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  • Boidiva02
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    If she wanted to, could Eileen Davidson submit herself for both DOOL and Y&R?   I thought I remembered a rule about having to pick one show or the other? i recall Tamara Braun having to pick between DOOL and AMC when she submitted a few years ago (and won). Was that just a one-time rule or does it still apply or am I just totally off-base here?

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    gdfl
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    ^^ I’m not sure about a rule per se, but I have a feeling ED won’t submit for Days.  There were a couple years on Y&R, I think the year John Abbott died being one of them, where ED had three or four potential submissions, but she opted not to compete.  I think she may have the same mindset for a 12 week stint on Days.

    Also, there have been times where people have submitted and been recognized for short(er) stints, and fans have been outraged.  Examples would be Genie Francis, Vanessa Marcil, and Jeanne Cooper, among many others.  If ED were to submit and be recognized for such a short stint on Days, would we mind?  
     

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    Boidiva02
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    W/Marcil, I was mostly outraged because she beat out other nominees who had far superior years and much better submission, IMHO. 

    and as far as I’m concerned, Genie and Jeanne deserved their wins for longevity alone.

    —But i feel like there was at one point a rule that you HAD to choose between shows, especially if they were both eligible in the same category.   I don’t know if that rule is still around today. 

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    EmmyLoser
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    I don’t know for sure, but my inclination is that you wouldn’t be able to submit for more than once in the same category.  Actresses fairly recently have submitted for two shows in the same year — Debbi Morgan did with AMC and Y&R a few years ago — but those were in different categories, lead for AMC, supporting for Y&R.  

    In theory, I think ED could submit for both shows, but I doubt she would.  It would probably be tough deciding which category goes with which show as well, if she were to do that.  The run on Y&R is open-ended, making it seem more like a lead role, but even in a 12-week stint, it would be impossible to think of Kristen as a supporting character, and I’m sure she’ll be a lead for the time she’s on.  

    It’s probably the case with both Marcil and Francis that some people just didn’t think they deserved to win, and the easiest way of attacking those wins was on the limited screen appearances they made.  The Daytime Emmys have set it up so that supporting is the only category for anyone who isn’t a lead or a younger performer, so while it can be frustrating when someone takes a slot for what’s basically a guest appearance, it’s the only place their work can be recognized.  If ED is sensational and she were to submit and win for the brief stint, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t bother me. 

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    FreemanGriffin
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    I hated Vanessa Marcil’s win and loved Genie Francis’ win…. I was going to mention Debbi Morgan’s two submissions, lead for AMC and support for Y&R a few years ago, so it is possible. I don’t see any reason ED couldn’t submit in the supporting actress category for her 12 week stint as Kristen for this year…

    Amelia Heinle’s recent win was a case of being in the wrong category, considering Victoria is a lead on Y&R, has a ton of storylines, and was on a majority of episodes during 2013 – same with this year. I think there should be a formula for honestly placing actors and actresses in the right category, based on how many episodes they are on, whether they have had lead storylines, etc. A committee could decide, which is the way it is done with the Tony awards….

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    EmmyLoser
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    A committee would be good, though I’m sure we’d still disagree with a good amount of the placements.  The Amelia Heinle example is interesting.  I didn’t watch much Y&R last year, and feel like I didn’t hear much about Victoria being in storylines.  Then in her reel, Victoria is clearly a supporting character to Billy and even Chloe, so it probably felt like the right placement to a lot of voters.

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    gdfl
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    ^^  I agree about Victoria and would also emphasize that even Chloe was a Supporting character because that whole arc was all about Billy and Adam.  Similarly, on GH, the Josslyn’s kidney arc was all about Jason and Carly while Elizabeth was Supporting; Laura Wright was nominated for Lead and Rebecca Herbst for Supporting.
    Now while I wouldn’t mind Heinle trying Lead based on screen time alone, I have always felt like her character is either a side player in a main story or driving a side story, so justifiably Supporting either way.  

    As an aside, I will defend Vanessa Marcil’s Emmy win to the death.  Using the two reel system, she showed all kinds of range with one heartfelt reel and one comedy reel.  Cady McClain didn’t have that range because she submitted two similar reels, and she submitted better the following year and deservedly triumphed.  Robin Christopher didn’t submit her best work (the year she lost to Marcil).  Her submissions were better two years later when she was snubbed in favor of the trainwreck that was Natalia Livingston.
    I would actually suggest that the problem may not be that people don’t think Marcil is deserving of the Emmy, but that she is not deserving of the love from TPTB.  Therefore, IMO people (unfairly) resent her for the fact that TPTB prop her and her character at the expense of other actors and characters.  I think because people feel like she is overrated by TPTB, she is overly criticized for other things.
     

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    FreemanGriffin
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    I just don’t believe that Vanessa Marcil is all that good of an actress, that’s all…. I would have cast my vote for Linda Dano for One Life To Live (:

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    Jessica
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    There may be a rule about the same category but I do remember Debbi Morgan submitting for Lead for AMC and Supporting for Y&R.

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    Boidiva02
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    I just don’t believe that Vanessa Marcil is all that good of an actress, that’s all…. I would have cast my vote for Linda Dano for One Life To Live (:

    I was torn between Robin Christopher and Rebecca Budig that year. But really, all the nominees were fantastic. I remember Cady McClain had a ton of buzz going into nominations; especially around Goldderby.    

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