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    As a big big fan of hers, I’ve always wondered what has kept the wonderful Toni Collette from universal critical acclaim for so long.
    Yes, I know many people are aware of her talent and she’s an Oscar nominee and an Emmy and Golden Globe winner, but still in my mind, most of her work still goes unsung and she’s constantly amazing!

    Despite several well recieved supporting turns in cinema – in acclaimed movie and Academy friendly ones such as The Hours or Little Miss Sunshine – she seems to be always away from the spotlight and for her wonderful career she has one nomination – The Sixth Sense – under her belt. And United States of Tara, her biggest vehicle, although in TV, is extremely underrated and so got cancelled too early.

    So, while I was listening to some great music on youtube, it hit me. What do you guys think of a Joni Mitchell’s biopic starring Toni Collette? They are both beautiful in an unusual way, Mitchell is the kind of personality that would give an interesting biopic and Toni Collette can sing! Maybe this is a terrible idea, but I like the sound of it. What do you think? 

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    I remember watching United States of Tara and thinking that if Diablo Cody reteamed with Reitman (which she eventually did with Young Adult) and made it a film, Collette would be a DDL/Blanchett-level lock for the Oscar. And just think…it would have stopped Bullock.

    I think Collette could definitely pull off Joni Mitchell. I’d love to see it.

    But now that I’m thinking about it, I’d love to see her in a Reitman/Cody film.

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    What I admire about her is she doesn’t mind not playing the leading lady nor the supporting lady for that matter. She goes after great characters e.g. her role in Hitchcock, where I’m pretty sure she was fifth or sixth billed behing Anthony Hopkins, Helen Mirren, Scarlett Johansson, Jessica Biel, and Danny Huston. Still, I remember her very well. United States of Tara was very unfairly cancelled, especially frustrating because the same network let Dexter and Weeds wear out its welcome. 

    She barely got that nomination for The Sixth Sense, as she didn’t have a single major precursor going into it (no Critics Choice, Globe, SAG, or BAFTA), but it’s still one of my favorite noms (poor Cameron Diaz, however, being snubbed for her best film role to date in Being John Malkovich, a truly underrated character transformation). 

    Collette never disappoints, no matter what the medium, no matter the size of the role. But she needs to be slightly choosier about her roles, as her latest television series – Hostages opposite Dylan McDermott – was a big flat flop (although I’m sure it being placed into Miniseries will garner her another nom, and as dead as Lead Actress is, I’m fine with that. The same thing happened with Ashley Judd/Missing).  

    Some actresses we know will inevitably win one day – Julianne Moore, Annette Bening, Amy Adams, Laura Linney – while others still have time – Michelle Pfeiffer, Glenn Close, Sigourney Weaver. Then there are those that, for me, make you scratch your head and go, “I just don’t know… It seems too good to be true.” Collette falls into that category.  

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    Haven’t seen everything she’s in, but she’s been great in what I’ve seen; seeimingly a very dependable presence. I agree with the post above ^. She does have some thankless roles in her filmography. She deserves a career akin to Adam’s, Close’s or Moore’s. 

    I wouldn’t say Moore is someone who’s destined to win. There never appears to be a sense of “momentous occasion” with her, or urgency, but never say never. Not that every winner carries that, but for someone who’s been nominated multiple times it usually ought to culminate in a performance/role encapsulating that, or it’s a “career-win”. Surely If she were to land more plum roles, preferably in more high-profile films or films with Oscar-caliber cast/pull an Adams every other year – her chances would greatly go up. She needs a Jasmine. Or a Fantine. 
    I guess the same would go for Collette. 

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    I agree Collette has the chops to be a front runner for a future award season. However she seems a bit indifferent to the chase for good material that would place her at the forefront. Unlike television where the opportunities for women are plentiful. Quality material in film for women is a battle. Specifically for non-commercial types like Collette. If Collette’s elusive Oscar victory were in supporting actress would you be disappointed or relieved?

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    Well, she recently plays my favorite character (Maureen, the mother of a seriously disabled son) in the film adaptation of Nick Horby’s novel “A long Way down”. Too bad the film didn’t get good reviews…

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    It’s not playing a musician like Joni, but Toni stars as a rock journalist in the film, Lucky Them, which was a project Paul Newman was involved in before he passed and Joanne Woodward is producing.  It may be too indie for awards attention, but I think the reviews were very positive at the Toronto Film Festival last year, so I have high hopes for it.

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    I think Collette could definitely pull off Joni Mitchell. I’d love to see it.

    But now that I’m thinking about it, I’d love to see her in a Reitman/Cody film.

    Glad you agree with the Joni Mitchell option. It was just a random idea that came up, but an interesting one, I guess.

    I’m not sure about her pairing with Reitman and Cody. Reitman + Cody seems to be like the combination which only works once. And they had the beautiful Juno. However, I’d love to see Collette work again with Diablo Cody in some crazy independent film, even if it didn’t get any attention.

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    Some actresses we know will inevitably win one day – Julianne Moore, Annette Bening, Amy Adams, Laura Linney – while others still have time – Michelle Pfeiffer, Glenn Close, Sigourney Weaver. Then there are those that, for me, make you scratch your head and go, “I just don’t know… It seems too good to be true.” Collette falls into that category.  

    I’m discussing Collette because that’s what came to my mind. All of those ladies you listed are equally deserving and much more liklier to get it. Though I would say the time for Pfeiffer, Close or Weaver has past and they are very unlikely to win again. But who knows. Maybe one of them will win next year!
    And I guess Linney is unlikely too. Now Moore, Bening and Adams are, each year and each project, real threats to win an Oscar and because I love the three of them, I’m waiting for that day!
     

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    I wouldn’t say Moore is someone who’s destined to win. There never appears to be a sense of “momentous occasion” with her, or urgency, but never say never. Not that every winner carries that, but for someone who’s been nominated multiple times it usually ought to culminate in a performance/role encapsulating that, or it’s a “career-win”. Surely If she were to land more plum roles, preferably in more high-profile films or films with Oscar-caliber cast/pull an Adams every other year – her chances would greatly go up. She needs a Jasmine. Or a Fantine. 
    I guess the same would go for Collette. 

    I agree on your thoughts about Moore, but I think she was really close with Far From Heaven – though if Nicole hadn’t won, it would probably have been Zellweger. She never seems to have the “urgency” you’re talking about, however when you look back, it feels wrong that she hasn’t one award already.
    And Collette really needs a high-profile film. Both The Hours and Little Miss Sunshine had the “ensemble problem”. She had a very small role in The Hours, albeit an amazing one, but by placing Moore in Supporting she would never stand a chance. In Little Miss Sunshine she wasn’t going to be nominated over Abigail Breslin and pushing her to the Lead race would be wrong and would never work as well. That’s why she needs a vehicle of her own. A Blue Jasmine of her own. 

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    I wouldn’t say Moore is someone who’s destined to win. There never appears to be a sense of “momentous occasion” with her, or urgency, but never say never. Not that every winner carries that, but for someone who’s been nominated multiple times it usually ought to culminate in a performance/role encapsulating that, or it’s a “career-win”. Surely If she were to land more plum roles, preferably in more high-profile films or films with Oscar-caliber cast/pull an Adams every other year – her chances would greatly go up. She needs a Jasmine. Or a Fantine. 
    I guess the same would go for Collette. 

    I agree on your thoughts about Moore, but I think she was really close with Far From Heaven – though if Nicole hadn’t won, it would probably have been Zellweger. She never seems to have the “urgency” you’re talking about, however when you look back, it feels wrong that she hasn’t one award already.
    And Collette really needs a high-profile film. Both The Hours and Little Miss Sunshine had the “ensemble problem”. She had a very small role in The Hours, albeit an amazing one, but by placing Moore in Supporting she would never stand a chance. In Little Miss Sunshine she wasn’t going to be nominated over Abigail Breslin and pushing her to the Lead race would be wrong and would never work as well. That’s why she needs a vehicle of her own. A Blue Jasmine of her own. 

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    Linney missed her window. Moore and Benning probaby have too, but are still more likely than Linney.

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    If Collette’s elusive Oscar victory were in supporting actress would you be disappointed or relieved?

    Relieved. I’ll explain why.
    I don’t see Collette as the “traditional leading lady”, although she has proven, with Tara, that she can carry a show on her own.
    I see her as a great actress who usually gets good supporting roles and makes the most out of them. Hell, she can even make not-so-good characters interesting. And when she goes for Lead roles she usually goes for odd-ones – not that this is a bad thing. Like Muriel’s Wedding. I would be very happy to see her win a Supporting Actress Oscar. Many great talents are destined to end up there – see Tilda Swinton.
    And for another reason. Because I don’t think Lead Actress is any better than Supporting Actress. They are equally important. Supporting Actress is a very complicated category. It’s easy to standout when you have a film of your own, when you’re at the center, at the spotlight. It’s much more difficult to shine and to standout in a smaller role. Think about it. To have such a small role on an ensemble piece like The Hours and still stand out isn’t that easy, right? You need to be really good. See Viola Davis in Doubt – against titans like Streep and Hoffman and the always great Adams, she stood out in a very very small role. And the opposite is also true. It’s also very difficult to win in Lead Actress because if you have a film of your own you need to be really good to be able to carry it – Blue Jasmine would’ve been a mess if Blanchett were not an amazing actress herself. I hate when people take away the importance of the Supporting categories. They are all important. To win either will always be a reason to be proud of yourself.

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    Well, she recently plays my favorite character (Maureen, the mother of a seriously disabled son) in the film adaptation of Nick Horby’s novel “A long Way down”. Too bad the film didn’t get good reviews…

    I was really looking forward to see it as I love Collette and most of Hornby’s work. Sad to know it wasn’t well recieved. 

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    It’s not playing a musician like Joni, but Toni stars as a rock journalist in the film, Lucky Them, which was a project Paul Newman was involved in before he passed and Joanne Woodward is producing.  It may be too indie for awards attention, but I think the reviews were very positive at the Toronto Film Festival last year, so I have high hopes for it.

    Keep your hopes high. A film needs no awards to prove its greatness – although in a fair world that greatness alone would gather some awards attention lol.
    I wasn’t aware of this project and it sounds really interesting. That’s seems like the kind of film Collette would really shine. I guess indie is her comfort zone and gladly so. 

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