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Anyone else think “Philomena” could win Best Score?

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  • Daniel Montgomery
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    Imagine you’re an Oscar-voter. Let’s say you’re in the “Gravity” camp. Do you just check it off top to bottom, “Return of the King”-style? Maybe, but if you liked more than one movie during the year, you might want to spread the wealth. Sound, Cinematography, and Visual Effects are givens. Editing is probable. And maybe you decide to go with “Great Gatsby” or “12 Years” for Production Design.

    You look at Best Score. “Her” you might have given a vote for its screenplay, but chances are you’re not backing “Philomena” in any other categories (or if you are you probably know it’s unlikely to win those other categories). Plus, Alexandre Desplat has never won in six nominations. You could throw him a bone too. I’m not sure his name is listed along with the film on the official ballot or that they know he’s never won before, but even if not, it’s still a place to go if you like “Philomena” and don’t want it to be shut out.

    Thoughts? 

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    Cheshire
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    Can you also make a case for Thomas Newman’s score for “Saving Mr. Banks”. I know this is Saving Mr. Banks only nomination but Thomas Newman never won before and this is his 12th nomination (or something close too that) and not a single win. This could be the cold medicine talking but I have a hunch.

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    I could see it as a pleasant surprise. Seeing how last year they really spread the wealth of the nine BP nominees, this could be their way of honoring Philomena.

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    Halo_Insider
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    Haha, I made a minor case for this a little while ago. Definitely agree for the points Daniel highlighted. Original Score is a pretty open race, as far as I’m concerned. Gravity and Her have definitely made the biggest dent in precursors so far, but neither have had a definitive hold on the category, and I’m doubtful that voters are paying too much attention to what the critics or BFCA have to say here. It will really depend on how much the voters want to reward Gravity. Right now, it seems to be the frontrunner in all but 3 categories (Picture, Actress, and Production Design), but for a film to lose BP and still end up with 7 Oscars is quite a marvel, and I’m not sure that voters will go for that.

    I don’t think Desplat’s name would be mentioned on the ballot, and his scores generally seem too subdued for the Academy as a whole to take notice, but Philomena clearly has some passion behind it, and I’ve had it in 2nd place since the nominations came out. A win here or in Adapted Screenplay really wouldn’t surprise me. 

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    Renaton
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    I don’t think voters would know Desplat scored this film. My guess is, sure, why not? But I don’t think it will win. I actually think Philomena’s best chance is Adapted Screenplay, and even then, I still have it losing to 12 Years a Slave. In score, I think it will be between Gravity and Her (because the people who would support Her are more likely aware of the Arcade Fire involvement than the people supporting Philomena would be of the Desplat involvement).

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    Riley
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    Desplat’s name is not on the ballot, nor do I think that that would even
    influence voters much.  I just wrote an article calling into question
    whether Gravity can so easily sail to seven victories.  It
    could certainly miss here since voters generally want to spread the
    wealth I feel and especially since I prefer Philomena‘s score.

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    Renaton
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    I think that among the categories where Gravity is the frontrunner, the one it’s most vulnerable is actually sound mixing, the one where everyone assumes it’s gonna win anyway. Inside Llewyn Davis may not be much of a player at all, but it seems to be the kind of work they like to acknowledge here. Remember Walk The Line, Les Mis, Dreamgirls…

    Gravity might be vulnerable for score, but I don’t get much of that impression. If Her wasn’t nominated, I would probably think it would sail to a win here. 

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    Riley
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    How about sound editing?  Avatar and Life of Pi lost there to contemporary war and espionage movies.  Both also lost sound mixing.

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    AviChristiaans
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    And Gravity is not gauranteed the Best Cinematography Oscar, especially if last years somewhat controversial win for Claudio Miranda (Life of Pi) is anything to go by.

    The whole debate as to whether CGI/Graphic effects manupilation of visual photography should be considered as cinematography (or should be in the ssame category as downright pure camera/digital cinematography) has been gaining momentum (albeit from a very small group). There is a whole debate surrounding it.

    Suggestions have been to add a second “Best Contemporary Cinematography” category to the Oscars, to distinguise between digital photography and special effect/CGI and 3D photography.

    Interestingly, the American Society of Cinematographers has not really joined the debate, and i remember reading that many members (and veteran cinematographers) think the debate is one-sided since it has always been known that cinematography in film can take on many forms, originate from many forms. Even though an image in 3D was manupilated with CGI effects afterwards, it is digital.

    So we will see this year if Emmanuel Lubeski will continue the dominance of 3D effects in the Cinematography category, and if he wins, will he receive the same flack for  Best Cinematography for Gravity.

    Anyway, yes, i believe the tech categories will deliver a few surpises. Philomena could snatch Best Score (which would be deserved in my opinion), and even Inside Llewyn Davis can cause some surprise wins in Cinematography and the Sound categories.

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    Asgaroth
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    If voters want to spread the wealth, I think they’d go for Her in original score rather than Philomena. They clearly loved it to give it a best picture nomination despite it’s quirky unconventional nature. And since Hustle it’s vulnerable to suffer a Gangs of New York/True Grit fate of 0/10, voters might want to save it giving O’Russell’s movie an original screenplay win. But that would mean Her goes 0/5, and then might think that original score it’s the next place to reward it.

    I would definetely be very upset if Philomena wins this category. Gravity, Her and even Banks are superior.

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    Stardust
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    ^Her can be rewarded in Song, Score, or Production design. Philomena can only be rewarded in Screenplay or Score, and weather 12 Years wins picture or not, they’ll be sure to tick it off in screenplay just in case it doesn’t win any other major award (and upset is big longshot, but Philomena would be the beneficiary). Banks is not winning anything, nor should it be. 

    Gravity isn’t safe for Cinematography, Production Design, Score, or Sound Editing. 

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    benbraddock
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    Yes, i can see DESPLAT finally winning an oscar
    and sice Philomena is a best film nominee,  he and the film
    might be thrown a bone…
    Gravity might be the frontrunner in most technicals but oscar
    night could prove differently…

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    Gabriel
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    #136658

    I love Alexandre Desplat’s work, but if he’s going to win an Oscar I just wish it would be for a better score, and a better film too.

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    DamianWayne
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    And Gravity is not gauranteed the Best Cinematography Oscar, especially if last years somewhat controversial win for Claudio Miranda (Life of Pi) is anything to go by.

    Controversial? To who? Miranda practically swept.

    On the topic at hand, I don’t know. Maybe. The names of the tech nominees, though, really need to be added to the ballot. 

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    Renaton
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    People have been talking about how much cinematography is embracing other technologies and CGI, but that’s hardly knew. It’s going on for a long time, and truth be told, I don’t think there’s a backlash. It would be weird for a backlash to happen just as it is starting to become normal.

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