined to rehash its own story, only worse and more by the numbers than when it previously did it. In other words, if you liked The Amazing Spider Man 1 (I confess I did, UNTIL the shitty 2nd one w/ Jamie Foxx came out “barf”), you’ll probably like this.

    I’m going to just ignore EVERYTHING Disney does from now on that’s related to Star Wars.

    Dark Empire, Hand of Thrawn, EVERYTHING Dark Horse, (sorry if I misspelled this) Yuvzhann Vong, and literally everything that’s NOT Disney I consider official canon, which is what I recommend literally EVERYONE else do.

    Or just don’t give a shit about the ALREADY-ESTABLISHED universe that was STUPIDLY tossed out for this rehashed shit, and “just have fun” which I will begrudgingly accept as YOUR OWN OPINION, which you are entitled to just as I am.

    If you don’t like this movie, it doesn’t mean “you’re an asshole”, it just means have standards and enough self-respect as both a SW fan and as a human being to be irritated or annoyed by the SAME FORMULA YOU SAW BEFORE IN A NEW HOPE, just……….. wwwyyyyy dumber, less suspenseful (R.I.P. ESB Dir. Irvin Kershner), and so much, much, much, MUCH MORE predictable. It’s that same wink-and-a-smile thing that Indy #4 / Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had that everyone hated, and might just be ALMOST as annoying here. Are we REALLY going to give up Admiral Thrawn, Mara Jade, and Cade Skywalker for this SOULLESS REHASHED SHIT?!?! Please tell me NO, I’m actually seriously begging here, kind of.

    I should also mention that I thought Kylo Ren was solid throughout the 1st half of the movie. HOWEVER, during the 2nd half and ESPECIALLY during the big climax, he literally became borderline Hayden Christensen levels of whiny and obnoxious!!!!!!

    I also completely agree with Max Landis’ opinion (coming from a hardcore feminist, by the way!) that Rey was a “Mary Sue,” meaning she was an idealized and perfect character to the point of actually being annoying! It didn’t help matters that she was bland as all hell, and Daisy Ridley’s acting felt stiff and outright awkward at times in ways I don’t think were intended. To put the cherry on the bland, uninteresting “chosen one” sundae, a lot of her scenes, emotional and otherwise felt very unnatural and contrived, unlike with Luke in the very 1st Star Wars from ’77, where they came off as an appropriately natural evolution of character and plot.
    Even though I don’t think this is NEARLY worse than Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones (RotS I still haven’t decided though), I still recognize at least George Lucas didn’t rip-off PLOT POINT BY PLOT POINT THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY.

    #HanisthenewBoba/Maul
    If you’re going to kill off one of the coolest characters ever, don’t be pathetic and have the death mean something, or at least don’t have it be the EXACT same scene (see #3 below) from A New Hope! Have him go out in style, Han didn’t deserve that! I was so much more deeply, emotionally affected when Han was frozen in carbonite in The Empire Strikes Back than I was here when he got slaughtered like a stupid-ass p***y!

    !!!!!!!!!!!! So lame— and cheap, and…..—–LAAAAAAMMMMEE!!! “cry” And how the fuck did Poe Dameron make it out of that quicksand alive?!?! If he had ejected out of the TIE Fighter, Finn still should have been able to see him THAT WIDE OPEN DESERT. That’s not a normal plot hole, that’s a SW PREQUEL LEVEL PLOT HOLE.

    1. The map to find Luke in TFA and the Death Star Plans at the beginning of ANH, right down to them being put in a cute little droid, which kick-starts the plot of the movie OF COURSE.

    2. The tentacle monster in the Trash Compactor scene in ANH and another tentacle monster X2 on the Spaceship. Han even makes a reference, in an obnoxiously self-aware moment for the movie, to a “trash compacter” later on.

    3. The Wise Mentor (Obi-Wan / Han) gets killed by the Darth Vader / Kylo Ren character while the heroes look on and scream in horror. Only when Obi-wan got killed he held up his lightsaber and gracefully became one with the force. Poor Han Solo gets gutted just as disturbingly as Floyd Gerdhardt in Fargo, there’s no grace, no dignity, no sense of reason, and I was left not saddened, but sickened and pissed off! Only in Fargo it worked perfectly because it wasn’t ripping off a scene from the 1st season or original movie, and more so because of the kind of brutal story it was. Here, it’s comes off unnecessary and like a perverse, psycho PARODY of the matching scene from the original Star Wars. I rolled my eyes in disgust and annoyance when I was in the theater.

    4. #MazKanataisdiscountYoda Both are wise little green aliens that have been around an insane amount of time that encourage the main character. Yoda is 900-something years old, and I believe Maz is over 1000.

    5. Mos Eisley Catina / Maz’s Pirate and Bounty Hunter Castle where the heroes meet up and get spotted by bad guys.

    You also can tell that Rey is OBVIOUSLY (not the most subtle movie) Kylo Ren’s sister and is Leia’s daughter. “Rey, I am your brother,” look for that line, or something similar to it in Ep. 8. The comment where Kylo Ren mocks Rey for her “father figure” Han Solo? And the way Leia embraces Rey at the end?!?! It’s just like how in Ep. III, “Palpatine’s EVIL?!?! What a twist!”

    Oh, and don’t forget how on the Movie Poster for The Force Awakens, Rey and Kylo Ren’s weapons are parallel to each other. “Visual Storytelling” is what Harrison Ford uses to describe the fight between Rey and Kylo Ren at the climax of the movie. This is Disney & Abrams bastardizing / ripping-off the Jacen (who also became a Sith Lord, BTW) and Jaina Solo characters from the Original Expanded Universe.

    It’s one thing to hint, it’s another thing to give too much evidence away that it doesn’t just spoil the movie you’re watching, but the sequel(s) to the movie!

    Give me a f**king break!

    Vader saying, “Luke, I am your father” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kylo Ren inevitably saying “Rey, I am your brother”

    I’m not even going to acknowledge the existence of “Ben Solo” because of how ridiculously stupid it is. In the EU (Remember, nothing Disney does w/ the franchise is canon after this, even Star Wars Rebels, and I liked the 1st season!) Luke naming his son Ben Skywalker made sense because he knew Obi-wan all those years as “Ben”, so he had that emotional connection. Han Solo never knew Obi-wan the same way Luke did, so him naming HIS son Ben feels less genuine and more like audience-pandering fan service, no matter how little sense it makes.
    I was REALLY, DEEPLY scarred by this movie, by how SOULLESS and LAZY it felt, all it did was make me want to re-watch Mad Max Fury Road, or Creed even.

    Hopefully someone else who hated, or simply had a “meh” reaction to The Force Awakens, will feel good in looking at my comments, and knowing they’re not alone in the universe……….
    As for the Oscars, I wouldn’t complain if it got nominated for Best Visual Effects, but that’s literally it.

    Star Wars has come, gone, and failed IMHO. Bring on The Revenant!

  4. I am actually a HUGE feminist, By the way!

    My review of The Failed Awakening is too long to post here, know that I really wanted to like it, and the REAL fanboy thing to do would have been to love it mindlessly regardless of its actual quality. There was no effort put into this thing, compared to Kingsman where there was a TON of effort put into its story and characters. Mark Hamill had a better cameo in that movie than in TFA!

  5. #HanisthenewBoba/Maul
    If you’re going to kill off one of the coolest characters ever, don’t be pathetic and have the death mean something, or at least don’t have it be the EXACT same scene (see #3 below) from A New Hope! Have him go out in style, Han didn’t deserve that! I was so much more deeply, emotionally affected when Han was frozen in carbonite in The Empire Strikes Back than I was here when he got slaughtered like a stupid-ass p***y!

    !!!!!!!!!!!! So lame— and cheap, and…..—–LAAAAAAMMMMEE!!! “cry” And how the fuck did Poe Dameron make it out of that quicksand alive?!?! If he had ejected out of the TIE Fighter, Finn still should have been able to see him THAT WIDE OPEN DESERT. That’s not a normal plot hole, that’s a SW PREQUEL LEVEL PLOT HOLE.

    1. The map to find Luke in TFA and the Death Star Plans at the beginning of ANH, right down to them being put in a cute little droid, which kick-starts the plot of the movie OF COURSE.

    2. The tentacle monster in the Trash Compactor scene in ANH and another tentacle monster X2 on the Spaceship. Han even makes a reference, in an obnoxiously self-aware moment for the movie, to a “trash compacter” later on.

    3. The Wise Mentor (Obi-Wan / Han) gets killed by the Darth Vader / Kylo Ren character while the heroes look on and scream in horror. Only when Obi-wan got killed he held up his lightsaber and gracefully became one with the force. Poor Han Solo gets gutted just as disturbingly as Floyd Gerdhardt in Fargo, there’s no grace, no dignity, no sense of reason, and I was left not saddened, but sickened and pissed off! Only in Fargo it worked perfectly because it wasn’t ripping off a scene from the 1st season or original movie, and more so because of the kind of brutal story it was. Here, it’s comes off unnecessary and like a perverse, psycho PARODY of the matching scene from the original Star Wars. I rolled my eyes in disgust and annoyance when I was in the theater.

    4. #MazKanataisdiscountYoda Both are wise little green aliens that have been around an insane amount of time that encourage the main character. Yoda is 900-something years old, and I believe Maz is over 1000.

    5. Mos Eisley Catina / Maz’s Pirate and Bounty Hunter Castle where the heroes meet up and get spotted by bad guys.

    You also can tell that Rey is OBVIOUSLY (not the most subtle movie) Kylo Ren’s sister and is Leia’s daughter. “Rey, I am your brother,” look for that line, or something similar to it in Ep. 8. The comment where Kylo Ren mocks Rey for her “father figure” Han Solo? And the way Leia embraces Rey at the end?!?! It’s just like how in Ep. III, “Palpatine’s EVIL?!?! What a twist!”

    Oh, and don’t forget how on the Movie Poster for The Force Awakens, Rey and Kylo Ren’s weapons are parallel to each other. “Visual Storytelling” is what Harrison Ford uses to describe the fight between Rey and Kylo Ren at the climax of the movie. This is Disney & Abrams bastardizing / ripping-off the Jacen (who also became a Sith Lord, BTW) and Jaina Solo characters from the Original Expanded Universe.

    It’s one thing to hint, it’s another thing to give too much evidence away that it doesn’t just spoil the movie you’re watching, but the sequel(s) to the movie!

    Give me a f**king break!

    Vader saying, “Luke, I am your father” >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kylo Ren inevitably saying “Rey, I am your brother”

    I’m not even going to acknowledge the existence of “Ben Solo” because of how ridiculously stupid it is. In the EU (Remember, nothing Disney does w/ the franchise is canon after this, even Star Wars Rebels, and I liked the 1st season!) Luke naming his son Ben Skywalker made sense because he knew Obi-wan all those years as “Ben”, so he had that emotional connection. Han Solo never knew Obi-wan the same way Luke did, so him naming HIS son Ben feels less genuine and more like audience-pandering fan service, no matter how little sense it makes.
    I was REALLY, DEEPLY scarred by this movie, by how SOULLESS and LAZY it felt, all it did was make me want to re-watch Mad Max Fury Road, or Creed even.

    Hopefully someone else who hated, or simply had a “meh” reaction to The Force Awakens, will feel good in looking at my comments, and knowing they’re not alone in the universe……….
    As for the Oscars, I wouldn’t complain if it got nominated for Best Visual Effects, but that’s literally it.

    Star Wars has come, gone, and failed IMHO. Bring on The Revenant!

  6. I’m going to just ignore EVERYTHING Disney does from now on that’s related to Star Wars.

    Dark Empire, Hand of Thrawn, EVERYTHING Dark Horse, (sorry if I misspelled this) Yuvzhann Vong, and literally everything that’s NOT Disney I consider official canon, which is what I recommend literally EVERYONE else do.

    Or just don’t give a shit about the ALREADY-ESTABLISHED universe that was STUPIDLY tossed out for this rehashed shit, and “just have fun” which I will begrudgingly accept as YOUR OWN OPINION, which you are entitled to just as I am.

    If you don’t like this movie, it doesn’t mean “you’re an asshole”, it just means have standards and enough self-respect as both a SW fan and as a human being to be irritated or annoyed by the SAME FORMULA YOU SAW BEFORE IN A NEW HOPE, just……….. dumber, less suspenseful (R.I.P. ESB Dir. Irvin Kershner), and so much, much, much, MUCH MORE predictable. It’s that same wink-and-a-smile thing that Indy #4 / Kingdom of the Crystal Skull had that everyone hated, and might just be ALMOST as annoying here. Are we REALLY going to give up Admiral Thrawn, Mara Jade, and Cade Skywalker for this SOULLESS REHASHED SHIT?!?! Please tell me NO, I’m actually seriously begging here, kind of.

    I should also mention that I thought Kylo Ren was solid throughout the 1st half of the movie. HOWEVER, during the 2nd half and ESPECIALLY during the big climax, he literally became borderline Hayden Christensen levels of whiny and obnoxious!!!!!!

    I also completely agree with Max Landis’ opinion (coming from a hardcore feminist, by the way!) that Rey was a “Mary Sue,” meaning she was an idealized and perfect character to the point of actually being annoying! It didn’t help matters that she was bland as all hell, and Daisy Ridley’s acting felt stiff and outright awkward at times in ways I don’t think were intended. To put the cherry on the bland, uninteresting “chosen one” sundae, a lot of her scenes, emotional and otherwise felt very unnatural and contrived, unlike with Luke in the very 1st Star Wars from ’77, where they came off as an appropriately natural evolution of character and plot.
    Even though I don’t think this is NEARLY worse than Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones (RotS I still haven’t decided though), I still recognize at least George Lucas didn’t rip-off PLOT POINT BY PLOT POINT THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY.

  7. R2-D2 is depressed and shit because Luke is not around, and Gwendoline Christie is utterly WASTED as Captain Phasma, being given what can be effectively called a glorified cameo!
    I would have been fine w/ the new Death Star to be perfectly honest, it’s just that I couldn’t stand how everything felt so insultingly…. by the numbers. It’s just as heartless and a waste of potential as Terminator Genysys IMHO, and that’s saying a ton because I hated Terminator Genysys, yet I hate this Force Awakens shit more, because by this point, you just automatically have higher expectations for the current SW movie than ANY of the past few Terminator movies!!!

    Go easy on me guys PLEASE, but even John Williams score wasn’t that impressive, and if it had been done by another composer, I don’t think I would have noticed. It shockingly makes me glad that Michael Giacchino did the Score for Jurassic World, a much better-directed movie, WITH FLAWS, granted. But doesn’t every movie have flaws? Isn’t that the argument that’s being used to defend TFA, this…… THING?!?!

    I want to cry right now because of how much I HATE this movie the more I think about it, due to my realization that it isn’t a movie at all, it’s a PRODUCT, so desperate to please the fans and prequel-haters (myself being a PROUD Prequel-hater, BTW) that it LOSES IT’S OWN IDENTITY in the process, similar as to how Man of Steel failed when they made it too dark as a result of trying to please the fans that hated Superman Returns.
    I say similar, not exactly however, because as much as I hate and completely despise the shaky-handheld cam mess that was Man of Steel (I’m using Man of Shit as the POSITIVE when talking about the new Star Wars movie, even I can’t believe this is happening) the Snyder film at least didn’t try to copy off its successful predecessors and took a HUGE risk by trying to forge its own unique identity in Superman canon. Sure MoS failed miserably IMO, but at least it deserves serious credit for TRYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

    It’s so traumatizing for me that the franchise that became a phenomenon on delivering us a universe we hadn’t seen ANYTHING like before has become determined to rehash its own story, only worse and more by the numbers than when it previously did it. In other words, if you liked The Amazing Spider Man 1 (I confess I did, UNTIL the shitty 2nd one w/ Jamie Foxx came out “barf”), you’ll probably like this.

  8. Finally, I was able to post it here in parts. You can read them from Top to Bottom:

    This is intended as a wake-up call from a true, diehard Star Wars fan! If you don’t agree that’s fine, but know that this is all my genuine opinion.

    I came into this movie with decent expectations; I just wanted it to be at least decent! A good script, characters, just a nice fun Sci-Fi action/adventure movie was all I asked for. BUT my Worst Fears were realized, they just copied off of the Original Star Wars too much, and I thought Kylo Ren was freaking WEAK, to be honest.

    Before I really go on a self-therapeutic rant against The Force Awakens’ shortcomings, two things I liked:

    1. The 3D was awesome for the first half hour or so, BEFORE the weak script renders it forgettable.

    2. I laughed a lot at the humor in this movie, so after so many EPIC FAILS with the Prequels, it’s nice to see a SW movie that has a good sense of humor, with no poop or fart jokes to be seen. 🙂

    I also laughed a lot at the parts that weren’t meant to be funny and were supposed to be serious, though…..

    Oh, and to some extent John Boyega did pretty good with what he was given overall, in spite of his character talking and behaving nothing like what a soldier who’s been conditioned since childhood would talk and act like. It really bothered me as well how glossed-over his betraying the First Order was, seeing as how he has served these monsters most of his life evidently. If you want a fast-paced movie, then fine. But I’d far prefer it if it wasn’t at the cost of neglecting crucial character development story points like that.

    Now that we’re done with that……………………….. >:O

    If you’ve seen the first Star Wars from ’77, YOU’VE ALREADY seen this movie. I don’t think it’s “Nitpicking” to ask for a franchise to not repeat SO MANY OF THE EXACT SAME PLOT POINTS as your more successful predecessor.

    C’mon we gave J.J. Abrams a hard time over Star Trek: Into Darkness ripping off The Wrath of Khan, but at least that had the whole “parallel universe” thing as an actually kind of clever excuse. Here in The Force Awakens, It is the same story as before, only the same universe.

    How stupid is this First Order, didn’t they remember how the first 2 DEATH STARS DIDN’T WORK?!?!?!?

    And at least TRY to remember that that there is a fine line between “paying homage” and ripping off!
    Heck we gave Return of the Jedi all sorts of shit for doing a second death star, now we have a THIRD ONE (no wait, Starkiller Base, no wait………… It’s the exact same thing!), and everyone is trying to justify it by saying obvious things like “well, every movie has flaws.” “The Originals weren’t perfect.” Although Empire is about as perfect as any movie that has EVER BEEN MADE, not just as a Star Wars Movie IMO.

  9. There seems to be some kind of mass hypnosis, based on massive hype, that Star Wars: The Force Awakens is an Oscar-worthy movie. After seeing it, I have lost faith in the opinions of professional critics, who seem to be following a herd mentality this year with several films, but most notably SW:TFA.
    Don’t get me wrong, it’s a decent popcorn movie, but that’s about it. As many have noted, it is pretty much a remake of Episode IV. The new cast, while likeable and competent, lack charisma, with the notable exception of Oscar Isaac, who seems to be a capable replacement for Han Solo.
    I am, and always have been a Star Wars fan, though not a fanatic. Like many, I feel that the brand started with two excellent films followed by a good film, and then the franchise fell off a cliff. As a fan of J.J. Abrams, I looked forward to Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Perhaps my expectations were too high, but Iknow that many feel the same way I do.

  10. My issue with all of the “Star Wars” bashing over it not being up to standards doesn’t sit well with me when EVERYONE is saying Spotlight yet it has so many glaring sound and editing issues that get in the way of great performances. Spotlight is a well acted, great story, but if we’re getting nitty and gritty about our best pictures than I’d have to say that Spotlight is just happy to be in the conversation, since it is one of those independents that FEELS like and independent.

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