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    I have this crummy sinking feeling there will only be 4 nominees per category again this year ): personally, I wish they would expand it to 6!!! (: Hoping there will be the usual five, but after last year…. I wonder…

    Can I ask a simple question: WHY does it it take them 5 months to get to this stage, the actual nominees? It’s laziness imo. The Tonys finished their season a few days ago and the nominations will be out on Tuesday! It simply doesn’t take that long to watch clips and decide. The actors know what their best work was during 2013, and if they don’t, they can always ask us! (:  It’s always strange to have the Emmys more than 6 months after the end of the eligiblity period! Good grief! );

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    EmmyLoser
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    I agree, it does take what seems like forever to get to this point, and because of the way soaps run, by the time last year’s Emmys are handed out, most of this year’s Emmy-winning work will probably have been filmed already.  (Think of DAYS and their crazy lead time — they were filming for mid-September last week, so they may be in November or December by the time of the awards!)

    But I wouldn’t say it’s laziness.  We do have to reasonably account for the fact that all of these people who are participating in the process are very busy and need a reasonable amount of time to do things.  What really slows that process down is that there are not only two rounds of voting, but two rounds of submissions, meaning there have to be two reasonable time periods for people to select, format and submit their work.  Tony voters, I’m assuming, vote based on what they’ve seen throughout the season, where Daytime Emmy voting is almost exactly the opposite.  The voters admit that they don’t get to see much of the material on which they’re voting during the season, so they watch the performances they’re meant to be considering after the season is over.  If you look at the deadlines and dates, I don’t think any one timeframe seems excessive, it’s just when you add them all together that you start to feel like it’s a problem. 

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    EmmyLoser
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    Oh, and I don’t think we know how many nominees there will be yet.  I guess we’ll find out Thursday, though it frankly seems silly they’d go with less than five as a standard, since it’s just a matter of including the next name down on the list.  No extra work has to be done because they already have the winners.

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    I will say this: if it does turn out, come Thursday morning, that there are only four nominees per acting category, I will seriously stop following the Daytime Emmys. Considering the phenomenal year in acting that it was on all fronts, it’s completely unnecessary (and an insult, really, to the entire daytime acting body) to have such a few number of nominees. There’s absolutely no excuse for it. And it’s an insult also to those actors, like Amelia Heinle, who did Emmy-worthy work and deserve to be recognized, and for whom a nom would mean so much considering they’ve never been nominated previously.

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    I appreciate the passion on the subject, alokin, but I think there are some valid arguments for restricting the number of nominees.  I know performers in primetime usually now have six nominees per category, but look at the sheer volume of participants in those contests.  I don’t think it’s a slap on daytime acting to say that there are only, say, 15 actors who entered a certain category and, even if all 15 of them were excellent, only a small number of those should be honored as nominees without diluting the meaning of the nomination itself.  As much as awards are a subjective game, I do think that there should be an objective method for picking nominees, that a committee shouldn’t be able to add or subtract nominees based on whether or not they like the quality of the work presented.  I’m playing devil’s advocate here, because I certainly do hope there are more than four nominees.

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    Earlier today, I was looking through the rulebook for some clarity on the number of nominees, and I found this.  I feel like I should have noticed it sooner, but here it is:

    All nominations are determined from a viewing round. The number of nominations will not exceed 1/3 the number of entrants in the respective category unless there is a tie and unless the application of this rule would yield just two nominees. In these such categories, the said rule will be waived, with the understanding that there will always be a minimum of three and a maximum of five nominations per category (except in the case of a tie). Exception to the 1/3 Rule: In Daytime Drama categories in which all shows participate, there shall be a minimum of four nominees, except in the case where ‘ties’ would yield more than five nominees. Under this circumstance, the original 1/3 rule shall apply. When and if, in fact, a tie results, the number of nominations will be determined by the National Awards Committee. 

    I find this a little hard to make sense of in places, like if there’s a tie it seems like all hell could break loose and every rule is potentially nullified in favor of shooting for the best number.  But I would say this means we can safely assume five nominees (or maybe six) in, at the very least, lead actress and supporting actress, where we know there were more than 15 entrants, and 1/3 would result in more than five nominees.  We don’t really know who else submitted in which category, but we do know that the pre-noms weren’t necessarily the only competitors in the other categories either.  It seems likely that there were enough supporting actor contenders to get us to a fifth nominee there as well, with lead actor and younger actor and actress being more up in the air.  

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    I’ve heard the nominations are going to be announced on Good Morning America tomorrow? Does anyone know what time they will be announced? We will learn then how many nominees per category…

    btw, back in 2011 Soap Central  made two mistakes when they put up the nominees: they left Collen Zenk off the list for Best Actress and added Robin Strasser to the Supporting Actress list – I was ecstatic as Robin S. is my favorite daytime actress and deserved a second Emmy ): (Collen Zenk was my choice for Lead Actress that year too, so I was disappointed when her name wasn’t on the list; later on, I learned she was nominated). Hopefully, the list will be accurate this year! (;

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    I believe it will be between 8:30 and 9:00, probably around 8:40 or so, like the Oscar nominations were.  They’ll have a partial list of nominees, and the full list should be available very shortly thereafter at http://www.emmyonline.org/daytime.

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