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  • EmmyLoser
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    Yeah, these are so unpredictable, especially with us having no real information on who submitted where. None of the above would surprise me except for Deidre Hall or Kelly Monaco going supporting.

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    alokin
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    I’ll echo you guys in that it’s difficult making these predictions not knowing who submitted and where, and there are always those looming question marks as to who’s decided to sit it out, like Eric Braeden, Tracey E. Bregman, Elizabeth Hendrickson, Steve Burton, Jacqueline MacInnes Wood or Michelle Stafford, to name a few. Melody Thomas Scott, for instance, might again have chosen not to participate even though she would’ve made a very worthy candidate (she did some marvelous work throughout the year, most notably that surrounding Nikki’s struggles with MS during her benefit concert back in July). I also wonder if (and am hoping) Susan Seaforth Hayes quite possibly threw her hat into the ring, which if she did, could really shake up the Supporting actress race.
    Just for fun, I took a stab at the Guest Performers field even though we probably won’t find out much on who or what was submitted, but at least this time around there seems to be less mystery surrounding the likely winner as opposed to last year, as Y&R’s Marla Adams (Dina) has this category pretty much on lockdown.

    Lead Actress:

    Katherine Kelly Lang, B&B
    Heather Tom, B&B
    Mary Beth Evans, DAYS
    Arianne Zucker, DAYS
    Kelly Monaco, GH
    Maura West, GH
    Laura Wright, GH
    Sharon Case, Y&R
    Eileen Davidson, Y&R
    Gina Tognoni, Y&R

    Lead Actor:

    Scott Clifton, B&B
    Don Diamont, B&B
    Thorsten Kaye, B&B
    John McCook, B&B
    James Reynolds, DAYS
    Maurice Benard, GH
    Billy Miller, GH
    Peter Bergman, Y&R
    Joshua Morrow, Y&R
    Jason Thompson, Y&R

    Supporting Actress:

    Kimberlin Brown, B&B
    Judi Evans, DAYS
    Deidre Hall, DAYS
    Lauren Koslow, DAYS
    Genie Francis, GH
    Nancy Lee Grahn, GH
    Rebecca Herbst, GH
    Camryn Grimes, Y&R
    Amelia Heinle, Y&R
    Christel Khalil, Y&R

    Supporting Actor:

    Eric Martsolf, DAYS
    Christopher Sean, DAYS
    Freddie Smith, DAYS
    Greg Vaughan, DAYS
    Michael Easton, GH
    Anthony Montgomery, GH
    James Patrick Stuart, GH
    Daniel Hall, Y&R
    Bryton James, Y&R
    Greg Rikaart, Y&R

    Guest Performer:

    Patrika Darbo, B&B
    Alex Wyse, B&B
    Morgan Fairchild, DAYS
    Aaron D. Spears, DAYS
    Tionne (T-Boz) Watkins, DAYS
    Trent Dawson, GH
    Jessica Tuck, GH
    Vernee Watson, GH
    Marla Adams, Y&R
    Laur Allen, Y&R

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    FreemanGriffin
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    ^Almost none of the people you have in Guest Performer are eligible due to the weird rules. My understanding is you must be brand new to the show in a brand new role and there are limits on how many episodes you can have appeared in. Marla Adams is definitely not Guest Performer.

    I have been very surprised how many of you think James Reynolds will submit in lead?

    Freddie Smith has definitely said that he is submitting in Lead Actor.

    I am really surprised that you have 4 pre-noms from B&B for Best Actor. I would be shocked if that were to happen.

    Interesting lists from everybody! Let’s face it, it’s impossible to predict without a list of who submitted and who submitted in which category!

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    It is pretty tough to get a handle on the exact rules for guest performers, though the clearest one is that the performer cannot have appeared on the show in that role prior to the eligibility year. The submission guidelines do also mention the performer having made a limited number of appearances, though I don’t know what that limit is. I’m also willing to assume that any actor who has a contract that extends past the end of the year is also ineligible.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Just for fun this is my wish list for pre-nominations! It will be interesting to see what percentage show up on the actual lists (and sometimes they submit in a different category than I would place them)

    Lead Actress:
    Rena Sofer, B&B
    Kristian Alfonso, Days
    Deidre Hall, Days
    Marci Miller, Days
    Arianne Zucker, Days
    Nancy Lee Grahn, GH
    Maura West, GH
    Sharon Case, Y&R
    Eileen Davidson, Y&R
    Amelia Heinle, Y&R

    Lead Actor:
    Don Diamont, B&B
    John McCook, B&B
    Billy Flynn, Days
    Eric Martsolf, Days
    Freddie Smith, Days
    Daniel Goddard, Y&R
    Joshua Morrow, Y&R
    (that’s it for me, my top 7)

    Supporting Actress:
    Camila Banus, Days
    Judi Evans, Days
    Lauren Koslow, Days
    Suzanne Rogers, Days
    Alison Sweeney, Days
    Jane Elliot, GH
    Genie Francis, GH
    Marla Adams, Y&R
    Camryn Grimes, Y&R
    Mishael Morgan, Y&R

    Supporting Actor:
    Darin Brooks, B&B
    John Aniston, Days
    Bryan Datillo, Days
    Chandler Massey, Days
    James Reynolds, Days
    Christopher Sean, Days
    Greg Vaughan, Days
    Robert Scott, Wilson, Days
    Greg Rikaart, Y&R
    Max Shipee, Y&R

    I could be content with any of these being finalists for this year’s Daytime Emmys (:

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    It is pretty tough to get a handle on the exact rules for guest performers, though the clearest one is that the performer cannot have appeared on the show in that role prior to the eligibility year. The submission guidelines do also mention the performer having made a limited number of appearances, though I don’t know what that limit is. I’m also willing to assume that any actor who has a contract that extends past the end of the year is also ineligible.

    Thanks for clarifying. I believe eight of the performers I listed (with the exception of Fairchild and Adams, of course) debuted in 2017 as new characters so, going by the current rules, they should technically all be eligible. I can definitely see why Fairchild might be disqualified since she was recast in a role that was on the scene not all too long ago (when Anjelica Deveraux was last portrayed by Judith Chapman in 1991, I believe). I do think though there should be some sort of clause in the rules that allows for submissions by performers who have returned to a previously-existing role, as in Adams’ case, which hasn’t been featured prominently on a show’s canvas in over thirty years. For a character that has been more or less MIA for that great length of time, the current audience will not have much, if any (or as in the instance of the show’s older viewers, most likely lost) familiarity. Granted, Adams made brief guest appearances in 1991, 1996, and 2008 (if what’s listed on Wikipedia is accurate) but one would have to go back to the period of years between 1983 and 1986 to find the character of Dina last involved in major story. So, in essence, Dina’s presence on the canvas this past year feels just as novel, especially to Y&R’s younger demographic, as any of the newly-created characters that debuted on the show.
    To me, Adams represents the essence of what a true guest performer on a daytime serial is and should be, and it’s a shame that she be forced to compete in the supporting/lead actress fields when that guest actor Emmy was already so much as hers.

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    I have been very surprised how many of you think James Reynolds will submit in lead?

    Yes, EmmyLoser already made an excellent case for why James Reynolds should go Lead instead of Supporting. Abe had a lot of screen time in the aftermath of Theo’s shooting towards the last quarter of the year. And if Reynolds submits the scenes where Abe reminisces about a young Theo during the candlelight vigil at the Horton Square coupled with those where he talks at Theo’s bedside, I think he could very well clinch the Emmy.

    The Lead Actor field this year is particularly competitive though. Scott Clifton could (and deserves to) win back-to-back Emmys for the phenomenal year he’s had. He already made history last May for becoming the only actor to receive Emmys at all three levels while playing the same role, so it’ll be interesting to see if he can repeat. B&B also gave Don Diamont some of the most challenging material he’s ever had to play, and he stepped up to the plate big time, delivering some of his finest performances to date. It’s hard to imagine Diamont has never before even been nominated, but hopefully, that will all change this year. Don’t forget, there’s also Peter Bergman, who’s been doing gorgeous work surrounding Dina’s Alzheimer’s storyline. Considering how many times he garnered Lead Actor noms over the past two decades and went home empty-handed, he’s really overdue at this point for a win.

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    Peter Bergman has won 3 daytime Emmy awards (1991, 1992 and 2001).

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    My Updated/Final Pre-nomination Predictions

    Lead Actor
    Scott Clifton, The Bold & the Beautiful
    Peter Bergman, The Young & the Restless
    Daniel Goddard, The Young & the Restless
    Kristoff St. John, The Young & the Restless
    Jason Thompson, The Young & the Restless
    Billy Flynn, Days of our Lives
    Eric Martsolf, Days of our Lives
    Freddie Smith, Days of our Lives
    Steve Burton, General Hospital
    Billy Miller, General Hospital

    Lead Actress
    Heather Tom, The Bold & the Beautiful
    Sharon Case, The Young & the Restless
    Eileen Davidson, The Young & the Restless
    Amelia Heinle, The Young & the Restless
    Mary Beth Evans, Days of our Lives
    Deidre Hall, Days of our Lives
    Adrienne Zucker, Days of our Lives
    Nancy Lee Grahn, General Hospital
    Maura West, General Hospital
    Laura Wright, General Hospital

    Supporting Actor
    Darin Brooks, The Bold & the Beautiful
    Steve Burton, The Young & the Restless
    Bryton James, The Young & the Restless
    Greg Rikaart, The Young & the Restless
    Chandler Massey, Days of our Lives
    James Reynolds, Days of our Lives
    Christopher Sean, Days of our Lives
    Greg Vaughan, Days of our Lives
    Robert Scott Wilson, Days of our Lives
    Wally Kurth, General Hospital

    Supporting Actress
    Patrika Darbo, The Bold & the Beautiful
    Marla Adams, The Young & the Restless
    Judith Chapman, The Young & the Restless
    Camryn Grimes, The Young & the Restless
    Mishael Morgan, The Young & the Restless
    Eileen Davidson, Days of our Lives
    Judi Evans, Days of our Lives
    Alison Sweeney, Days of our Lives
    Genie Francis, General Hospital
    Finola Hughes, General Hospital

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Does anybody know what time on Thursday the pre-nominations will be announced? Will they be announced on The Talk again this year?

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    alokin
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    I’m surprised a lot of you are predicting Kristoff St. John. He was on backburner for a good portion of the year and nothing really sticks out in my mind as to what he could’ve submitted.
    My hunch is he more likely went supporting than lead this time around.

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    Peter Bergman has won 3 daytime Emmy awards (1991, 1992 and 2001).

    Right. It’s been nearly twenty years since his last victory and in that time he’s racked up an impressive six nominations without another win. He did some really moving, quiet work the years surrounding John’s death (2006-2008, I believe) for which I personally feel he should’ve won the Emmy. His work this past year was similar in its degree of subtlety but equally strong. He’s definitely a contender.

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    It’s possible the pre-nominations will actually be announced today. I’m keeping an eye on the Daytime Emmys press release website to see if anything pops up. Did they announce pre-noms on The Talk last year? I thought that was only the nominations. I generally think of the pre-noms just being released under the radar in a tweet or a Facebook post. The schedules are inconsistent as to whether they’ll be announced today or tomorrow, and last year they were announced on a Wednesday, so I’m hoping that is the case this year as well.

    Regarding Peter Bergman, I personally would have given him the Emmy a few years ago, when I believe he lost to Billy Miller. It was, I think, one of those years where people had sort of anointed Miller before even the end of the year, but I found his submission fairly underwhelming while Bergman’s was compelling and strong. I also would have sooner given the Emmy to Bergman than Scott Clifton last year, but I think that’s just my general distaste for Clifton’s style. That said, I would have picked Billy Flynn or Vincent Irizarry over either of them, though none of the reels was super great. Anywho, all that said, I also don’t feel Bergman is an actor who should necessarily have four or five Emmys, so unless he really blows me away, I’m good with him not winning anymore. If that story with Marco had been better executed, it would have been a good opportunity for Bergman to impress viewers and show something new, but that storyline was a failure on so many levels, and Bergman didn’t help at all.

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    I acknowledge Peter Bergman has done exceptional work in the Dina storyline. I just don’t like it when someone gets nominated too many times and wins too many times.

    I also don’t like the way they do the nominations. It should be for a whole year’s worth of work and not just “who has the best Emmy reel?”. With so many unemployed soap actors you would think they could hire a few to form a committee that actually watches all four shows and nominates based on the whole year!

    I think it says they are being revealed on the 25th? I might be getting my info confused with the Cesar awards, which aren’t being revealed until tomorrow. I will check to see though.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Of the four of us robbalto got the most right: 25 (on his last adjusted list!), EmmyLoser, Alokin and GHFan all got 23, and I got 22! I counted nominees who were in different categories from the ones we put them in as correct. Congrats, robbalto! (:

    These are incredibly hard to predict when we don’t know who submitted and who did not!

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