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    “Adam’s Rib” was released in 1949 and was nominated for WGA among other releases from that year but at the Oscars and Golden Globes the film was only nominated one year later and competed with films from 1950, losing Academy Award for Best Writing to “Sunset Blvd.”. Anyone know how was it even possible to happen? 

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    #151813

    Played in NY in 1949, but didn’t play in LA until 1950.

     

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    Jake
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    Since when these things don’t make a difference anymore? (I assume they don’t)

    Thanks for your fast reply. 

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    Until sometime in the 1970s, movies opened with staggered release dates across the country.

    High profile movies usually opened exclusively (or at most 2 theaters) in NY and LA. Most often, they opened in NY first, then LA, then rolled out to exclusive, big theater downtown runs in other big cities.

    The reason for this sometimes was because the studios had arrangements for top theaters (they top 5 majors actually owned theaters until around 1950). If they had a prime film playing at their first choice theater, they might delay their next top film. That might be what happened here.

    The most famous case in regards to the Oscars is Casablanca, a 1942 release because it first opened in NY in late 1942. But it didn’t get to LA until early 1943.

    Another one is How the West Was Won, which was in Cinerama and need theaters that had the capacity to play this format (usually only one per theater). They had another Cinerama release that was still playing, so for financial reasons delayed that til 1963, even though it opened in London and other big cities in 1962. 

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    I’m not the king of the rules, but I do think that a movie still has to play in Los Angeles before midnight on December 31 to be eligible for the Academy Awards that season.

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    It’s the one iron clad rule – only films that play at an LA County movie theater, advertised, for seven consecutive days starting no later than 12/31 are eligible. Been that way since 1934 (when they switched to calendar year).

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    Thanks a lot. Did they, in the early days, have two different settings when it came to Oscar ceremonies? In Oscar clips there is a lot of “New York” and “Los Angeles” talk.

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    #151819

    In a handful of the mid 50s years (when TV started) I believe they did a bi-coastal thing (which was very technically challenging in those early days of the medium) – before my time

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    That pretty much explains Audrey Hepburn mistaking her way when she won her Oscar. Most people believe she didn’t even know where to go because she was confused where in fact she was in a different place than presenter Donald O’Connor and that’s why she was receiving the statuette from Jean Hersholt. 

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    #151821

    No, the first of the few ceremonies to be bicoastal was the following year (1953, for 1952).

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    But she won in 1954, for 1953.

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    #151823

    Audrey was in New York playing in ‘Ondine’ on Broadway when she won.

    To confuse things further the nominees where read by Shirley Booth in Philidelphia???

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    Jake
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    Gary Cooper read the nominees while being on the movie set.

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    But she won in 1954, for 1953.

    Thx – I had my years mixed up 

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