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November 26, 2015 at 7:10 pm #199165
I mean could she be put into lead even though they want her to be supporting? Do you think she could win if that happened?November 26, 2015 at 8:30 pm #199167
I definitely think it could happen nomination wise, and in fact at this point I think it’s getting sort of likely, but I don’t think she could winNovember 26, 2015 at 8:30 pm #199168
A win is doubtful. It’s a performance that I and many others love, but definitely not one the Academy would typically embrace. Very internalized and subtle, if you don’t love the movie you’re probably left scratching your head at the praise. And I don’t even think Kate would have won for her performance if she hadn’t been overdue and clear about wanting it.
I would love for her to get one of those lead nominations, though. The depth of her initially confusing obsession can be seen and felt in her eyes, her breathing, the slightest of gestures, and by the end she evolves and matures so convincingly out of the emotional foundation their relationship built.November 26, 2015 at 10:38 pm #199169
At this point, I would even say that Mara would be even in danger of losing a Lead nomination, not to mention clear win in the Supporting category. The thing is that if they want to switch her to the Lead, they better do it ASAP. The category confusion in prolonged campaign, split with Blanchett over the votes (not to mention that role of Carol is arguably much “friendlier” to Academy voters than the role of Therese) can all lead that Mara be left out.
I honestly would like to see one of the Carol women win…November 26, 2015 at 11:19 pm #199170
No, not with Blanchett in the mix.November 27, 2015 at 1:23 am #199171
Both Carol ladies are not getting Lead Actress nominations. And if anybody thinks Rooney Mara is getting in over Cate Blanchett, you need to re-watch Carol and think again.November 27, 2015 at 2:00 am #199172
I hope she either gets nominated in leading or snubbed completely. I fucking hate category frauds. Even if her nomination in leading would have cost for example my queen Charlotte her long overdue nomination then so be it. That’s how much I fucking despise category frauds.November 27, 2015 at 5:53 am #199173
Therese is the lead character and Carol is the title character. They are both leads and ought to be nominated (or not) in that category. I’m increasingly thinking that they both could wind up being snubbed. I don’t want Mara nominated in the supporting category. I want real supporting performances to compete there, such as Elizabeth Banks in Love & Mercy, Diane Lane in Trumbo, Tatiana Maslany in Woman in Gold, Kate Winslet in Steve Jobs, Rachel McAdams in Spotlight, Joan Allen in Room (now that I have finally seen The Danish Girl I can say that Alicia Vikander belongs in lead; however, I think she’s going to be nominated in supporting. At least in her case the lead character is def. Eddie Redmayne’s Lili) (I didn’t include Jane Fonda, Diane Ladd or Jennifer Jason Leigh because I haven’t seen their films yet)
A question i have for those in the know: do academy members get their ballots blank or with names on the ballot in categories? A problem Mara could have with the former is that some could nominate her in each category, which would cost her a nomination. I think they have safeguards for anyone getting a double nomination (Barry Fitzgerald was nominated in both lead and supporting for Going My Way) these days. I’m not sure how it is done now.November 27, 2015 at 6:22 am #199174
Even if Rooney Mara does get pushed in Lead like Kate Winslet, because Lead Actress is so packed and how rare it is for two co-leads of the same gender to get in, I don’t think Mara will get in. But I think it’s better to be snubbed in a category where you belong than to get nominated by cheating your way down. Especially this year when we have actual supporting contenders like Joan Allen and Kristen Stewart waiting on the fringes.November 27, 2015 at 7:48 am #199175
Both Carol ladies are not getting Lead Actress nominations. And if anybody thinks Rooney Mara is getting in over Cate Blanchett, you need to re-watch Carol and think again.
I can re-watch it. I even want to. But I disagree with you. To me what Mara did in the film was much more special and interesting than Blanchett. And certainly, Mara is getting nominated at the Oscars – she can make it in lead.November 27, 2015 at 12:05 pm #199178
My idea was that the academy seemed to take a stand against category fraud and put Winslet in lead even though she and the studio didn’t want her there. I kind of liked that. I think they should vote against the category fraud more often. I was wondering if they would do that with Mara.
What are the Goldem Globes doing? Do they announce what categories they are considering people for prior to the nomination announcement? Or do they just put them wherer they want to?November 27, 2015 at 12:10 pm #199179
She won’t get in Lead at all. If she goes supporting, I hope she’s snubbed.November 27, 2015 at 3:19 pm #199180
I think Mara is getting into lead. I think both she and Blanchett can do it, but I’m ready for there to be a surprise- either both making it, or Blanchett getting snubbed, or both getting snubbed. I don’t think they will nom Blanchett and not Mara. I know that this is not the popular opinion, and I completely understand why this prediction is crazy and folks will think I’m cuckoo, but it’s what my gut instinct is saying (one that predicted Jonah Hill getting in for ‘Wolf of Wall Street’ all season and Bruhl getting snubbed, even when the opposite was happening literally everywhere else). Sometimes it’s right, sometimes it’s wrong (Mila Kunis getting snubbed in favor of Jackie Weaver- I totally thought Kunis had it).November 27, 2015 at 4:24 pm #199181
People are using the same argument on Rooney Mara, what they can pretty much use on Brie Larson as well. Hell even more, as Rooney is at least an Oscar-nominee. Larson is acclaimed, but she has no name in the business (I don’t care how buzzed she is right now). Oscar favorites like Lawrence or Blanchett will not miss out. Larson can. Ronan can. Mara can. Rampling can. But not those two.
I think both Cate and Rooney can make the cut. And both can win. For example, I don’t see Larson or Ronan winning.
10. TomlinNovember 27, 2015 at 7:58 pm #199182
The difference between Mara and Winslet is that Winslet was not running against another actress, leading or supporting. Voters are having a hard time sticking Mara in because she’s competing against the co-lead of her own movie. One of two things will happen:
1. Blanchett really only just won, so she’s a frontrunner for a nomination but not a win. They might campaign Mara a as a supporting so that ‘Carol’ has a better chance at winning SOMETHING.
2. The Leading Actress category won’t embrace contenders like Lily Tomlin or Blythe Danner or Saorise Ronan and replace with Mara and Vikander. But then that weakens the supporting race quite a bit…
They SHOULD nominate Mara in leading, but I have a hunch they’ll still keep her in supporting. Good call on the Golden Globes, though.
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