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April 2, 2015 at 7:10 pm #185029
In 1999, AFI created a list of the 50 Greatest Stars in their opinion. I do think it’s a nice list but there are some worthy stars missing from their list. They could have done 100 stars in my opinion. Here are some of my choices.
- Bing Crosby
- Frank Sinatra
- Olivia de Hallivand
- Montgomery Clift
- Dorothy Dandridge
- Thelma Ritter
- Lucille Ball (probably the most legendary female entertainer ever)
- Sammy Davis Jr.
- Norma Shearer
- Helen Hayes
- Lana Turner
- Audie Murphy
- Joan Fonatine
- Yul Brynner
- Piper Laurie
- Natalie Wood
- Simone Signoret
- Robert Taylor
- Lena Horne
- Burt Lancaster
- Anna May Wong
- Rosalind Russell
- Gloria Swanson
- William Holden
- Dean Martin
I though AFI did have a good list but they were missing some very prominet stars who I felt deserved slots. I believe the AFI list should have been much bigger. Please feel free to add on more names or have an opinion on the names I provied. What do you guys think?April 2, 2015 at 7:18 pm #185031
What happened to these AFI lists anyways? I haven’t seen any in the last few years.April 2, 2015 at 7:22 pm #185032
What happened to these AFI lists anyways? I haven’t seen any in the last few years.
I believe they are satisfied with their list. They have only updated their overall film list.April 2, 2015 at 7:37 pm #185033
Its hard for me to choose which snub was worse but if I had to choose, Id go with Olivia de Havilland and Yul Brynner. But all of these stars deserved to be mentioned and more.April 2, 2015 at 8:29 pm #185034
Tyrone PowerApril 3, 2015 at 3:10 am #185035
AFI defines an “American screen legend” as an actor or a team of actors with a significant screen presence in American feature-length films whose screen debut occurred in or before 1950, or whose screen debut occurred after 1950 but whose death has marked a completed body of work.
For men, I think Rock Hudson should have been included. He is terrific as a dramatic actor in Giant giving an underplayed performance as a rugged man whose world view is changed by a society in which ethnicity and gender roles challenge the rapidly vanishing patriarchal values. There is a scene where he travels hundreds of miles and surprises his estranged wife at a family wedding. The camera holds on his face as he watches his wife and listens to the vows. In traditional cinema, this is normally the shot saved for the actress. The reversal and Hudson’s masterful performance makes the moment indelible.
Of course, Hudson was equally effective in comedy such as the classic Pillow Talk. The spliced bathtub sequence with Doris Day is still funny and quite honestly, a little hot. He is a memorable screen presence who is dismissed as an star because of his work in romantic comedy.
For women, Oscar winner Hattie McDaniel holds a special place in my heart as a great star of the early era of cinema. Remembered for her unforgettable work in Gone With the Wind, McDaniel was spectacular at comedy as well. She deserved Oscar recognition as the maid serving dinner in Katharine Hepburn’s touching Alice Adams. McDaniel often played maids and was memorably quoted at the time, “I’d rather play a maid than be one.”
Four times married, McDaniel was the daughter of a freed slave. She struggled to survive as an actress in a segregated society. She was not permitted to attend the premiere of Gone With the Wind in Atlanta. Yet, she had an active career with her final triumph in radio as yet another maid in Beulah.April 3, 2015 at 5:53 am #185036
Both Burt Lancaster and William Holden were ranked among the male stars in that 1999 list, England.
Other than John Wayne and Barbara Stanwyck inexplicably missing from the top 10 of their respective lineups, I really thought the AFI nailed their selections pretty well at the time; I can’t take issue with many of the choices.
But admittedly, I did begrudge the omissions of Myrna Loy, Rosalind Russell and Olivia de Havilland from the women’s lineup.April 3, 2015 at 9:58 am #185037
The AFI has struck a new low with their latest selection of the life achievement award. Steve Martin becomes the first recipient who has never even received an Oscar nomination in any category, let alone winning an Oscar. If the film academy snubbed Martin over the years for either his acting or screenwriting, there is no reason for the AFI to make it up to him in this way. He got his undeserved honorary Oscar and his undeserved Kennedy Center Honor. You are right to think I don’t enjoy Steve Martin in any media. Sorry.April 3, 2015 at 12:50 pm #185038
The AFI has struck a new low with their latest selection of the life achievement award. Steve Martin becomes the first recipient who has never even received an Oscar nomination in any category, let alone winning an Oscar. If the film academy snubbed Martin over the years for either his acting or screenwriting, there is no reason for the AFI to make it up to him in this way. He got his undeserved honorary Oscar and his undeserved Kennedy Center Honor. You are right to think I don’t enjoy Steve Martin in any media. Sorry.
Spoiler alert — benbraddock cheers as Steve Martin races up to the stage to accept his Oscar for his brilliant performance in Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk.April 3, 2015 at 6:32 pm #185039
If Steve Martin gives an oscar worthy performance
then i will applaud…he still isnt worthy of the AFI
Lifetime Achievement Award…February 27, 2018 at 1:20 pm #1202502182
When the poll was conducted, James Dean and Steve McQueen were deemed eligible despite their careers starting after 1950 due to their having already passed away, while Paul Newman, Jack Lemmon, Clint Eastwood, Sean Connery and Jack Nicholson were ineligible due to the poor manners of remaining alive at that point.
Other iconic male legends that had passed away and/or debuted by 1950 but didn’t get voted in included:
Abbott and Costello
Lon Chaney Sr.
Lon Chaney Jr.
Laurel and Hardy
The Three Stooges
Lee J. Cobb
Alan Hale Sr.
Joe E. Brown
Sammy Davis Jr.
Those deemed ineligible at the time that perhaps might have been included in the voting by this point would have included:
James Earl Jones
George C. Scott
Robert De Niro
Max Von Sydow
Billy Dee Williams
Samuel L. Jackson
Eligible women who were excluded:
Olivia De Havilland
Those ineligible at the time of the poll:
Mary Tyler Moore
Eva Marei Saint
Sarah Michelle Gellar
Victoria PrattFebruary 27, 2018 at 1:41 pm #1202502196
I wish Christopher Lee could win that Honorary Oscar.February 28, 2018 at 10:57 am #1202502813
Sorry, but he passed away two years ago, and they don’t give posthumous awards except when an actor dies after giving a competitive performance. I’m always angry at them for not having honored the great horror stars while they were still alive. But giving it after death would just be more of their self-glorification. They have lost the right to give any of them an award.
A “Nova” special in the seventies that I recall focused on a physicist who scoffed at the Nobel prize awarded him. He correctly said the work itself is the true reward. But at least with the Nobel Prize they do put their money where their mouth is. With the Oscars, Emmys, Golden Globes, etc. where they always omit key people from the “in memoriam” segments and always leave great names unrewarded, whenever they do honor a worthy subject, it isn’t to grant prestige to that person, but rather to give that prestige to themselves in linking themselves undeservedly to themselves.
Lee sure left a big impact on so many of the movie sagas (Star Wars, [Young] Indiana Jones, Lord of the Rings, James Bond (as The Man With the Golden Gun), Sherlock Holmes (as Holmes, his brother Mycroft and Sir Henry Baskerville in different projects, surprisingly never playing Professor Moriarty, as far as I know anyway), Airport (’77), Frankenstein, Dracula, The Mummy, Fu Manchu, etc.
Some of the other names that I failed to list in the AFI male omissions:
Duane Jones (purely on the strength of Night of the Living Dead)
and among the current stars:
And some very notable actresses from the silent era:
Maria Falconetti (The Passion of Joan of Arc)
Janet Gaynor (Sunrise)
Mabel NormandFebruary 28, 2018 at 11:28 am #1202502852
Jean SebergMarch 1, 2018 at 7:43 am #1202503337
Sorry, but he passed away two years ago, and they don’t give posthumous awards except when an actor dies after giving a competitive performance. I’m always angry at them for not having honored the great horror stars while they were still alive.
It makes me so sad tbh. I mean Lee deserved it so much.