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  • Sab227
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    I think Batman Begins was a great beginning to the Nolan trilogy, of course The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises deserved major Oscar attention, but do you think that Batman Begins deserved to get major oscar attention like best picture, actor or director and so on

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    Bill Buchanan
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    Nope. It was definitely much better than the average superhero movie, but it was far away from the greatness of The Dark Knight which should have gotten a lot of “above the line” oscar nominations.

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    ENGLAND
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    It was a great start but nothing more in my opinion. The Villans play a huge part of the Batman comics and films and in Batman Begins, the villan was not a stand out for me.

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    babypook
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    Good lord, I cant remember the ‘villain’ in this one. I do recall how bored I was, however. Still, I really dont care for how the Academy dismisses sci-fi, fantasy, and many adventure films. Not this one though. Editing, sound, score, VX noms, maybe.

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    BrokenFan
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    I would rank Batman Begins above any of the recent Marvel movies (Thor, Captain America, Avengers (Yes), etc…) with the exception of Iron Man I which was damn good and first two Spiderman movies. It built a solid foundation for the arrival of Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises, and it introduced a new look the Batman franchise. Also it was less campy than the previous incarnations. 

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    Andrew Eng
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    ^I also would put Batman Begins in my top 5 superhero movies (along with Incredibles, Iron Man, TDK, and Avengers), and would’ve liked to see noms for Picture, Director, A. Screenplay, and Actor (Bale). 

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    BrokenFan
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    ^ Now that I look at that year’s line-up for Best Picture, I would have replaced it for Crash. Same with Director and Screenplay. 

    2005 was such a boring year for movies.  

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    Malick
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    ^ Ditto. Although few will agree, i think Batman Begins is the best of the Nolan trilogy.

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    BrokenFan
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    Hmm…I’m curious as to why that is, MalickFanboy. 

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    Malick
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    ^ I’ll gladly answer that Booga.

    Imo its the most tightly woven story of the 3. It doesnt possess the flaws that TDK & TDKR possess. It felt more believable and grounded. I dont care what anyone says, Kate Holmes is a much better “Rachel Dawes” compared to Maggie Gyllenhaal. Yes Maggie blows her outta the water in terms of who is the better actress. But who suits the role better and who actually looks like they could be part of a comic-book world, the answer is 110% Katie. BB flows so well, and its the closest to the Batman i knew growing up. And the TDK which most people think is the best felt like a film thats ambitions far exceeded its actual end result, if that makes any sense, and while Ledger was incredible his portrayl of Joker isn’t really all that accurate. And TDKR well to me that movie is just a mess. It was saved by its amazing score & Michael Caine & the editing. Basically when you grow up loving a particular comic-book character and you see a adaptation brought to the big scene you expect certain things. And TDK & TDKR are not at all how i recall Batman. Plus Nolan directing his actors so far away from the original source material bothers me heavily in TDK and especially in TDKR.

    Whats your favourite and why?

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    Miss Frost
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    ^I totally agree with your explanation Malick. It was a very good setup to Batman’s origins and background. Though I will say this film was a little bit boring in some parts, and besides Neeson, there really was no standout supporting characters like there was with Joker and Selina Kyle. Though overall I would’ve given this film a BP and Director nod in that awful year of 2005. Certainly was much better and memorable than Crash.

    Though the film is in no shape or form better than the great Dark Knight for me. The rankings would be:

    The Dark Knight > Batman Begins >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Dark Knight Rises (With the exception of Hathaway’s splendid turn, this film was just a hugely flawed film with a lot stupidity and unnecessities.) 

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    It was a great start but nothing more in my opinion. The Villans play a huge part of the Batman comics and films and in Batman Begins, the villan was not a stand out for me.

    That’s because Scarecrow and Ra’s al Gul aren’t top tier Bat villians. I thought including them was an excellent idea.

    Not my favorite of the Bat trilogy or my favorite Nolan film, but I’d definitely give this a few major Oscar noms. 2005 was definitely a horrible year for American cinema. 

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    Andrew Eng
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    and while Ledger was incredible his portrayl of Joker isn’t really all that accurate.

    Ledger’s Joker isn’t accurate? His portrayal is very similar to the Joker of The Killing Joke and The Long Halloween, two stories that were a big influence on TDK. His multiple choice past, his reasoning that the world is a joke, and that chaos/insanity is the solution to deal with the hypocrisies of law and order all come from The Killing Joke.

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    BrokenFan
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    @malickfanboy, My favorite has to be The Dark Knight, like everybode else. This movie was no longer a silly comic book adaptation, but a real drama with death, pain, suffering, and tests of morality. Not only it was cool, it was intriguing. Of course, it goes without saying Heath Ledger gave a tour de force, once in a generation performance in this movie that elevated it to new heights.  I was quite excited when I saw the trailer, and like everyone else, I was blown away when I first saw it on the big screen.  It’s a travesty that this didn’t receive Best Picture/Director/Writing (We all know that the line-up could have done without ‘The Reader’, a mediocre movie and an excuse to give Kate Winslet the Oscar, which was highly undeserved).

    For me, I would rank Batman Begins and Dark Knight Rises one the same level. They both have similar roots. I loved the Dark Knight Rises, but Bane was something they couldn’t fix. The fact that mask hid the face really bothered me (I know, right?). he wasn’t as menacing as I thought he would be.  Of course Anne Hathaway really, really surprised me from the first moment she slipped into “The Cat” mode. It had its weaknesses, but there was nothing to cry sin about like some people are making it out to be. I was disappointed that it got overlooked for this year’s oscars.  as As for Batman Begins, it was a solid foundation for the story to continue on and nothing more. I loved the Scarecrow, but I hated the Raz’al Ghoul storyline. It just seems so out of place. 

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    [quote=”ENGLAND”]It was a great start but nothing more in my opinion. The Villans play a huge part of the Batman comics and films and in Batman Begins, the villan was not a stand out for me.

    That’s because Scarecrow and Ra’s al Gul aren’t top tier Bat villians. I thought including them was an excellent idea.

    Not my favorite of the Bat trilogy or my favorite Nolan film, but I’d definitely give this a few major Oscar noms. 2005 was definitely a horrible year for American cinema. [/quote]
    Maybe horrible for in terms of nominations but King Kong should have been part of the Best Picture crew.

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