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  • babypook
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    Please continue.

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    Jason Travis
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    Predictions (that could very well change):

    Best Picture (sigh)
    Best Screenplay
    Best Art Direction
    Best Costume Design
    Best Film Editing

    Possible:

    Best Actress (Amy Adams)
    Best Supporting Actor (Bradley Cooper)
    Best Supporting Actress (Jennifer Lawrence- yes I know she’s most likely in)
    Best Director (I have a feeling he might not make the final 5)
    Best Cinematography

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    BamaEd
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    Tis ok Jason. Not everyone agrees on everything. Your opinion is your opinion. People may disagree with your opinion but it isn’t wrong. I can see why people love the movie and why people wouldn’t.

    I put this on the previous thread, but I’ll bring it up here since it was at the end of the closed thread. I don’t think Rosalyn should be in her 40s or even her 30s. Irving mentioned how she was a young mother when they met. Her son is only about 5-6, so if she had him young, she’d be in her 20s still. So I don’t think it was that big a stretch age wise, unlike some of Blake Lively’s roles (The Town, The Green Hornet).

    Unless Saving Mr. Banks makes a big awards comeback, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Thompson left out in favor of Adams. If AH makes that big push, Cooper could sneak in (I liked him in this role).

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    Jason Travis
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    Thanks Bama lol- I really got heated, I know.

    I can see where your point about Lawrence’s age could make more sense; I guess I just found her uneven. Her scene in the bathroom with Amy Adams was good, and she is dynamite at expressing immediate emotion (something I also think Demi Moore was great at doing in the 90s ala Ghost, Indecent Proposal). I just found her scenes in the restaurant hammy and almost a make-believe mockery of someone else.

    I do think Cooper was more solid, and in the weak slate of supporting actor he could make it.

    The thing I’ve noticed is that the academy seems to adore Russell, so they may be smitten again with honoring this with a lot of nods. The Golden Globes certainly seem ready to.

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    BamaEd
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    Haha, this site does it to folks at times. I think her hamminess worked for the character. She came across to me as a nutty hot mess. 

    Cooper has a shot. No SAG nom could hurt. It all depends on how much the Academy takes to AH. 

    Does the movie have the inside track for the screenplay Oscar? 

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     I don’t think Rosalyn should be in her 40s or even her 30s. Irving mentioned how she was a young mother when they met. Her son is only about 5-6, so if she had him young, she’d be in her 20s still. 

    It’s astounding how far over the head that fact travels. 
    You still see people complain about her playing a middle-aged wife.
    The character is no more than 3 years older than Lawrence (at the most mid-20s). “Too young for the role” is baseless (and absurd, particularing when implying she was fine in SLP playing someone 10 years older than her, with far greater baggage). Lawd. 

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    Jason Travis
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    For some reason, the posts are still coming up delayed for me. Is ANYONE ELSE having this issue? I have tried switching browsers to no avail. I can’t utilize this site if I can’t see refreshed posts. Could it be my internet provider? Even when I try to check updates through my iPhone (same internet), it does not refresh. This thread says there are 9 replies- I am still seeing only 5. 

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    Some one esle should also get a nod amy could take meryls space emma getting good reviews with film good reviewed why leave her out of bad review film small if not support role juila and meryl could both get snubbed amy is highly lightley to be in two oscar winning films this year and good in both.

    i dont want another dull argo film some ones people watch please.

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    Jason Travis
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    Argo was far superior to American Hustle with a script that felt fresh and compelling, and characters you can relate to and care about. It wasn’t the best film of the year, but it certainly was one of them. It also didn’t feel forced to me like this one did. Perhaps the hype got to me.

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    You related to the characters in Argo? That’s a first. What were their names again?

    Imo, Argo was the Ben Affleck variety hour(s) and a pretty ‘meh’ one at that. The most insulting thing you can say about this film is compare it to ‘Argo’. 

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    Watch Argo a second time (or again).  It doesn’t hold up to repeat viewings.  Once you know the plot, the devices are the same as any other movie of that type, a man with a problem who needs to accomplish something.  It has a good blend of comedy and drama, and some choices are interesting, like the beginning, but its structure fits the Hollywood mold.  Yes, it’s well done for what it is, but there’s nothing extraordinary in the film, nothing profound in its depiction of the U.S. relationship with the Middle, nothing to suggest the long-lasting implications of our involvement there.  Sometimes people don’t want to see thing for how they really are.  That rings false to me and works as a crowd pleaser, a comfortable film that doesn’t challenge the audience’s views on the subject.

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    I’m seeing American Hustle tomorrow! And since we are talking about Argo…….. let me just say that Argo was “ok” at best. It wasn’t even on my top 10 films of the year. Highly overrated and the Best Picture win was absolutely ridiculous. lol anyway……..

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    You related to the characters in Argo? That’s a first. What were their names again?

    Imo, Argo was the Ben Affleck variety hour(s) and a pretty ‘meh’ one at that. The most insulting thing you can say about this film is compare it to ‘Argo’. 

    You related to the characters in Argo? That’s a first. What were their names again? 

    Imo, Argo was the Ben Affleck variety hour(s) and a pretty ‘meh’ one at that. The most insulting thing you can say about this film is compare it to ‘Argo’. [/quote

    I enjoyed the characters more in Argo, yes. And found them easier to follow and take an interest in. The characters in American Hustle- save Amy Adams- were not interesting or enticing to me. It was already a messy plot- so my brain was already unable to appreciate any of them. And I kept trying to remind myself “oh yes, this is a comedy”- when it certainly didn’t seem that way to me. I wish movies that are being marketed as Comedies were actually COMEDY, and not heavy dramas with “a little chuckle here and there”. American Hustle was anything but funny- much more of a serious storyline. It had the potential of being funny, for sure, but those opportunities were missed- especially the cons Bale and Adams could have induced on people.  

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    Jason you addressed posts being delayed earlier and I’m experiencing them too.

    Anyway, well I think that’s Sony’s fault for marketing it as a comedy. It’s not a straight up comedy but a very much a drama with very comedic touches so I understand your frustration. I think that’s also what’s happening with the general audience who goes to watch this and expecting it to be a mobster film or a heist film or a political thriller, and got something completely different: it’s a dramedy-romance-con film  laced in a 70s outfit with bad combover of Scorsese and Woody Allen’s wigs. 

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    [img]http://www.rugusavay.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/woody-allen-01.jpg[/img]

    I missed when this was being marketed as a comedy I guess. Unless i’m remembering incorrectly, Sony too sumbitted it to Globe drama and HFPA forced it into comedy.

    It’s odd to me such confused reaction ^. Watching the film, I got pretty much what I expected, narrative and tone-wise, from the trailers/teasers + knowing it’s Russell at the helm. To me, no marketing material I came across implied this was a comedy.

    Anyway, i rewatched the film, and Cooper, as I’d suspected earlier, has definitely got to be boderline co-lead/supporting. 
    Supporting campgain is not fraud. All three (Bale, Adams, and Cooper) can be considered co-leads and but the latter two can certainly make the borderline case, with Cooper being a legitimate supporting nominee. It’d look ridiculous if he were campgained lead when Bale is the true lead of the film.

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