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  • robbalto
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    James Patrick Stuart was great on AMC. I thought he did well on GH, but his talent was somewhat wasted in this role.

    Molly Burnett continues to do a great job as Maxie on GH.

    Interesting that they brought back Jeffrey Vincent Parise as Joe Rivera. The approach that they used is one I have advocated many times: write off a character and bring back the actor as a GH staff member. However, I was thinking more along the lines of Maura West and Roger Howarth.

    This year, GH has added four characters who are doctors: Hamilton Finn, Andre Maddox, Griffin Munro, and now Joe Rivera. I applaud the writers for adding characters who are GH staff members. I would like the writers to ponder these considerations for the future: none of these characters are members of the core Quartermaine/Webber families; the big name soap stars who join the show are almost never hired to play GH staff members; none of the new doctors are women.

    Characters I am enjoying these days: Jordan, Sabrina, Griffin, Michael, Hamilton, Tracy, Laura, Nathan, Maxie, Curtis, Dillon, Kristina, Spencer, Kevin, Lucas, Aaron.

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    tennisfreak
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    It would be pretty hard to add a new character to the Quartermaines since most are dead. Part of me wishes soaps were like comic books and every so often we’d just reboot to a parallel universe where Alan, AJ and Emily aren’t dead.

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    zkrons
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    It would be pretty hard to add a new character to the Quartermaines since most are dead. Part of me wishes soaps were like comic books and every so often we’d just reboot to a parallel universe where Alan, AJ and Emily aren’t dead.

    That is such a cool idea!

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    robbalto
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    Actually, it would not be that difficult to add a Quartermaine. They could bring on a Quartermaine cousin. This was done twice in the 1980s, first with Alexandra Quartermaine and later with Celia Quartermaine. Also, Jimmy Lee disappeared 25 or so years ago. He could have grown children by now.

    The writers blew it with Steven Webber, but they could bring back Jeff Webber. And I have been advocating for years that they bring back Tom Hardy, Jr., who would be around 30 by now.

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    robbalto
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    Griffin and Elizabeth would make a great couple. Ditto Dillon and Kiki.

    Morgan has lost his mojo. He was at his best with Ava.

    I thought Dr. May was the hospital killer. Could it be that he did not really die? If it is not him, then I have no idea. No one else has an evident motive. The storyline was interesting, but it seems to be sputtering now.

    I wish they would write Jordan as more effective in her role as Police Commissioner. I feel the same way about the writing for Anna as a law enforcement agent. Back in the 80s, they wrote her as such a badass. That is the way she and Jordan should be written.

    We were going strong with the Quartermaines for a while, but they seem to have faded into the background. But then GH has a big cast and is juggling many stories. It seems they are are trying to please everyone by doing a little bit of everything instead of going with a strong, clear vision.

    On another note, I have been reading the DC message boards and so many commentators are complaining about the heroic portrayal of Sonny. But all the complaints seem to be falling on deaf ears. Why?Well, with all the political turmoil in our country, I keep wondering, how is it that Donald Trump won the Republican nomination even though he is clearly disliked by a majority of Republicans. The hypothesis I present to you is that it all comes down to publicity. In the 21st century, it would seem, there is (almost) no bad publicity. If people are talking about you, that is good. It doesn’t matter what they are saying. And so all of Trump’s naysayers keep him front and center in the public eye (whereas his Republican contenders were reduced to comparative wallflowers). What does this have to do with GH? I was thinking that Sonny Corinthos is basically the Donald Trump of GH. Most fans do not seem to like Sonny, or at the very least the way that he is written. On the message boards, we keep talking about him, with the perhaps misguided idea that someone at GH will listen. But I feel like the message received by ABC is inexplicably reduced to something like, “That Sonny is getting so much buzz. Love him or hate him, he gets people talking.” So I have decided to just stop talking about him. I believe that until people stop talking about him, he will remain a key player on GH. Now if I can just get everyone on all the message boards in on this! LOL.

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    I think this theory is SPOT ON regarding both the character and the presidential nominee, neither of whose names I’d like to give any more potential search hits! The powers that be often will gleefully interpret a lot of negative character about an established character as that the audience “loves to hate” this character, where in many cases the audience simply dislikes the characters portrayal or direction. I think some also feel that they can distill soap fandom to fans of a certain era being the show’s truest fans, and with GH, for many, I think that era is the late 1990s when the mob-affiliated characters really came to prominence. But I think this is a double misinterpretation, that fans of one era are better than the fans of other eras and also that the fans of this era still want to see these tired old stories where a mob boss is consistently made out to be a hero.

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    robbalto
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    Monday’s scenes with Maura West and Hayley Erin were really good. Ava actually seemed like a normal mother and not a career criminal. The discussion about Kiki’s relationship with Morgan was well-written. Ava was justified in her concern, but did not communicate effectively; Kiki could not see past the baggage in their relationship. It was one of West’s best performances this year. Hayley Erin did her best work as well and is inhabiting her character at a deeper level. It just goes to show that good writing brings out the best in actors.

    One of my frustrations with the show is the way they keep dropping story threads, I suppose due to the fact that they are juggling so many stories. For example, the Hospital Killer story comes and goes. And how is Hayden’s mother (Naomi) connected to Heather Webber? I’d like to say that I’m confident that these issues will eventually be resolved, but the show teased us for an entire year about Rosalie’s big secret and then dropped both the story and the character with no resolution or explanation. That was especially unfortunate since Linda Elena Tovar was so good.

    I do not understand the point of the story that has Lulu investigating the whereabouts of Luke. He’s not on the show anymore, so what is the point?

    Overall, I feel like the show is moving too slowly, and nothing is ever resolved.

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    Each time I see Laura and Kevin together, I become a bigger fan. It is so unexpected, but so delightful. I was relieved when Lucy was supportive of Kevin and not jealous. That was good writing. I also enjoyed the scenes with Laura and Ava.

    The scenes between Aaron and Kristina today were thoughtful and well-written, not to mention well-acted. I wish they would recast John DeLuca as a young GH doctor/Quartermaine cousin. He could become the show’s next leading man.

    My first impression of Chloe Lanier is very positive. But can’t they make her a pre-med or nursing student? They keep bringing on characters who are not tied to GH.

    I am enjoying Michael Easton as Hamilton Finn. The character is more interesting than Silas and Easton seems to be enjoying himself. He brings the sense of fun that the show has been missing for a long time.

    Here’s what I would like to see for some GH characters:

    Griffin Munro: learns that Alan Quartermaine (not Duke) is his father. Takes the Quartermaine name. Starts dating Elizabeth.

    Michael Quartermaine: decides he wants to do something meaningful with his life and goes to med school.

    Kiki Jerome: goes to college, grad school, or med school.

    Morgan Corinthos: goes to college; discovers that AJ Quartermaine is his biological father; has a major personality transformation and returns to the smart, ambitious person he was back in 2011.

    Hamilton Finn: gets into a romantic triangle with Elizabeth and Griffin. Discovers that he is Steve Hardy’s son.

    Overall, I would like to see the show focus more on the hospital and jettison some of the non-hospital characters.

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    GH had some really good scenes today. At the top of the list, I loved the scenes with Genie Francis and Jane Elliot, although I still do not understand the point of the story that precipitated their discussion. It seems to be leading up to Luke coming back, but I’m really hoping that is not the case.

    Also very strong were the scenes with Molly and Kristina. I like it when the writers take the time to explore their relationship. Lexi Ainsworth has had some good material lately.

    I have mixed feelings about the scenes with Franco and Elizabeth. I was annoyed that he was hiding in his car. For someone who’s trying to stay on the straight and narrow, he does too many creepy things like that. But otherwise the dialogue was good, and I liked when Elizabeth told him that he needs to find salvation within himself. Franco has a pattern of trying to change, but losing his cool when things don’t go his way; the way he uses misfortune as an excuse for bad behavior has worn thin.

    At this point, I do not understand the point of Alexis losing her career, at least temporarily. I will reserve judgment for now. The hearing scenes were well acted by Nancy Lee Grahn and Carolyn Hennesy, and it was nice to see Lisa LoCicero.

    GH has fallen into a pattern, in that in any given week, there are many scenes that are inspired and sparkly, juxtaposed with others that are cliched and dull. Overall, however, there is a marked improvement in the writing, particularly in terms of dialogue. The long-term storytelling is still weak.

    GH has become a hodgepodge of stories that start and then lapse randomly. You never know who you will see on any given day. When I think of Y&R, I think of Victor and Nikki, the Newmans, the Abbotts, and the Winters family. When I think of B&B, I think of Steffy, Liam, and Wyatt, the Forresters, and the Avants. I do not really associate any particular characters or stories with GH. The show has no real identity, which is actually an improvement from its focus on the mob.

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    So they’re clearly setting Alexis up to have a drinking problem (didn’t they half ass this with Kiki already?) and Nelle is clearly going to do The Hand That Rocks The Cradle. Did you catch that long long look she gave Sonny at the restaurant? I so don’t care for this or the hard turn Kevin & Laura took today. Why can’t a mature couple on a soap be sexy and intelligent instead of unnecessary and contrived drama?

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    Is it possible that Dr. May is really alive? I can’t let go of the idea that he is the Hospital Killer. The way he died off-screen… it was so glossed over. The writers are working overtime trying to make Andre look guilty, but I think they are deliberately trying to mislead us.

    Tennisfreak, I agree in that I am disappointed in the artificial roadblock for Kevin and Laura. And although I love Chloe Lanier, I am not excited about the story that seems to be developing. GH has had some good material lately, but they have not resolved the “big picture” issues with storytelling and characterization.

    I think the show’s biggest crime was the backpedaling in Michael Quartermaine’s characterization. He was poised to be a major player and then he lost his resolve. I feel sorry for Chad Duell, who won an Emmy for the great material written by Ron C. and now has been relegated to the back burner playing a compromised character in a dull story. If I could change any one aspect of the show, this would be the one. I would like to see him go to medical school and eventually work at GH.

    Although I have liked Kristina’s storyline, it has reached the point where she is coming off as petulant and bratty. The writers need to let go of the Parker story and move Kristina forward instead of spinning in storytelling circles.

    The writers wrote a nice breakup/resolution for Franco and Elizabeth last week, and then they inexplicably decided to undo it. Very disappointing. Now that Franco and Nina are no longer together, they collectively take twice as much airtime, and that is not good. Yes, Howarth and Herbst work well together, but I will never accept Franco as a romantic option for Elizabeth.

    Based on Heather’s comment today, I am guessing that Jeff Webber is Hayden’s father, which will make Hayden and Elizabeth (half) sisters. “That bitch has my diamonds?” LOL.

    I feel an Exoneration Party coming on for Julian. Sigh.

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    I have been enjoying the last few days because the show has focused on the hospital and related characters. It is interesting the ways the writers are tying together stories; for example, Ava’s chicanery is likely to result in Julian’s release from jail, which in turn will ramp up Julian’s conflict with Alexis.

    They also have finally revealed two major secrets: the identity of the Hospital Killer and the secret connection between Hayden and Elizabeth.

    It makes me feel like the writers are listening to fans, most of whom seem to prefer a hospital focus to the mob.

    Unfortunately, based on previews, it looks like the show will shift back to less compelling characters and stories on Thursday.

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    Ok Paul just makes no sense as the killer other than to give the Julian storyline the out that it needs. It’s pretty clear this writing regime writes mystery just like the last one did: With absolutely no end game other than a dues ex Machina that allows us to reset the status quo for their favorite characters.

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    tennisfreak
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    I just saw Marc Samuel in a Slim Jim ad. I do hope it helps pay the bills as the show despite its improved focus on the hospital seems to have lost any interest in him.

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    robbalto
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    Tennisfreak, I agree with your comment above, but I am so thrilled to see the show focus on the hospital that I will take it however I can get it.

    The last 3 days have not been good, focusing mostly on problematic characters and weak stories.

    Clearly, TPTB are afraid to make any sweeping, meaningful changes, and so the quality of the show is still compromised despite some improvements.

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