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  • Daniel Montgomery
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    I’ve talked to a couple of people who wonder if politics could be involved in the relatively poor awards results for “American Sniper” thus far, and I wonder if maybe that might extend to “Unbroken” as well. I don’t think either film is overtly political (and no one questions the validity of fighting World War II, certainly), but I wonder if continued US military involvement in foreign conflicts — and those conflicts stretching on seemingly endlessly — makes it difficult for Hollywood to embrace these kinds of sympathetic portraits of American military heroism.

    Any thoughts?

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    Cheshire
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    It wouldn’t be an oscar race without some group being pissed off about something, I think Hollywood should portray this subject matter both in a positive light and a negative light.

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    AviChristiaans
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    The fact that almost every year a War/Military influenced film gets released probably doesn’st help either. Same sweet, different coating of sorts.
    My view is, critics and other awards bodies might have their reasons for sporadically not honoring these types of films (consensus being a major culprit), but The Academy (and its voters – AMPAS) have never really shunned or snubbed films of a War/Military nature, especially when Americans are portrayed as heroic and inspiring.

    Besides, i 100% believe American Sniper and Clint Eastwood will be embraced by AMPAS voters at the Oscars. Nominations for Best Picture, Best Director, maybe Adapted Screenplay and a few techs. The preferential ranking ballot (and the passion voters exhibit with it) will carry it through. Unbroken i have no idea. Havent seen it yet

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    ETPhoneHome
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    I agree that it could be playing into the reception of American Sniper, but the thing that is really hurting Unbroken is the muted (and slightly negative) critical response. I think everyone is just kind of disappointed with the end product given the potential.

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    CAROL-CHANNING
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    I think they’re getting poor awards reception because they’re both films that are nothing new, stylistically.  We’ve seen them before.  I knew they would be non-factors and had no chance of being frontrunners since the beginning (even though I will say I think the American Sniper trailer is great).  People aren’t as wowed by the period, epic war drama or contemporary, sizzling war drama like they used to be.  Same goes for the basic bio-pics.

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    Choice Chayawat
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    babypook
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    I’ve talked to a couple of people who wonder if politics could be involved in the relatively poor awards results for “American Sniper” thus far, and I wonder if maybe that might extend to “Unbroken” as well. I don’t think either film is overtly political (and no one questions the validity of fighting World War II, certainly), but I wonder if continued US military involvement in foreign conflicts — and those conflicts stretching on seemingly endlessly — makes it difficult for Hollywood to embrace these kinds of sympathetic portraits of American military heroism.

    Any thoughts?

     

    Lol Daniel.

    Er, could you cite some examples of when “politics” is NOT involved? 

    It’s certainly influencing moi. Always does.

    Btw, these films could be more “sickening” than suspected, but they arent.

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    manakamana
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    I think that’s giving those films a bit too much credit. It’s not like they’re considered good films involving provocative statements and the members are offended by them or whatever, they just appear to be uninspired. “Sniper” always looked a bit like a “Lone Survivor” redux to me, and we’ve known before that directing is not Jolie’s forte (and the directors would have always had a more proven talent like DuVernay to go with). 

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    Nate
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    I think it’s a great question that has surfaced throughout Oscars’ history and most recently in the Iraq War era, as most war films during that time (Jarhead, Lions for Lambs, Stop-Loss, Rendition, etc.) haven’t done much at all box office wise and not much Oscar wise, with the very notable exception of The Hurt Locker. Oscar often gets accused of dodging politics, whether it’s more feel-good musicals winning over more polarizing dramatic fare or whether the winning films were edgy enough in their depiction of political issues. Personally, I tend to err on the side of the entertainment value primarily and the social message secondarily, so, with both of these films not being released yet, I can’t really say how they turned out. But I am curious for both how they perform at the Oscars and what the analysis will be regarding their performances.

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    babypook
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    I think it’s a great question that has surfaced throughout Oscars’ history and most recently in the Iraq War era, as most war films during that time (Jarhead, Lions for Lambs, Stop-Loss, Rendition, etc.) haven’t done much at all box office wise and not much Oscar wise, with the very notable exception of The Hurt Locker. Oscar often gets accused of dodging politics, whether it’s more feel-good musicals winning over more polarizing dramatic fare or whether the winning films were edgy enough in their depiction of political issues. Personally, I tend to err on the side of the entertainment value primarily and the social message secondarily, so, with both of these films not being released yet, I can’t really say how they turned out. But I am curious for both how they perform at the Oscars and what the analysis will be regarding their performances.

     

    You make some good points, although it’s aaaallll political. If you look at “war” films, or films with war in the background, or films with “war-ish” themes, Oscar loves them. Inglourious Basterds isnt Iraqui per se, but it did well and fairly recently. And as for musicals, they were forced to make them in the 40’s. Didnt hurt anyone’s purses, and yes, James Cagney can sing and dance!

    This is what I think, however: Chris Kyle is a self-aggrandizing ass hole. People have said to me, “somebody has to do it”. Ya, but does he have to be dating my BFF’s younger daughter???

    As for Unbroken, being of Asian ancestory, this film’s premise didnt thrill me. After watching it, it could have been far far worse. Not much to recommend in any event, a film which could have been far worse.

    O-kay then.

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    Amanda Spears
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    Every year, it seems regardless of politics good/great films (I cannot say since I haven’t seen either film yet) get left out. This year in particular seems crowded and at this point nothing would surprise me, we did see Extremely Loud & Incredibaly Close breakthrough at the Oscars late so anything’s possible all these snubs just lower there odds.

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