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  • Scoopster
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    And the casting news engine continues to fire on all cylinders this week as Serial Scoop again is breaking some big casting news at DAYS.  SS is confirming that Guy Wilson (Will) has been let go by DAYS and will likely not be airing for too much longer as it appears the actor finished taping a few months back.

    Don’t expect a happy ending for Will though, in what is kind of a shocking move by the show, Will is going to be one of the victims of the serial killer.  Is this the last time we will see Will alive?  There are BTS rumblings that DAYS may be bringing Chandler Massey back in the role, but that is all unconfirmed rumors at this point.  Expect a final airdate sometime in October for Wilson.

    Guy Wilson is the 9th confirmed exit since Josh Griffith and Dena Higley took over headwriting duties.  Kassie DePaiva (Eve), Shawn Christian (Daniel), Daniel Cosgrove (Aiden), Freddie Smith (Sonny), True O’Brien (Paige), Paul Telfer (Xander), Melissa Archer (Serena) & James Read (Clyde) have all been previously confirmed out.

    Don’t expect Guy Wilson to be the last exit…several more big exits (and returns) are coming.

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    Laura Racine
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    Killing off Will is a bad move imo.  I get that Guy Wilson needs to go but there are a lot of other ways they could’ve written the character out than killing him off. Will is a Brady and a Horton and a character that people have seen grow up on screen.   I know that there have been rumors about the return of Chandler but they seem to be be more fans’ wishful thinking than anything else.

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    EmmyLoser
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    Guy Wilson really hasn’t been working in the role, maybe he never did, so his departure is not surprising.  But it seems like a ridiculous move to kill the character given all the ties to family he has.  He’s a core character about four times over.  I’m not really going to believe that part until I see it.  Based on Corday’s whole thing about anyone who dies past September being actually dead dead, not fake soap opera dead, I can’t see that Will being murdered by the serial killer paves the way for him to return as Will.  He could return as another character, but what a losing situation that would be for the show.  It would lose an important character and the actor who won three Emmys for playing the role would be playing someone else.  

    I also feel like it’s too gratuitous for the serial killer to only be targeting characters/actors who are perceived as unpopular with the audience.  If both Will and Daniel fall victim to the serial killer along with Paige and Serena, the whole thing starts to feel pretty cheap.  Not that I want the killer to murder characters I like (or in my case, even more characters I like), but how many murders can be plotted just for the sake of convenience?

    Anyway, as annoying as Guy Wilson’s Will has been, I still don’t really even want the character off screen, and certainly not murdered.  Another thought that just occurred to me: getting rid of Will makes the prospect of SORASing Johnny, Ally and Sidney a lot more reasonable without them suddenly being the same age as their much older brother. 

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    alokin
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    It does seem like it’s more the wishful thinking of fans that’s fueling those Chandler Massey return rumors, nothing more. I don’t think the actor expressed any interest in returning to the role, has he? If he were, DAYS surely wouldn’t be getting rid of Will. And with Guy Wilson simply not catching on with fans following in the footsteps of Massey, it could be that the show just wants to cut its losses and put its primary focus on other core characters, which is fine by me. This could actually work very well, considering Griffith is at the helm as co-headwriter. Let’s not forget that he penned one of Y&R’s greatest plot twists and very best storylines in recent memory, Delia’s death, resulting in unforgettable performances across the board. Who knows, maybe Will’s death could bode just as well for DAYS?

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    EmmyLoser
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    Ugh, I hated Delia death on Y&R.  Stunts like that do usually produce good drama and great performances in the shorter term, but in the longer term they detract from the canvas of the show.  In the case of Will, I think that would be even more true than it usually is.  Sorry, alokin, I know you were just trying to make a positive point, but it made me even more against the idea of Will being killed than I was before.  I’m all for the show writing Will out for a while, maybe even a long while, and focusing on the nostalgia couples for now.  But in the end, the more connected characters that a show has waiting in the wings in case they need them, the better.  It’s usually better if they don’t have to resurrect them in some inprobable fashion or create a similar character with no connections to the rest of the characters or history with the show.

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    I’d hardly call Delia’s death a “stunt”. A stunt would have to imply that it was a rather uncreative ploy used simply for the purpose of providing short-term shock value, and having little to no lasting effect of value on the long-term landscape of the canvas. The fact that Delia’s death was a shocking twist which came exactly at a time when viewers were least expecting it was one reason why it worked, but what made it brilliant was that it was executed flawlessly from a writing and directorial aspect both in the immediate sense (which included showcasing some of the acting ensemble’s finest work to date and earning Billy Miller, Amelia Heinle and the show highly deserving Emmy trophies) and as a catalyst that would end up driving major story for months. In that sense, it couldn’t have detracted from the canvas because it was an integral part of the canvas for an extended length of time. Cut to the present, nearly two years later, and the rippling effects of Delia’s death are still being felt. If Gabriel were to reveal himself to the public as Adam, he’d have to serve jail time for Delia’s hit-and-run, turning Chelsea and son Connor’s worlds and their newly-established family upside down. A firestorm in the business worlds of both Newman Enterprises and Jabot would be reignited, and another great riff between the Newman and Abbott families would ensue. Sage’s lies to cover up Gabriel’s would be exposed and her and Nick’s relationship would be placed in jeopardy, including the life of their unborn child, and their plans in establishing a permanent family. And Billy and Victoria are just now finding their way back to one another after having drifted apart for so long. I could go on. My point is, Delia’s death forever changed the landscape of the show and the history of its characters as we know it today.

    I realize there is a lot of residual resentment among the many DAYS fans here (of which I myself am one) towards Y&R for having “stolen” the Best Drama Series Emmy trophy in 2014 from what many believed belonged strictly to DAYS for its stellar 2013 year, and this may not be the popular opinion, but I firmly believe Y&R wholeheartedly deserved to win for what I consider to be an equally stellar run. I just wish this year’s tie for Best Drama Series between Y&R and DAYS had happened in 2014 to correctly match the years that both shows achieved such individual greatness. It’s just not right that Y&R’s name should have to be forever tarnished as having an unfair win under its belt when voters should’ve collectively exercised better judgment by awarding both shows.

     

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    I’d hardly call Delia’s death a “stunt”. A stunt would have to imply that it was a rather uncreative ploy used simply for the purpose of providing short-term shock value, and having little to no lasting effect of value on the long-term landscape of the canvas. The fact that Delia’s death was a shocking twist which came exactly at a time when viewers were least expecting it was one reason why it worked, but what made it brilliant was that it was executed flawlessly from a writing and directorial aspect both in the immediate sense (which included showcasing some of the acting ensemble’s finest work to date and earning Billy Miller, Amelia Heinle and the show highly deserving Emmy trophies) and as a catalyst that would end up driving major story for months. In that sense, it couldn’t have detracted from the canvas because it was an integral part of the canvas for an extended length of time. Cut to the present, nearly two years later, and the rippling effects of Delia’s death are still being felt. If Gabriel were to reveal himself to the public as Adam, he’d have to serve jail time for Delia’s hit-and-run, turning Chelsea and son Connor’s worlds and their newly-established family upside down. A firestorm in the business worlds of both Newman Enterprises and Jabot would be reignited, and another great riff between the Newman and Abbott families would ensue. Sage’s lies to cover up Gabriel’s would be exposed and her and Nick’s relationship would be placed in jeopardy, including the life of their unborn child, and their plans in establishing a permanent family. And Billy and Victoria are just now finding their way back to one another after having drifted apart for so long. I could go on. My point is, Delia’s death forever changed the landscape of the show and the history of its characters as we know it today.

    I realize there is a lot of residual resentment among the many DAYS fans here (of which I myself am one) towards Y&R for having “stolen” the Best Drama Series Emmy trophy in 2014 from what many believed belonged strictly to DAYS for its stellar 2013 year, and this may not be the popular opinion, but I firmly believe Y&R wholeheartedly deserved to win for what I consider to be an equally stellar run. I just wish this year’s tie for Best Drama Series between Y&R and DAYS had happened in 2014 to correctly match the years that both shows achieved such individual greatness. It’s just not right that Y&R’s name should have to be forever tarnished as having an unfair win under its belt when voters should’ve collectively exercised better judgment by awarding both shows.

    alokin, I agree with you almost completely on this issue.  I think where the debate about it being a “stunt” originates though is because Delia’s death was a surprise.  Some (including me) see that as a plot twist, but I can understand why others might call it a stunt because Delia was not really an established character, so it seemed like they were trying to knockoff the death of Cassie (or, via JFP, Jake’s death on GH).
    But what really got me about your post was the last sentence.  I have always found it so interesting that we blame shows or actors for undeserved nominations or wins (by saying things like “Natalia Livingston has Robin Christopher’s Emmy!” or all the hate Heather Tom got for her consecutive wins) when really it has nothing to do with the subject but rather about the people who voted for that outcome. 

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    youngsoapfan
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    If Will does die, I can definitely see some emmy worthy work coming from Deidre Hall, and there are supposed to be appearances from Alison Sweeney, and what better reason for her to return home, than that of her son dying? I too wish for Chandler Massey back, as opposed to killing off the character, but new writing changes always bring good things ( like finally getting rid of Daniel ) to bad things, ( like getting rid of will )

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    Regarding Delia’s death, initially, I had the same response as EmmyLoser, that it was a stunt. I think this is in part because of the way Y&R handled the heart transplant story after Colleen’s death. It was very much a ratings stunt. One of my family members had a heart transplant, and I was outraged by the shoddy storytelling by Y&R. Alokin, however, makes a great case in that the story of Delia’s death resulted in outstanding performances and complex storyline ramifications. The problem I had is that it was a story I simply did not want to see. Children dying… it’s just too much for me. The show became so dark and depressing. I found this particularly problematic because Billy and Victoria rose to popularity due to their chemistry and their talent for playing romantic comedy. I loved it when they referenced the old sitcoms; I wanted their house to be fun and chaotic and overrun with children and drama and comedy. Instead, we saw Reed go off to DC to live with his father, Lucy returned to her biological father, and Delia killed in a hit-and-run. If I were writing Y&R, I would have capitalized on the natural comedic chemistry of the couple and made them the fun couple that everyone loved watching with the fun house that everyone wished they lived in. So while I acknowledge that there was payoff, it was not enough payoff for me. In fact, the only soap story about a child dying that has ever had enough payoff for me was BJ’s heart on GH; that was simply an amazing, breathtaking story that has never been matched.

    So, bringing this back to the character of Will, I agree that killing the character is a mistake, regardless of the performances it may elicit (and I will be the first to commend them when it happens). He is just too important a character. And while it’s true that he is no longer a child, he is a rather young character that viewers have watched grow up for many years. I don’t have an issue with Guy Wilson, but I know that viewers in general have had a difficult time accepting him in the role after Massey’s Emmy-winning turn. The TPTB should have just written out the character and left the door open for the future. Of course, no one ever seems to stay dead on soaps, so who knows?

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    alokin, you make some very good points.  When I referred to Delia’s death as a stunt, I didn’t mean to imply that it hasn’t had lasting effects on the show.  I think of it as a stunt because it was something meant to shock the audience, which I think it did.  I wouldn’t say something described as a ‘stunt’ is inherently bad, but the surprise death of a child on a soap is something that takes a lot of convincing to make me feel like it’s worthwhile.  Y&R has done a good job with the effects of her death and the far-reaching ramifications, but for me, killing a character, especially a child, is a little bit of an easy grab in terms of creating drama and consequences.  There are plenty of other ways to wring great performances and lasting drama out of a show or a storyline, and they generally require the powers that be at a show to be more creative.  I think there’s some idea that being willing to off a kid shows a degree of ballsiness, of toughness, on the part of the show, but I don’t really see that.  It’s harder on the audience than anyone else.  If a character being killed is the result of a good storyline and feels like an actual sacrifice the show is making, it means more.  When a show is killing a child (who for the most part are really not developed characters on the show so much as plot devices) or a character they clearly just want to get rid of, it’s much more convenient for them.  They’re doing themselves a favor at the expense of the people who care about the character being killed, which is the audience. 

    When I said it detracts from the canvas long-term, I was specifically talking about having removed a character from the canvas, one who had a family and connections and could someday be an important part of the show.  In this regard, killing Will seems especially shortsighted.  Think of all that DAYS could have done with Zack if they hadn’t killed him, the storyline possibilities involving Hope, Bo, Abe, Lexie, maybe even JT, but it’s all gone because he’s dead.

    As far as Emmys, I don’t blame the eventual winners for winning over the person or show I wanted to win so much as blaming the system, the voters, or both.  Everyone’s competing to win, so of course Y&R was going to put its best foot forward and try to win, which, that year, they did.  Sometimes it’s hard not to hold some resentment for a particular actor or actress who wins despite not being up to snuff, but I try not to.  

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    I felt that Guy Wilson gave some very good performances during the triangle story (Will/Paul/Sonny) but he just couldn’t measure up to the brilliance that was Chandler Massey. I am very upset by this news because it means they are getting rid of all the gay characters and stories – just like they did at OLTL (with ATWT it was a different matter: the show was cancelled, but still they didn’t give any of the gay characters a happy ending, killing off Reid, geesh).

    I would love it if Chandler Massey were to return. It is CRAZY and INSANE to kill off Will, a legacy character ): I continue to be unhappy with the new writing and the decisions (bad decisions) that Ken Corday is making. (I think it’s because he knows the writing is on the wall, and the show will likely be cancelled).

    I’m sure the acting will be fantastic, esp. Deidre Hall – and this would explain the return of Ali Sweeney, but it’s too sad ): Will matters to me a great deal and killing him off is really stupid ):

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    Guy Wilson was laughably bad…I mean there was nothing appealing about his performances, especially after seeing Massey’s far more nuanced work.  That being said, the real crime was the writing…I’m not even sure that Massey could have made that material work.  Will came off as a one note schemer, and by the time Wilson and the writers were finished, I was begging for Sonny to leave.

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    I think Will only started to look like a one-note schemer because Wilson wasn’t doing anything with it.  Making a character become a schemer usually helps bring the actor to life, but this did almost the opposite for Wilson.  

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