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    I barely post lately because I feel so bored by these forums. Where is tomhardys? I know he’s trolling on Awards Watch lately among as bitchy (and sometimes offensive) people as he is, but I miss him a lot here! We need him to have our balance. Good guys (like me…..kidding!) and bad guys (like him….not kidding!).

    Overall I can say it without joking about him, that I want to see more posts by him and some other posters like babypook and Macbeth. What ever happened to (Baby Jane?) the old gang?

    I feel old. I feel like Maggie Smith in The Second Best Exotic Marigold Hotel. I need to sleep. And I need to win an Oscar.

    Does this thread make any sense? I don’t think so. I want to be offended by his posts again, I guess. Drama is an important part of my life.

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    CanadianFan
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    I think there are a few easy things GD could do to lure people back here.

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    ETPhoneHome
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    I think there are a few easy things GD could do to lure people back here.

    Such as? I’ve also been less active recently, but simply because it seems like the forums are just a lot quiter. In my case, it seems like there’s some useless circular logic of getting more people on the forums by having more people on the forums…

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    Riley
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    #457823

    24Emmy also has largely migrated and Icky is just not posting 🙁

    I have not been posting much substance lately and I need to get back to writing articles.

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    Well, if it’s any consolation… I’ll never leave!

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    CanadianFan
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    [quote=”SxECanadianFanSxE”]

    I think there are a few easy things GD could do to lure people back here.

    Such as? I’ve also been less active recently, but simply because it seems like the forums are just a lot quiter. In my case, it seems like there’s some useless circular logic of getting more people on the forums by having more people on the forums…
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    (1) Quick-posts. This would really make posting a less cumbersome process, which would probably facilitate discussion. The new GD interface is a step forward, but it could easily be improved with the addition of this.

    (2) GIFs (like every other forum in the world). I can see people wondering why this is a big deal, but it is. When someone posts something I don’t agree with, I want to bust out my favorite sassy Maggie Smith GIF. Is that too much to ask for?

    GIFs make forums a lot livelier due to their visual properties and because they are frequently used in a humorous way. Where is this place’s sense of community now? I think adding both of these things will help draw people back here.

    The clear alternative to this website has both of these. 

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    Macbeth
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    Interesting topic. 

    I believe you guys deserve honesty, so I will be candid and honest here. Sorry if I offend anybody 

    I can’t speak for everyone, but I can speak for myself.

    I am a very busy person, and I can only squeeze a small amount of leisure time into my day. That leisure time used to be spent on GoldDerby, which was my escape from the nastiness of life. But I found that over the last 10 months or so, things here started to change. Nothing huge happened immediately, but gradually, things started to go downhill, and in short…

    …I felt unwelcome.

    I have been here officially as a member since 2011. I had been lurking for a while before that. I am not going to blow my own trumpet, but I do think I am one of the long-standing and consistent members here, and to see that, you just need to look at the fact that I got the second highest number of nominations for the GD awards, and I won Best Film Forum Poster. I thought people actually…liked me. 

    That was until this year, when I started to see the change. People were shuffling around – old ones leaving, new ones joining. It started to look very different. But change is sometimes good, and I had no problem with the new members in any way, shape or form.

    My problem was that GoldDerby, in short, has sort of…sold out. I know we were acquired my Penske, and that’s HUGE and wonderful. That is not what I mean when we say we sold out. What I mean when I say we sold out is that GoldDerby went from being a predictions website, where we could predict nominations and winners through our own ingenuity and brilliance, to being a shill to the studios. When I joined here, grabbing a webcam chat with Jim Parsons was HUGE. Now we seem to be chasing the big stars and trying to get them to notice and praise us and love us. We also are so obsessed with getting the studios to notice us and give us “exclusive” information so we can write pieces on it – exclusive information such as Patricia Arquette being confirmed supporting! 

    Of course, wanting the studios to take us seriously isn’t really something to be blamed. Tom worked hard with his team of moderators to get this website noticed. But at what cost?

    The cost of ignoring the users.

    This entire “change-over” has meant that now the users are being treated as secondary citizens, when in the end, we kinda built this website along with the people in charge. Without users, there are no predictions, and with no predictions, there is no GD. Sure, there are the professional pundits, but they are paid to write. We do this out of our own free-will, and let me be honest – most of the users are much better at predicting than the experts. More on that later!

    Case in point – I tried an interesting experiment earlier this year. I asked for three contenders to be added to the predictions centre – Don Cheadle, Miranda Hart and Joaquim De Almeida, and I gave legitimate reasons as to why they should be included. Not only were they not added, I was condescended by several moderators who point blank refused to even consider comprehending the notion of thinking about considering adding them, but also made me out to be some absolute idiot. Yes, asking for those three to be added may not be the wisest thing in retrospect – De Almeida is in a bad film, Cheadle’s film is premiering next year etc. – but seriously, we had people like Patricia Clarkson for Learning to Drive and Jason Statham and Rose Bynre FROM THE SAME FILM AS HART! Not only was I condescended to like some child by moderators, I was also attacked by other users, some of which joined merely months before, and decided that they were going to attack Mr. Macbeth because, well, why the hell not? He must be an idiot because he predicted those people! I got attacked, both on the forum and in private message, and quite frankly it was quite upsetting. 

    You may think this is just a huge hissy fit because of those three not being added, but it is much more than that. The reason they weren’t added? THE STUDIO TOLD US NOT TO. My mother told me not to speak to go onto strange internet forums. That didn’t stop me, and for the last four or five years, I’ve been here, having the time of my life. The studios do not vote the for Oscars, and as long as the film comes out in time, then they have no say in who we do and don’t predict. 

    Maybe if we get the users to have a say and actually take us seriously, we won’t end up with tragic predictions like Johnny Depp WILL win the Oscar, or Robert De Niro being like 11th in the predictions centre. 

    I need to be honest here – I don’t know how mucht the moderators actually care about us. Its time for a fun game called DID YOU KNOW? Did you know that a large amount of users here DO NOT come from the United States? DID YOU KNOW that we also want to play to win contests? DID YOU KNOW it hurts when we find out that winning is exclusive to you actually being a citizen of the USA, so we can get the little gift card? I know apparently there is some legal stuff that restricts it just to the USA, but come on, is that the best you can do? You guys praise the fact that you can get these huge stars on webcam chats, and you can’t offer the winners of the contest the opportunity to get a shoutout from the stars, or a special question asked or something? I brought up this idea almost a year ago and the response I got was amazing – nothing. Not a word. There are so many ways to reward winners, but moderators won’t here it, so whatever. 

    Here’s another example, but it is one that I can at least say after much effort, it seems to be winding down – the spoilers. Goddamn. I stopped watching TV shows because GD wouldn’t stop spoiling them to get clicks. I don’t know if you guys actually read the posts I, and dozens of others, made about it, but you don’t need to spoil the shows in the titles of the articles, and if somene actually wants to know, they will open the article. However, I still occasionally see the odd spoiler, but I have just retired to the fact that it won’t ever stop, and that clickbait sometimes does rule the internet. 

    GoldDerby has changed, and I don’t like it. It has become a vicious place of fighting, argument, users being treated poorly, veteran users being attacked by scrappy newbies for no reason. A disagreement is fine, and an argument is essential and there is nothing quite like a good old bitchslap or two. But when I have my own personal life attacked by people I don’t even know outside of their tiny profile picture, and have my own values questioned, then I think its clear why this place bothers me so much.

    CanadianFan, you make some good points, but those are merely ideas that will make this place easier to navigate. If you want people to come back, or to stay at least, then maybe moderators can listen to us (and the FIRST time, not with the seventh or eighth time), users can actually calm down a bit – I am not a sensitive person, and I never get offended, but the attacks on me and other users in the past by many users, even brand new ones, aren’t fair and just irritating. Like I have always said, if the moderators are scared the studios are going to come and chase us with a wooden spoon for adding someone they said we shouldn’t, then at least give users the option of a write-in vote. I will gladly atone for my predictions should the studios ever actually bother to care about us predicting them (spoiler: they don’t!)

    I won’t say that I have left. I don’t really see the point of officially leaving. I like GD, and deep down, there are some good nuggets, but overall, recently it has become a bit of a challenge to actually care about or have any passion for. I just have stopped caring about awards overall, and concentrating on other parts of my life instead of predicting awards, because in the end, it is a fun thing to do, but if its not fun to be here, then I won’t want to spend my downtime here as much as I did before. I just feel like I have been treated a bit too poorly as of late, and I am sure other users feel the same. A lot needs to change here, and I think it should if GD is going to have the same standard that it seems to be so proud of. 

    I know this was a bit brutal, and I apologize if anyone is offended or if I come across as a jackass, but its just what I’ve been feeling. I’ll still be around maybe, so I wouldn’t say all hope is lost, but I don’t know if I want to be as prolific as before, because I have worked hard to be taken seriously, and if that’s going to be taken away from me, then maybe I don’t deserve to be here.  

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    vinny
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    #457827

    I was wondering the same thing. There are some people on this site that I tend to trust their opinions and he is one of them.

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    Anonymous
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    I don’t trust anyone. But I miss everyone.

    And Macbeth, I do agree with most of you points! 🙂 Thanks for the feedback!

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    babypook
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    #457829

    O, Hardys is around….posting now and then. He’ll be back regaling us with his wisdom and explosive short fuse.

    I didnt bother reading the rest.

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    babypook
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    Interesting topic. 

    I believe you guys deserve honesty, so I will be candid and honest here. Sorry if I offend anybody 

    I can’t speak for everyone, but I can speak for myself.

    I am a very busy person, and I can only squeeze a small amount of leisure time into my day. That leisure time used to be spent on GoldDerby, which was my escape from the nastiness of life. But I found that over the last 10 months or so, things here started to change. Nothing huge happened immediately, but gradually, things started to go downhill, and in short…

    …I felt unwelcome.

    I have been here officially as a member since 2011. I had been lurking for a while before that. I am not going to blow my own trumpet, but I do think I am one of the long-standing and consistent members here, and to see that, you just need to look at the fact that I got the second highest number of nominations for the GD awards, and I won Best Film Forum Poster. I thought people actually…liked me. 

    That was until this year, when I started to see the change. People were shuffling around – old ones leaving, new ones joining. It started to look very different. But change is sometimes good, and I had no problem with the new members in any way, shape or form.

    My problem was that GoldDerby, in short, has sort of…sold out. I know we were acquired my Penske, and that’s HUGE and wonderful. That is not what I mean when we say we sold out. What I mean when I say we sold out is that GoldDerby went from being a predictions website, where we could predict nominations and winners through our own ingenuity and brilliance, to being a shill to the studios. When I joined here, grabbing a webcam chat with Jim Parsons was HUGE. Now we seem to be chasing the big stars and trying to get them to notice and praise us and love us. We also are so obsessed with getting the studios to notice us and give us “exclusive” information so we can write pieces on it – exclusive information such as Patricia Arquette being confirmed supporting! 

    Of course, wanting the studios to take us seriously isn’t really something to be blamed. Tom worked hard with his team of moderators to get this website noticed. But at what cost?

    The cost of ignoring the users.

    This entire “change-over” has meant that now the users are being treated as secondary citizens, when in the end, we kinda built this website along with the people in charge. Without users, there are no predictions, and with no predictions, there is no GD. Sure, there are the professional pundits, but they are paid to write. We do this out of our own free-will, and let me be honest – most of the users are much better at predicting than the experts. More on that later!

    Case in point – I tried an interesting experiment earlier this year. I asked for three contenders to be added to the predictions centre – Don Cheadle, Miranda Hart and Joaquim De Almeida, and I gave legitimate reasons as to why they should be included. Not only were they not added, I was condescended by several moderators who point blank refused to even consider comprehending the notion of thinking about considering adding them, but also made me out to be some absolute idiot. Yes, asking for those three to be added may not be the wisest thing in retrospect – De Almeida is in a bad film, Cheadle’s film is premiering next year etc. – but seriously, we had people like Patricia Clarkson for Learning to Drive and Jason Statham and Rose Bynre FROM THE SAME FILM AS HART! Not only was I condescended to like some child by moderators, I was also attacked by other users, some of which joined merely months before, and decided that they were going to attack Mr. Macbeth because, well, why the hell not? He must be an idiot because he predicted those people! I got attacked, both on the forum and in private message, and quite frankly it was quite upsetting. 

    You may think this is just a huge hissy fit because of those three not being added, but it is much more than that. The reason they weren’t added? THE STUDIO TOLD US NOT TO. My mother told me not to speak to go onto strange internet forums. That didn’t stop me, and for the last four or five years, I’ve been here, having the time of my life. The studios do not vote the for Oscars, and as long as the film comes out in time, then they have no say in who we do and don’t predict. 

    Maybe if we get the users to have a say and actually take us seriously, we won’t end up with tragic predictions like Johnny Depp WILL win the Oscar, or Robert De Niro being like 11th in the predictions centre. 

    I need to be honest here – I don’t know how mucht the moderators actually care about us. Its time for a fun game called DID YOU KNOW? Did you know that a large amount of users here DO NOT come from the United States? DID YOU KNOW that we also want to play to win contests? DID YOU KNOW it hurts when we find out that winning is exclusive to you actually being a citizen of the USA, so we can get the little gift card? I know apparently there is some legal stuff that restricts it just to the USA, but come on, is that the best you can do? You guys praise the fact that you can get these huge stars on webcam chats, and you can’t offer the winners of the contest the opportunity to get a shoutout from the stars, or a special question asked or something? I brought up this idea almost a year ago and the response I got was amazing – nothing. Not a word. There are so many ways to reward winners, but moderators won’t here it, so whatever. 

    Here’s another example, but it is one that I can at least say after much effort, it seems to be winding down – the spoilers. Goddamn. I stopped watching TV shows because GD wouldn’t stop spoiling them to get clicks. I don’t know if you guys actually read the posts I, and dozens of others, made about it, but you don’t need to spoil the shows in the titles of the articles, and if somene actually wants to know, they will open the article. However, I still occasionally see the odd spoiler, but I have just retired to the fact that it won’t ever stop, and that clickbait sometimes does rule the internet. 

    GoldDerby has changed, and I don’t like it. It has become a vicious place of fighting, argument, users being treated poorly, veteran users being attacked by scrappy newbies for no reason. A disagreement is fine, and an argument is essential and there is nothing quite like a good old bitchslap or two. But when I have my own personal life attacked by people I don’t even know outside of their tiny profile picture, and have my own values questioned, then I think its clear why this place bothers me so much.

    CanadianFan, you make some good points, but those are merely ideas that will make this place easier to navigate. If you want people to come back, or to stay at least, then maybe moderators can listen to us (and the FIRST time, not with the seventh or eighth time), users can actually calm down a bit – I am not a sensitive person, and I never get offended, but the attacks on me and other users in the past by many users, even brand new ones, aren’t fair and just irritating. Like I have always said, if the moderators are scared the studios are going to come and chase us with a wooden spoon for adding someone they said we shouldn’t, then at least give users the option of a write-in vote. I will gladly atone for my predictions should the studios ever actually bother to care about us predicting them (spoiler: they don’t!)

    I won’t say that I have left. I don’t really see the point of officially leaving. I like GD, and deep down, there are some good nuggets, but overall, recently it has become a bit of a challenge to actually care about or have any passion for. I just have stopped caring about awards overall, and concentrating on other parts of my life instead of predicting awards, because in the end, it is a fun thing to do, but if its not fun to be here, then I won’t want to spend my downtime here as much as I did before. I just feel like I have been treated a bit too poorly as of late, and I am sure other users feel the same. A lot needs to change here, and I think it should if GD is going to have the same standard that it seems to be so proud of. 

    I know this was a bit brutal, and I apologize if anyone is offended or if I come across as a jackass, but its just what I’ve been feeling. I’ll still be around maybe, so I wouldn’t say all hope is lost, but I don’t know if I want to be as prolific as before, because I have worked hard to be taken seriously, and if that’s going to be taken away from me, then maybe I don’t deserve to be here.  

     

    Nice, forthright post Macbeth.

    I dont know if this helps, but I’ve been lurking and a member here since 2002. I’m NOT an American, and by choice too.

    GD is similar to any office politics. It changes. And as you’ve said, people come and people go. A few of my good friends were “chased away” by an arrogant prick who isnt here anymore. 

    Your BFF’s here and I, could be in the same room as that Sartre play, No Exit. It happens. Take a look at any playroom, where participants there havent learned yet to be entirely devious and insincere.

    But I for one, am glad you’re with us. Stay. That’s a great way to see the changes happening again, for the good.

    You won Best Film Forum Poster? I thought that was me. Better check that but I do have those certificates framed and on my wall. Anyways if you did, kudos. You’re deserving.

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    OnTheAisle
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    I know he’s trolling on Awards Watch lately among as bitchy (and sometimes offensive) people as he is, but I miss him a lot here!

    Traffic has slowed down here. I emailed some folks who have been silent for a while. No one cops to joining a new arena, just “been busy” chatter.  

    I have been here for many years. Your post, Vincelette, prompted me to visit the competition for the first time. I went over to Awards Watch to check it out.

    The Website is not particularly attractive. If I spent more time, I might have become more adept at navigating things. I found the conversations dry. No one interesting enough on an initial scattershot overview to rival my affection for my circle of GD posters that constitute the frequently read.

    However, my eyes popped on the glorious pictures! I don’t think GD became less interesting, but I do miss the pictures. I loved to look at the photographs from the corners of the world that would pop up on screen. As I continued to read over the other site, I ached for how GD used to look. We enjoy awards for visual art forms. If the visual is gone, half the reason we are here is missing.

    And then I grew annoyed. Why can Awards Watch posters share an infinite numbers of pictures and not suffer the same legal entanglements Tom faces?

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    Their predictions are much better. And that’s pretty fascinating for a site which deals with award shows. We have a very impressive prediction center, but we don’t use it well. I don’t understand why do we let “old predictions” to appear in the current results? Like some noname user registrating on GD and predicting Ellen Page for the first time in September, then he never returns or updates his predictions again….so what’s happening with his lame-ass prediction from September? Nothing. It’s still on because of the shitty system. This November we can still see Ellen Page in Top 10 even if her movie flopped badly.

    Like we should refresh the prediction center every month. It would force us all to change or update our predictions monthly, because God sees my soul some of the GD predictions in the last few years were TERRIBLE. Like Vanessa Redgrave in Foxcatcher or Margo Martindale in August: Osage County – GD had them until the end, AW kicked them out of their predictions after 1 week.

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    Macbeth
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    You won Best Film Forum Poster? I thought that was me. Better check that but I do have those certificates framed and on my wall. Anyways if you did, kudos. You’re deserving.

    This made me very confused so I had a look – you won Best Forum Poster and I won Best Film Forum Poster – so I see where the confusion comes in!  

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    KyleBailey
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    I agree with what your feeling Macbeth. We’ve had our fair share of sparring but at least I felt like I was having an intelligent debate rather than some of the dumb spars I’m finding myself walking into with people that don’t even know what they are talking about half the time. I used to be on Gold Derby like any time of the day I was at my computer but now it sometimes happens once a day and that’s because a lot of the discussions here have become middling think piece stuff or the same old nonsense with a different title to the thread. Do we really need 10 threads about the same movie or actor? Some of the questions are plausible to be on separate threads but I feel like a lot of us end up repeating ourselves because the same discussion is happening on every thread! But I still enjoy the site and I enjoy having the company to share thoughts, ideas, speculations, and disagreements with people who care since most of my friends don’t so it is a little less of an exiting place to prompt a discussions without people that we’ve mentioned that are in the shadows that bring insightful ideas. It is a shame that most of the people that were being celebrated in April as Gold Derby’s finest are just not caring anymore. (And for the record Macbeth, you were right about Joaquim. He was great in Our Brand is Crisis and if he is in lead at the Globes I could see him making it in, in such a weak field for Best Actor in a Comedy) 

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