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  • Tom O’Neil
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    Who do you think makes the most convincing argument?

    5 REASONS WHY MICHAEL KEATON WILL WIN
    By Tariq Khan 

    http://www.goldderby.com/news/7945/michael-keaton-birdman-oscars-eddie-redmayne-entertainment-13579086-story.html

    http://shar.es/13wtWX

    5 REASONS WHY EDDIE REDMAYNE WILL WIN

    By Marcus Dixon

    http://www.goldderby.com/news/7946/eddie-redmayne-theory-of-everything-oscars-michael-keaton-entertainment-13579086-story.html 

    http://shar.es/13wtrK

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    KyleBailey
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    Marcus because he isn’t going with Keaton and said it perfectly: Keaton is playing Keaton. Where’s the acting in his performance? When did walking down the street in your underwear start being considered as a “physical” performance 

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    Macbeth
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    Mr. Khan because he sees the light and knows that Michael Keaton will win and should win. 

    I can guarentee you right now, in ten years, hardly anyone will remember Eddie Redmayne’s performance in The Theory of Everything. It may be good, and it may be a great physical performance, but it has nothing memorable about it. Daniel Day-Lewis will not be remembered for his similar performance in My Left Foot, he will be remembered for his villainous performances in Gangs of New York or There Will Be Blood. The performances that become iconic and historic movie moments are always the ones that stick out and are excellent and have longevity. Redmayne may very well win, but you need to be serious and admit that in a few years (even next year) the performance will be overshadowed by some other biopic – hell, Redmayne’s performance is already being overshadowed THIS year by other biopics. There is no performance like Keaton’s this year, in year’s past and in the forseeable future. It is unique and will be long remembered, much longer than Redmayne’s will be.  

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    TomHardys
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    Mr. Khan because he sees the light and knows that Michael Keaton will win and should win. 

    I can guarentee you right now, in ten years, hardly anyone will remember Eddie Redmayne’s performance in The Theory of Everything. It may be good, and it may be a great physical performance, but it has nothing memorable about it. Daniel Day-Lewis will not be remembered for his similar performance in My Left Foot, he will be remembered for his villainous performances in Gangs of New York or There Will Be Blood. The performances that become iconic and historic movie moments are always the ones that stick out and are excellent and have longevity. Redmayne may very well win, but you need to be serious and admit that in a few years (even next year) the performance will be overshadowed by some other biopic – hell, Redmayne’s performance is already being overshadowed THIS year by other biopics. There is no performance like Keaton’s this year, in year’s past and in the forseeable future. It is unique and will be long remembered, much longer than Redmayne’s will be.  

    I agree completely. Redmayne was amazing but nowhere near Keaton’s level IMO. The same thing applies to the Best Actress race: Moore is amazing in Still Alice but nothing to write home about while Pike’s performance will no doubt become iconic in the veins of Brad Pitt and Edward Norton in Fight Club.

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    Marcus because he isn’t going with Keaton and said it perfectly: Keaton is playing Keaton. Where’s the acting in his performance? When did walking down the street in your underwear start being considered as a “physical” performance 

     

    Ugh. Nobody plays themselves. They’re playing a character. You can’t really think Michael Keaton hears a Batman voice and acts like that.

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    TomHardys
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    Marcus because he isn’t going with Keaton and said it perfectly: Keaton is playing Keaton. Where’s the acting in his performance? When did walking down the street in your underwear start being considered as a “physical” performance 

    That’s as simplistic as saying that Mickey Rourke was playing himself in The Wrestler. Keaton’s role in Birdman is tricky and complex and imo he pulled it off. The only male actor who was better than him this year (from what I’ve seen) was Gyllenhaal.

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    I’ve seen both movies and was riveted by “Birdman” for the reasons already stated also the voice in his head that talks to him in the ‘Birdman’ voice was pretty damn haunting when watching the movie. I do think that will help whereas when I wathced “Theory of Everything” I enjoyed the performance for the first half but then Hawking used the voice so it was like Redmayne was sleeping because he did nothing physically or with his won voice, but this could just be complaining that he transformed himself too much. 

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    He’s an actor playing an actor that used to be famous for playing a superhero and trying to get a comeback. Yes, Keaton is playing Keaton essentialy. A true outstanding performance this year is Ralph Fiennes in Budapest Hotel. Keaton doesn’t hold a candle to the performance Fiennes gave in Budapest 

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    Macbeth
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    He’s an actor playing an actor that used to be famous for playing a superhero and trying to get a comeback. Yes, Keaton is playing Keaton essentialy.

    Okay, I’ll bite:

    • Keaton’s character is not named Michael Keaton. It is Riggan Thomson
    • Keaton did not attempt suicide
    • Keaton did not try and get a comeback through a stage play of a a classic novel
    • Keaton’s daughter is not Emma Stone
    • Keaton did not stop being a huge movie star because he failed or became irrelevant, he chose to go off the map for personal reasons and boredom of the industry. 
    • The Keaton-era Batman films continued after Keaton left. The Birdman films did not. Keaton is widely considered the best Batman, Thomson is considered the one and only washed up Birdman. 

    So he is not playing Michael Keaton. He is playing Riggan Thomson. So there are just as many differences between Keaton and his performance as there are similarities. The fact is he gave an amazing performance, and it was quite different from any other performance we’ve seen Keaton in. 

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    “Playing himself” is a poor criticism even if an actor is literally playing themselves. But it’s a particularly strange one in this case. The filmmakers took some aspects of Keaton’s career (pretty much that he played Batman) and imbued them in the character. That hardly equates to someone playing themselves. Mickey Rouke was closer to “playing himself” in The Wrestler (and he should have won).

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    He’s an actor playing an actor that used to be famous for playing a superhero and trying to get a comeback. Yes, Keaton is playing Keaton essentialy. A true outstanding performance this year is Ralph Fiennes in Budapest Hotel. Keaton doesn’t hold a candle to the performance Fiennes gave in Budapest 

    While I do agree that Fiennes gave an much better performance, I don’t agree that Keaton playing an actor makes it any less of a performance. If all actors were evaluated by how similar their personal stories are to the stories of the character, then Vin Diesel should win for Guardians of the Galaxy, because he isn’t anywhere close to being a talking alien tree. The way that a character is played by an actor is through the development of the little details of their character, that would drive them to do and say what the character says and does. Keaton isn’t reenacting a scene from his life. He created a new character, placed him in an invented world, and acted. While I think Fiennes did have a more challenging role, and played it excellently, that isn’t at all a knock on Keaton.

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    I think it’s going to be Keaton or Eddie but I kinda hope that we get an Oscar tie. I saw Birdman (awesome) and saw the theory of everything (his performance was AMAZING). It’s a shame one has to lose.

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    24Emmy
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    Is Benedict Cumberbatch going to get one of these special 5 reasons he’s going to win articles? I still think he has a much better shot than Eddie Redmayne. The Imitation Game seems to be one of the 3 movies that can actually win Best Picture (along with Boyhood and Selma).

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    rstang00
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    Eddie Redmayne will win this, but I still don’t agree with Marcus.

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    CAROL-CHANNING
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    Different actors have a different set of skills.  To some actors who find physicality very easy, playing Stephen Hawking isn’t as challenging as playing a role like Riggan Thomson.  The role of Riggan Thomson could be seen as far more difficult to interpret, and he has more variety in his stuggles in Birdman.  And vice-versa… some actors who could easily handle the many different ups and downs of Riggan Thomson could have a lot of difficulty with something like Stephan Hawking.

    I think Keaton was definitely helped by the fact that Birdman is a much better film than The Theory of Everything.  More is explored in Riggan Thomson’s journey, and I, as an audience member, felt like I got more of a well-rounded idea of his character than I did with Stephen Hawking.  Also, the connections Keaton has with his character made his performance even more exciting to watch. 

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