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  • Tom O’Neil
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    After you watch the episodes submitted, please post your thoughts on these two races here in this thread

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    Jw79bull
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    Melissa Claire Egan — Its a good tape. Howver she show lil range and impact..

    Arianne Zucker — 1) she’s a lead actress 2) this is a good episode, not just a good reel for her, too much tears..no range..its just crying for 10 mins 

    Jessica Collins — ok people on Y&R needs to stop sumbitting tapes with Michelle Stanford in them,  cause she steals the episdoe..lol. She does nothing special in the tape. a bunch of tears, which she is not good at pulling off..she is dead last…zzzz

    Julie Marie Berman — why is General Hospital tapes so poorly edited. but besides that, Julie gives an amazing performce. she more than hold her own with Tony Geary. She shows range, and impact, and plenty of screen time.. I can see her winng Emmy #3 

    Katherine Kelly Lang — She gives a controlled, subtle performance..a little too subtle..there’s no fireworks, or any impact in her tape. However its a beatifully written two person play.  

    Well I think Kathrine SHOULD win, but look out for Julie, cause she has a good tape! 

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    Jw79bull
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    Good God, These reels BORED me AGAIN!!

    I dont watch B&B but from what i’ve heard Scott Clifton was a lead all year, so i was expecting a good tape..WRONG..he was just OK..

    Billy Miller does nothing in his. He wont win. This is a Peter Bergman episode.

    Jeff Branson is good for the last 3 mins, i doubt that he will win for that. 

    So im going with Bradford Anderson. His tape was good, and for once he’s not doing that Spinalli stutter thing, well not stutter, but the character does talk funny..But,He was good in his tape. So Anderson for the  win

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    Boidiva02
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    Okay, I just watched the Supporting Actress races…

    Here are my thoughts, fresh from viewing them.

    Overall, there are two actresses whose reels stand above the others, IMHO.   Katherine Kelly Lang and Julie Marie Berman.  They both stand out for very different reasons… Berman proves to be a dynamic actress in her tape, a shockingly restrained performance of Lulu admitting to her father she may have a drinking problem.   She plays exceptionally well off of Anthony Geary as Luke, which isn’t always displayed on-screen on a daily basis.    The scenes were rich, dramatic and powerful without being overdone.  The lighting was dark and adequately moody.   Overall, a very strong, very effective tape.

    Katherine Kelly Lang gives a performance equally powerful, but on a smaller scale. She is more quiet, more subtle. It is a two-person scene between Lang’s Brooke and Susan Flannery’s Stephanie, as Stephanie lives her last moments on earth.    Stephanie is about to die and says to Brooke her last words, promises Brooke a ring that was Stephanies and Brooke apologizes for the years of pain and torment she causes Stephanie.    The last scene of the clip, Brooke sings to Stephanie and Steph takes her last breath.    KKL is breathtaking in this reel.  But, I think ultimately, the performance may read as too small, too restrained for Emmy voters, which is why, I believe she is second to Julie Marie Berman.

    The remaining ladies, Melissa Claire Eagan, Arianne Zucker, Jessica Collins give less than nuanced performances, and have tapes with serious issues on them:

    Eagan’s tape, is really not engaging at all.   Chelsea is confronting her husband, Adam about the circumstances that led to his inviting Sharon, an arsonist to live in their home, and the circumstances of the relationship between Sharon and Adam. She has a natural chemistry with Michael Muhney, but the tape overall is boring and not that interesting.   I was actually glad when it was over because I felt like other tapes would be more interesting.

    Jessica Collins gives what I consider to be a very natural performance.  She was convincing in her role, and did the best job she could at playing this scene. In the reel, Avery is shocked to learn that her dying father has confessed to being a criminal who stole some sort of money from people.    She has a difficult time coping with the fact that her father is not who he claimed to be.    She acts opposite Michelle Stafford, who plays her sister, and does a good job of keeping up with this dynamic actress.    She gives what she needs to, tears, pain, terror, everything.     I know this will be a divisive statement, but I thought her performance was excellent. 

    Lastly, we have Arianne Zucker, who as Nicole is being confronted by Daniel (I assume her boyfriend) about having lied about the way her unborn child has died.  Apparently she claimed that some lady named Jennifer pushed her, when in reality it died of something called a placenta abruption (seperation from the uterus).   In otherwords, it died of natural causes.   The problem with this tape is that though the writing would seemingly allow Zucker to go any number of places with this scene, she chose instead to just scream, yell, cry and over do it.   There are a number of other people in the room too, all who pull focus at times.   Frankly, not a very good reel.

    My rankings:

    1. Julie Marie Berman, General Hospital
    2. Katherine Kelly Lang, Bold & Beautiful
    3. Jessica Collins, Young & Restless
    4. Melissa Claire Eagan, Young & Restless
    5. Arianne Zucker, Days of Our Lives

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    Boidiva02
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    Okay, Just finished watching Supporting Actor…

    Here are my thoughts.

    Overall, of the reels I’ve watched thus far, Supporting Actor has the strongest tapes.  I was impressed for the most part by all of the submission. BUT, I feel like there is one clear winner here and that is Bradford Anderson.   For one, his reel was the simplest, easiest to understand, he was heartbroken after being betrayed by somebody he loves; who doesn’t value him enough.  A universal subject matter, with strong writing, and a lot of range.   He shows anger, hurt, saddness and ultimately, confusion over what the right thing to do is.   It was a really strong, really well-balanced tape.  I found myself really engaged. Very strong.

    Next up, I’d say that a solid second is Jeff Branson on Y&R.  They say the mark of a great actor is the ability to play drunk and not look stupid, well in this submission, he has a scene where he does that, and does it well.   His character, Ronan has just had a date with Phyliss go wrong, and instead of leting it go, he storms back to her house and drunkedly insists on a second date.   Right then and there, when she refuses it goes deep with him admitting that he wants to get to know her, and wants to be part of her life. He admits he’s never reached out before and that she makes him want to reach out. She refuses because she is apparently still hung up on her soon to be ex, Nick.   He does a good job acting w/Michelle Stafford, though they have little chemistry together.   

    Scott Clifton, gives a great performance on his reel.   Liam has somehow betrayed his wife to be by spending the night before their wedding with some girl named Steffy, it’s made clear no sex was involved, but somehow this was the ultimate betrayl that pushed his bride to decide not to marry him.   This part of the tape where he begs for her forgivness and is rejected is boring and not that interesting.  The second half of the tape, where Liam is confronted by his father, Bill about what caused him to act this way (like a fool) is vastly more engaging.    Clifton shows a lot of rage, hurt and humilation, some of it directed inward, but a lot directed at his father, Bill, played by Don Diamont.    He has natural chemistry with DIamont.    He blames his father for all the issues in his life that caused him to act this way. Bill is not sympathetic and implores his son that this girl that makes him beg isn’t good enough for him.   He wants his son to act like a Spencer man and take what he wants, not beg.    A strong tape with strong acting. I could see this winning an Emmy.  My problem with this, it still feels a bit like a Younger Actor tape.  This doesn’t play like a Supporting Reel. It seems a bit too juveiniel in my opinion.

    Billy Miller’s tape for the most part leaves no impression on me. Half of it involves the same scenes in Peter Bergmen’s Lead Acto reel, with Jack confronting his brother over a business issue.  The other half honestly was so uninteresting I don’t even remember what it was about.   The truth is, Miller is a good actor, but this reel wasn’t a great showcase and leaves little to admire.  I don’t really consider him a factor in this race at all right now.  

    I’m torn over the placement, but for now, here are my official rankings:

    1. Bradford Anderson, General Hospital
    2. Jeff Branson, Young & Restless
    3. Scott Clifton, Bold & Beautiful
    4. Billy Miller, Young & Restless

    The reason I say I’m torn is that I am somewhat tempted to switch the placements of Branson and Clifton.    The only reason I have it ranked this way is that Clifton’s entire reel comes across as being too youthful for any voters to relate too.

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    The BC 2.0
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    Supporting Actor, I think that Daytime’s favorite nerd will win.  Clifton’s reel was lengthy (at 13 minutes, the longest of any of the Supporting Actor reels), but not as powerful as Anderson’s.

    I’m watching the Supporting Actress clips, and am liking JMB’s reel.

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    Daniel Montgomery
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    Reposted from the other thread:

    SUPPORTING ACTOR

    I’d already checked out three of the supporting actor episodes from clips on YouTube, but I was kinda hoping there was something missing from those YouTube clips, because I didn’t see a clear winner in any of them.

    Scott Clifton was the only one of these nominees I hadn’t seen, and I’d give him a very slight edge to win. He has the longest reel, a good range of emotions — pleading and embarrassment with Hope (everytime I see Kim Matula she’s acting circles around J.M. Wood, so not sure why the latter keeps getting nominated over her), and then the shame of being dressed down by his father. The main problem is that in the second half, he yields the floor too much to Don Diamont, and while Clifton does have a few strong lines and emotional moments there, if he had gotten more of the dialogue in that scene he might be a solid lock.

    Watched Bradford Anderson’s again. Good emoting makes up for some awkward writing. Not sure if that helps him (doing his best with weak material) or hurts him (not able to do his best because of weak material). The Spinelli-ese works when he’s fast-talking and funny, but when trying to be emotional that style of language feels forced. He could still win though, because his competitors are vulnerable.

    Billy Miller’s episode was better than I remembered. He’s the most natural actor of the bunch, and his blow-up with Jack in the first scene is probably the best moment in any of the nominated reels. But after the first confrontation with Jack the episode goes slack and he doesn’t have much to play, other than mildly concerned brother. Still, it’s potentially winnable.

    Jeff Brason is clearly the weakest of the bunch. The date with Phyllis isn’t especially compelling, and the confrontation with Adam is even less so. His following drunk scene with Phyllis isn’t bad, but it doesn’t measure up to the strongest moments in the other three reels.

    1. Scott Clifton
    2. Bradford Anderson
    3. Billy Miller
    4. Jeff Branson

    I’d say the top three are thisclose. Won’t be surprised if any of those three wins.

    SUPPORTING ACTRESS

    Hmmm, Supporting Actress is a tough one. I don’t think there’s a single one of them who I could say is totally out of it. A lot of tears, and mostly they’re good tears, so how to decisively pick a winner?

    I think I’m still gonna have to call Julie Berman a slight favorite here. Not only does she have the tears, but she has a good amount of range, a nice consistent story arc, and writing and direction that let the emotion build steadily to a satisfying payoff. Worrying she’s an alcoholic, then lashing out at her dad, then crying about not being able to appreciate her husband’s love, and then reconciling with her father — a good, well-rounded performance.

    Katherine Kelly Lang is also good, has the benefit of simplicity; many Emmy reels end up cluttered with plot, though maybe it’s just me that finds that annoying to sit through in a performance showcase. This is just two women coming to terms with their complicated relationship as one is dying. And it builds to the biggest emotional payoff in this category. Another possible winner.

    I had never seen Jessica Collins on “Y&R,” so I was surprised that she was actually petty damn good. A nice long reel that lets her come to a reckoning with her dad and be penitent with her sister. (Is it just me or is Michelle Stafford in just about every “Y&R” reel this year?) One problem: Collins often covers her face with her hands during some emotional moments, which looks like an attempt to cover a lack of expression in her face, though when her face is uncovered, I think she expresses just fine.

    Arianne Zucker sure knows how to cry. She’s damn good at it, but that’s pretty much all she does in this reel for 10 minutes. Wall-to-wall crying. That lack of range might hurt her against other reels with comparable impact but greater range. This, however, is a different episode than the one I watched on YouTube where she finds out her baby has died.

    Melissa Claire Egan is also a different episode than I watched on YouTube (I think this one is better). This is her finding out that Sharon, whom Adam is harboring, burned down the Newman Ranch. Her righteous indignation might pull some votes from people who tire of the buckets of tears in the rest of this category. Still, for me this one lacked the significant emotional wallop of the others. I oiginally had this ranked below Zucker’s when I watched them, but the overwhelming distaste I’m seeing for Zucker’s cry-a-thon has convinced me to switch their places.

    1. Julie Berman
    2. Katherine Kelly Lang
    3. Jessica Collins
    4. Melissa Egan
    5. Arianne Zucker

    That’s how I’m ranking it now, but I might switch those around before Emmy night. Nevertheless, I think almost all of these women would beat the Supporting Actor lineup.

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    Boidiva02
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    I find it so interesting (in a good way) how we can all watch these tapes and come out with totally different ideas about who should win.   I actually thought Bradford Anderson’s performance felt the most natural and the language really didn’t seem bothersome to me in this reel.     Actually, I didn’t notice any forced language at all, it felt normal to me.      I think his tape was the best and I thought Billy Miller’s tape was the weakest by far.    I rather liked Jeff Branson’s tape, I thought it gave him a nice range to play.

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    eastwest
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    SUPPORTING ACTOR ANALYSIS
    This is a solid lineup, but it could’ve easily been rounded to five (poor James Reynolds and Greg Vaughan!). I enjoyed Jeff Branson’s reel. The awkward first date and the drunk scene made were strong ones, but the scene with Ronan in cop mode with Adam felt unnescessary and stalled the momentum of a good showcase. Billy Miller is an actor who has that IT factor that commands the viewers attention. He and Peter Bergman play off each other so well and you believe them as siblings and the striff presented in the reel. I enjoyed Scott Clifton’s reel immensely. I particularly loved the direction in the first half of his two parter. Very Shakespearean esque. This reel would win him a second Younger Actor Emmy, but I don’t think it could give him his first Supporting one. It comes off as slight against the competition and that is no slight on him as an actor. It stands out for sure, but I don’t think in a beneficial way. I feel that this is Bradford Anderson’s time. With his previous nominations, he always had reels that would win in any other year. Given that he submitted another strong reel and his competition are previous winners, this is his to lose.

    RANKINGS
    1. Bradford Anderson (Spinelli, GH)
    2. Scott Clifton (Liam, B&B)
    3. Billy Miller (Billy, Y&R)
    4. Jeff Branson (ex-Ronan, Y&R) 

    SUPPORTING ACTRESS ANALYSIS
    Easily the best lineup in all of the acting categories this year. Melissa Claire Egan submitted one of her many “Scenes from a Marriages” scenes and while she and Michael Muhney are great in them, it makes for a diverse mix of perfomaces/material nominated in the field as opposed to being competitive if that makes sense. I really was impressed with Jessica Collins. With powerhouses like Ken Howard and Michelle Stafford, you have to bring it and she did that. I was hot/cold on the material, but she was good. I absolutely HATED the Nicole/Daniel/Jennifer storyline. It was a bootlegged version of the Annie/Josh/Reva storyline on GL years ago. But with that said, Arianne Zucker always does WERK on DAYS and that was the in this reel. Yeah, it is tears-o-plenty, but I think it is valid given the material (a desperate woman’s lies finally exposed). Katherine Kelly Lang’s nomination is still something that still seems unreal, but it happned and that is fantastic. The beautiful Stephanie death scenes could do the trick for her in any other year, especially the factors she has going for her. But it is Julie Marie Berman who SHUTS IT DOWN in this category and will win Emmy #3. The reel is breathtaking! I knew this was a winner when the (pre)pre-nom scenes were revelaed. It’s Emmy bait without being blatant.

    RANKINGS
    1. Julie Marie Berman (ex-Lulu, GH)
    2. Katherine Kelly Lang (Brooke, B&B)
    3. Arianne Zucker (Nicole, DAYS)
    4. Jessica Collins (Avery, Y&R)
    5. Melissa Claire Egan (Chelsea, Y&R) 

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    Julie Berman: I don’t get it. I know I should be riveted by her material, but it left me cold. The beginning was ruined by Anthony Geary and the many edits. Geary doesn’t get going until the four minute mark, and by that point, it was too late. The tape has her going through many different emotions, and she will probably win, but I wouldn’t choose her because something in her performance was missing. 

    Jessica Collins: She has similar material to Berman. She’s also confronting her father who has lied to her. Collins felt more real. There was an authenticity to her peformance that was missing from Berman’s. Her reel has problems though. Some of the dialogue is cringe worthy, and too much time is spent on Stafford who isn’t very good here. 

    Melissa Claire Egan: This reel felt endless. It’s the same thing over and over. Accusations and screaming, and then the last two minutes are nothing. The focus shifts from her to Muhney and later Touissant at the point. Egan is fine as far as it goes, but it’s not something I’d even nominate. 

    Arianne Zucker: I wanted this to be so good, but why did she choose it? This would be a Shawn Christian reel if he somehow got nominated for an acting award. She cries for seven straight minutes. There is 1.5 minutes at the 7 minute mark where she gets it together and delivers a strong performance, but then she resorts back to the simpering mimi act. As an aside, Melissa Reeves looked horrible. She must have angered a lighting guy.

    Katherine Kelly Lang: Another character confronting a parental figure. Gorgeous acting here. Strong and subtle. When she cries, it means something. It’s not a predictable choice and it’s moving. No one else comes close in this category.

    Rankings:
    1. Katherine Kelly Lang
    2. Jessica Collins
    3. Melissa Claire Egan (3 and 4 are pretty interchangeable, but Egan’s reel annoyed me less than Berman’s)
    4. Julie Marie Berman
    5.Arianne Zucker (can’t believe how awful her reel is) 

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    Paul Vargo
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    I wonder is Zucker summited the wrong date, because I swear I read a interview with her talking about anyone told her to summit the sucided attempt episode.

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    I wonder is Zucker summited the wrong date, because I swear I read a interview with her talking about anyone told her to summit the sucided attempt episode.

    She switched tapes for the second round. Shawn Christian suggested she go for the episode that’s on HLN’s website. I guess we now know who to blame for her going for this tape that everyone seems to hate.

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    I’m continuing to work my way through the reels, and hit the supporting
    categories last night.  I’ll try to be brief and not repeat most of
    what’s been said:

    SUPPORTING ACTOR

    I’m having a hard time
    seeing the appeal of Jeff Branson’s submission.  But then, I judged
    supporting actor the year he won, and I didn’t get it then either. 
    Towards the end he gives something, but I’m still surprised he got a
    nomination with this.  (Also, this was my least favorite of the Michelle
    Stafford performances I’ve seen on Y&R reels so far this year.) 
    Billy Miller is fine, and I felt a good amount of sympathy for him, but
    there’s not a whole lot of meat here either.  Scott Clifton surprised
    me, because after the first minute or two I thought I would hate the
    reel, but I found him very compelling in the second half.  It’s hard to
    feel anything for the Hope/Liam/Steffy storyline, but Liam’s
    conversation with his father felt like something real and something to
    care about.  Clifton did a great job there, but he’s mostly reacting to
    Bill’s vitriol.  I still think he’s outdone by Bradford Anderson, who
    totally manifests the full history between Maxie and Spinelli in his
    performance as he unleashes years of frustration on her.  This was
    probably my favorite of all the reels I’ve seen so far, and I’m not even
    a big Spinelli fan.  The writing of the scenes really worked, and he
    delivered.  I could see Scott Clifton taking it, but I think Anderson is
    the more likely and more deserving winner.

    (As a sidenote, let
    me also say that I liked Kim Matula more in Clifton’s reel than I liked
    any of the younger actresses who were nominated in their own.)

    1. Bradford Anderson
    2. Scott Clifton
    3. Billy Miller
    4. Jeff Branson

    SUPPORTING ACTRESS

    I
    generally think of supporting actress as a category that should be
    filled with fireworks, but overall these were just sparklers.  Melissa
    Claire Egan’s reel is pretty forgettable, and it was disappointing that
    Chelsea’s reaction never went beyond just being upset about the
    situation itself, that it led to no larger discussion of problems with
    Adam or their relationship.  Jessica Collins is pretty good in her reel,
    but the emotion just felt kind of flat to me.  It’s hard for me to
    really feel for Avery when she sounds ridiculously naive for parts of
    the episode.  (The line where she suddenly questions everyone she’s
    defended and how many guilty people she’s set free could have worked,
    but it didn’t here.)  There’s also Michelle Stafford pulling focus from
    her at every turn, and the revelation that Avery had gotten Crazy Daisy
    out of jail just made her seem very disingenuous.  Katherine Kelly Lang
    does a great job in her reel.  It is mostly very subtle, but the last
    few minutes really pack a punch.  The sorrow feels so genuine and
    visceral.  I also give KKL a lot of credit for selling the material,
    which I know a lot of B&B fans loved but for casual viewers like me
    who know some of the history of these two feels a little hard to
    swallow.  I think a lot of people are underestimating Arianne Zucker’s
    reel.  Yes, it’s a lot of crying, but there’s a lot going on there.  In
    addition to the pain of losing a second child (I thought the scene where
    she talks about losing the first baby was the strongest), she’s
    desperate about losing Daniel and being caught in her lies, and she’s
    still playing the villain to a room full of people and playing the
    sympathy card as hard as she possibly can.  Zucker works all that in
    perfectly.  But the reel is also a little confusing in that people are
    walking in constantly and no one ever explains who anyone is, though it
    doesn’t matter so much.  Julie Marie Berman’s reel has the strongest
    sense of character, and the best Emmy checklist.  There’s a decent
    amount of range; it’s intense but never over the top; there’s an
    Emmy-favored veteran featured but she’s not outdone by him.  JMB does a
    good job at all of it, but I still kind of felt like I wanted more.  JMB
    seems like the smart choice on paper, but I wouldn’t count out Zucker
    or KKL, the two who really do something that makes you say, “Okay, I
    could give that an Emmy.”  I also can’t help feeling, though, like this
    reel won’t do it for KKL, given her history with Emmys.  I’ve got JMB
    ahead by a hair.

    1. Julie Marie Berman
    2. Arianne Zucker
    3. Katherine Kelly Lang
    4. Jessica Collins
    5. Melissa Claire Egan

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    Jw79bull
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    i think that JMB will win, but I liked Melissa Claire Egan tape…and since everyone on here don’t like it, watch when she’ll win this weekend.. 

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    Supporting Actress

    All have decent submissions.  Berman’s stood out as the best for me though it was hard for me as a regular viewer to put aside the non-story of Lulu’s “drinking” problem especially since they seemed to have forgotten all about it now.  Obviously, most voters are not going to know that and I think Berman’s tape showed a lot of range that will work in her favor.  I also had to put aside my feelings about Lang being in the category when she is the LEAD on that show, but she had a good submission and has been over looked several times in the past when she did submitt in lead.  I liked both Egan and Zucker’s submissions though I can see the issue others brought up with not being enough range.  I agree with someone else that Stafford again stole the submission from Collins plus I cannot stand a grown woman using “mommy” and “daddy” when addressing her parents.

    1.  Julie Marie Berman
    2.  Melissa Claire Egan
    3. Katherine Kelly Lang
    4. Arianne Zucker
    5.  Jessica Collins 

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