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  • EmmyLoser
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    Deidre Hall was PHENOMENAL in Monday’s episode with Hope confronting Hattie, and Kristian Alfonso did a great job as well. I was nearly in tears seeing poor Hattie’s facade crumble and her becoming just so vulnerable. I keep going back and forth over which actress is winning more in this doppelganger story, Deidre or Judi Evans, and Deidre just reclaimed the lead for me. I wonder if Evans can take it back! Given the material they’ve both had over the course of this year, both women have the potential to put together killer Emmy reels that are both moving and fun.

    I suppose that Hattie exposed Anjelica’s role in her actions but didn’t rat out Bonnie?

    I’m definitely interested to see what happens with Hope and Rafe now as well. Rafe trying to rush Hope to get married doesn’t really surprise me, but I also feel like the show has been slowly having Rafe act like a jerk here and there. (This is maybe petty, but I was very annoyed the day he staged a break-in at his house to get Hope to leave work and hang out with him instead of focusing on her job, and it reminded me of it when he said yesterday he had turned off her alarm clock.) His grudge toward Eli now is also extreme, and it was pretty crappy of him to not tell Hope that Abigail was marrying Dario for a green card before it happened. I don’t see Rafe suddenly becoming a bad guy or anything, but I do like him in certain contexts and not so much in others. More and more, I don’t like him with Hope.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    I guess Hattie didn’t reveal Anjelica’s involvement because she is afraid of blame in her death? Not really sure why she wouldn’t tell Marlena – perhaps if Marlena asked Hope to ask Hattie since she has a better rapport with her… wonderful work once again by Deidre today! (:

    I am at my most bored with all scenes that Claire is in ):

    I am so looking forward to Friday!!!!! (: Yeah!!!! (:

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    EmmyLoser
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    Unless I’m imagining full scenes outright (not entirely out of the question), I think the show may still be having some weird editing/continuity issues. I thought Hope and Rafe were discussing Anjelica’s role in Hattie’s actions, and I was a little surprised that the show had this happen off screen. But yesterday, during Hattie’s conversation with Marlena (the editing together of those scenes was very well done, by the way, making the conversation seem really real despite the difference in hair between Deidre Hall and her stand-in), it seemed no one knew anything about Hattie working with Anjelica.

    I kind of assumed while watching that this was just a matter of the chronology being off, that Hattie would tell Marlena about Anjelica by the episode’s end, and the show probably enjoyed having Bonnie being potentially exposed in two places at once. But with Hattie keeping mum on Anjelica, now I think it was just a sloppy mistake. Hope dropped into the Hattie/Marlena story for a couple of days just to help expose Hattie and get Marlena, John and Andre out of Bayview, but she’s not really a part of this branch of the show in the way that Marlena, Hattie, Bonnie, Adrienne, etc., and even people like Paul and Sonny, are. Which is to say, I’m guessing whoever is responsible for planning/writing scenes with Hope and Rafe is also doing the stuff with Eli, Gabi, Lani, JJ, the whole thing with Raines, etc. So I think maybe it was assumed by this writing group that Hope would have gotten this information out of Hattie, but that in fact didn’t happen, OR Hope was intended to have learned this from Hattie but then the other writing group changed their minds? I don’t know. I’ve given this a lot of thought for a thing I’m trying to just ignore.

    Anyway, I guess Hattie can’t really expose Anjelica without raising questions about what Anj wanted her to do as Marlena, which would lead to exposing Bonnie, which I’m sure she doesn’t want to do. It also would probably lead to some questions about Anjelica’s death, something she also wouldn’t want to get herself mixed up in, natural causes notwithstanding. With the way the Salem PD brain trust has been working lately, any mention of Anjelica by Hattie might be enough to piece together a general sketch of everything with Bonnie and Adrienne, because of Anj having been found in Adrienne’s room, the weird scene where Eric happened upon Bonnie and Hattie having basically a party, and Adrienne’s behavior of late.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Tomorrow (Friday) is CELEBRATION DAY!!!!! My Chandler/Will finally returns to my television screen!!!!! (: (: (: (insert: picture of moi doing a happy dance!) (; I know: he won’t really show up until October; he may or may not be the man at Bayview, or maybe he will return with some other character – we will have to wait and see!

    Too many people are putting the pieces of the puzzle together for Bonnie to continue to be Adrienne for too much longer. I am looking forward to the Lucas/Adrienne scenes! This story has been a really enjoyable one, yet it does feel like it is time to move on…

    Did Arianne Zucker change her mind about leaving the show? I feel as though the announcement was made a gazillion months ago? I would be happy for her to stay but have the feeling she will leave soon (just not with Eric, o.k.? She can take Brady with her, no problem for me with that)…

    It’s been so much fun watching Deidre and Judi work together; I hope Marlena and Adrienne become closer and they can continue to have some scenes together from time to time (:

    My Will is returning to Salem! The REAL WILL! (: Hooray! Yeah! Yahoo! Time to CELEBRATE! (:

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    robbalto
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    The returns just keep coming. The latest: Robert Scott Wilson! http://www.soapoperanetwork.com/2017/09/robert-scott-wilson-back-as-ben-on-days So I guess the person they showed for a moment the other day could be Will or Ben. Arianne is scheduled to depart in November. Regarding Bonnie, maybe they will find a way to prolong the story just a bit longer. What if Bonnie pretends to be Adrienne again — that is to say the wrongfully imprisoned Adrienne?

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Yes, it makes sense they would bring back Robert Scott Wilson, since Chandler mentioned they re-shot Will’s “murder”! Those scenes were so gruesome – yikes!

    I am looking forward to Days so much with all these wonderful returns!

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    EmmyLoser
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    I’d read that Arianne Zucker actually extended her time at the show and will air into December, though, haha, you’re right, Freeman, her impending departure was announced so long ago. Again, the long lag between filming and airing comes into play, and it was also announced that she was leaving well before her contract was actually up, then she extended that slightly to wrap up story.

    I’m also really excited Robert Scott Wilson is back! It’s great that DAYS has been able to keep both him and Paul Telfer coming back from time to time, both really good actors playing characters who misbehave too much to stick around for long stretches. Once I read Ben would be back, I assumed he was person who was stealing the key at Bayview. In Soap Opera Digest’s storyline preview, they mentioned an unexpected guest coming to the Sonny/Paul and Chad/Abigail double wedding. At the time I assumed it would be Will, but now I’m thinking it might be Ben, freshly escaped from the mental hospital. I also didn’t remember if they ever told Ben that Thomas is Chad’s son, not his. (I think they must have, right?) Or, yeah, it could just be Ben will be back for the reshot flashbacks. Man, it is going to be tough watching those murder scenes again, especially with Chandler Massey in them.

    Bonnie does seem to be finding a way to keep her ruse going, and Adrienne can’t seem to keep herself out of solitary! It was actually really considerate of Sheila to tell Adrienne that she wasn’t going to help her after all. I’m looking forward to what happens when Hope shows up at the Kiriakis mansion and runs into Sheila. It is also hilarious that Bonnie can’t stop referring to The Spectator as The Intruder. The thing Bonnie really has going for her as a character that Hattie didn’t is that Bonnie was a fully fleshed out character who was on canvas for years and had absolutely nothing to do with Adrienne before. It gives her a lot more to play around with. Hattie, on the other hand, has mostly existed as derivative of Marlena. Even in times when Hattie wasn’t involved with Marlena and her loved ones directly, the roles she played in storylines was always very minor.

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    Did Arianne Zucker change her mind about leaving the show? I feel as though the announcement was made a gazillion months ago?

    Last I heard she was set to leave around the end of November, according to Jason47

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    robbalto
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    This past week was another strong one for Days. The denouement of the Hattie storyline was highly entertaining, as was the unraveling of Bonnie. Now that the story is winding down, I can comfortably say that this Doppelgänger story was well worth the stretch. I enjoyed all the scenes with Deidre Hall, Judi Evans, Wally Kurth, Suzanne Rogers, Bryan Datillo, John Aniston, and Lauren Koslow, among others.

    I am looking forward to seeing what’s in store for Gabi, Eli, JJ, and Lani. And of course I’m looking forward to the series of returns, starting with Chandler Massey and Robert Scott Wilson.

    For the most part, Ron seems to be writing stories that showcase the actors and forward the plot while maintaining character nuance. Now that his material has been airing for two months, I have to say that he is off to a good start. It is frothy, but most definitely fun.

    The only part of the show that I’m still struggling with is the Brady/Nicole/Eric story. I’m not sure why, but I’m still not buying it. I think it might be because I have never before seen Brady display such jealousy. It just feels off to me. Aside from that, I don’t see Eric and Nicole reconnecting, given all that has transpired; I think they would just be happy that they made peace, wish each other well, and move on.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    It was so wonderful to watch Chandler Massey as Will once again (: I am surprised that he is 27 years old; he seems younger to me.

    Today’s episode was particularly appealing to me because it wasn’t marred by constant interruptions by Claire and Theo!

    Strong performances from everyone, especially Bryan Datillo, Chandler Massey, Freddie Smith and Christopher Sean (:

    I so look forward to Days each day now (:

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    EmmyLoser
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    Yes, it was really wonderful having Chandler Massey back and seeing Will and Lucas interacting, whether Will was actually there or not (I’m not even going to think about it much, just wait and see what happens). I also really liked the scenes with Sonny and Chad and Paul and JJ. This is the strongest Freddie Smith has gotten to be in a good while, and I always love seeing Sonny and Chad’s friendship on display. I also loved when the tailor thought the two of them were getting married, and Chad just played along. Sonny Bunny, what a great nickname! It also reminds me of back before Will and Sonny were really together and there was a pretty huge fanbase wanting Will and Casey Jon Deidrick’s Chad to get together, so much so that Casey and Chandler made fans a YouTube video for it. JJ giving Paul advice and wisdom shows what a long way that character has come as well. The Kate/Jennifer scenes were also very good. Kate as a character has a tendency to go too far or just be too much, so it’s nice to see her having a very human conversation that’s not about business, power, or some devious plot. A strong episode!

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    Last week was another strong one for Days. The denouement of the Hattie storyline was highly entertaining, as was the unraveling of Bonnie. Now that the story is winding down, I can comfortably say that this Doppelgänger story was well worth the stretch. I enjoyed all the scenes with Deidre Hall, Judi Evans, Wally Kurth, Suzanne Rogers, Bryan Datillo, John Aniston, and Lauren Koslow, among others.

    The scenes with Lucas and Will were great. Well-written with excellent acting! It’s fun watching the Sonny and Paul scenes, but I feel sorry for Paul, knowing what’s coming.

    For the most part, Ron seems to be writing stories that showcase the actors and forward the plot while maintaining character nuance. Now that his material has been airing for two months, I have to say that he is off to a good start. It is at times frothy, but most definitely fun.

    The only part of the show that I’m still struggling with is the Brady/Nicole/Eric story. I’m not sure why, but I’m still not buying it. I think it might be because I have never before seen Brady display such jealousy. It just feels off to me. Aside from that, I don’t see Eric and Nicole reconnecting, given all that has transpired; I think they would just be happy that they made peace, wish each other well, and move on.

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    My difficulty with the Brady/Eric/Nicole story is almost the opposite of that. I guess I just don’t want to see Eric and Nicole back together after everything that’s happened, but I can totally believe all of the characters’ actions and feelings. In yesterday’s episode, Brady asked Eric how long he’d been in love with (or at least harboring feelings for) Nicole, and it occurred to me that the answer is basically since he and Nicole almost had sex in the heating vent when Xander was trying to kill them. After that, Nicole committed herself to Daniel and mostly refused to talk to Eric, who started drinking to cope with the ridiculousness of Nicole rejecting him after everything she did to ruin his career just in the name of being with him. The accident happened, and he went to prison and began obsessively writing letters to her, ostensibly for forgiveness but clearly there was more. He’s been in and out of a fling with Jennifer in that time (I’d MUCH rather see this explored), but never seemed over Nicole. Brady’s jealousy echoes his reaction after the video of Kristen and Eric played at their wedding. Brady spent a ridiculous amount of time being mad at Eric and jealous about the whole thing even though Kristen had drugged and raped him, and he had no control over it. Brady is also understandably insecure because anytime he and Nicole have gotten together in the last 10 or so years, she’s dumped for some other guy, and her commitments to him have never been more than lukewarm. Jealousy (over Nicole and also Arianna) is what prompted Brady to have EJ nearly beaten to death (he only survived because Melanie showed up to stop the beatdown and nursed him back to health), even if it was ostensibly because of family tensions between the DiMeras and the Kiriakises. Nicole torpedoing her stable relationship and family life with Brady by having these feelings for Eric also feels very in character for her. She’s a character who can never leave well enough alone, and never really be content with what he has, so of course as soon as she gets Holly back and all of that is going smoothly, these feelings for Eric reawaken. I also think it’s true that Nicole has always loved Brady but never been in love with him. Despite all that, this story is also the part of the show that’s the most challenging for me.

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    robbalto
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    EmmyLoser, thank you for explaining the history with Brady, Nicole, and Eric. It makes me more sense after reading your analysis. Although we may not like the direction of the story, it is understandable given that Arianne Zucker is leaving.

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    Eric has always loved Nicole since he has been back in Salem. Nicole has never really loved Brady but has simply used him as her temporary holding place man because she is unable to just be alone and content. I think the end game is Eric and Nicole (sigh).

    I found the Thursday episode extremely dull and am hoping for a better one today (Friday). I just didn’t find anything compelling; they were doing stories I didn’t much care all that much about too.

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