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December 30, 2017 at 7:12 pm #1202452168
Why are interviews afraid to ask a question like did you ever get turned on during any of the kissing or sexual scenes. I would so ask that question. Hard to believe you could have not. Two very beautiful men 🙂December 30, 2017 at 7:40 pm #1202452178
Why are interviews afraid to ask a question like did you ever get turned on during any of the kissing or sexual scenes. I would so ask that question. Hard to believe you could have not. Two very beautiful men
There’s hardly anything less sexy than filming a sex scene.December 30, 2017 at 7:59 pm #1202452181
I understand that you can’t dump on one movie because it doesn’t really offer anything new. And that’s not the core of my criticism when it comes to this film. But yeah, it would be nice to, you know, see something new. The majority of “serious” movies about same-sex relationships involve “straight acting” people. That needs to change at some point. Or how about diving into how a significant amount of queer people alter their behavior and mannerisms to appear more “straight”? How about a movie where the characters don’t speak so ambiguously and vaguely about everything? How about a romance that’s not about self-discovery or self-acceptance but is actually about people who are out, have been there and done that and already been through the same-sex relationship ringer? It appears gay and gay-leaning characters can’t be the centerpiece of a drama unless they’re closeted and in the midst of self-discovery. “Weekend” (which is superior to this flick) was a decent example of something a tad different, but it was a very low budget and low-profile offering, and even in that movie they were closeted and “straight acting”. Like I said, this is a well done flick, but let’s not act like there is much ground-breaking here.
LangeWeaver2 said it perfectly. You are really reaching with some of what you wrote.December 30, 2017 at 8:04 pm #1202452184
Finally saw this movie that I’ve been stanning for months. I was really worried my expectations were way too high, but they definitely weren’t. It actually reminds me a lot of Boyhood since they’re both simple but incredibly emotionally resonating.
For Oscars, I think it deserves the following nominations
Best Adapted Screenplay
Best Supporting Actor (Stuhlbarg)
Best Song (Mystery of Love)December 31, 2017 at 2:18 am #1202452277
As I’ve mentioned, even when removed from the bigger picture I don’t think it’s anything special, good but not special. When added to the bigger picture it becomes slightly problematic or rather doesn’t really change the picture.
I do appreciate that this forum has become a place where you can have disagreements and debates with no head chopping. That’s both different than old Gold Derby and the entire internet.
No way this get snubbed for BP, btw. It’s a much more awards and audience friendly movie than Carol.December 31, 2017 at 7:37 am #1202452332
If this does not get a BP nod no way I would say it’s snubbed. We’ve had more meatier and quite frankly relatable films this year, whereas I felt manipulated by this film to pretend to be something it’s nice. It’s shot in Italy, Italy is a beautiful place, you’re not going to have an ugly vineyard. I enjoy romance as much as the next person but it has to feel authentic. Nothing about this film felt authentic. If Gods Own Country was snubbed that would be something worth shouting about. It also did not deal with AIDS (and that’s such a weird comment because there have plenty of gay movies in recent years who have not dealt with this matter) nor trauma. Collectively, the cast of GOC puts CMBYN to shame when comparing these two gay films.December 31, 2017 at 12:37 pm #1202452474
Quite honestly………..It’s literally gonna take me some time to get over this movie. I Don’t think I could watch it again for a long time, hit to close to home, reminded me of the experiences I had and the ones that I wish I had. My heart was aching. I am emotional just writing this. I still recommend it though, it was very well done and isn’t that the point of dramatic movies or stories, to strike something in you good or bad? Geeze the feeling I got from this quiet film, I was not expecting it at all. I agree that there is not a lot of new ground here, in terms of plot or subject matter, it’s not an epic film. It’s a film with a very simple story, that is so well acted and feels so realistic and human, that it brings something out in it’s audience members like me. There was no big disaster/tragedy plot points that brought this out, I didn’t feel manipulated, I felt like I was watching a real story. My personal opinion is that films do not make me feel this way often so I think it deserves it’s recognition.
December 31, 2017 at 12:47 pm #1202452475
- This reply was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by Inastrangerseyes1982.
If this does not get a BP nod no way I would say it’s snubbed. We’ve had more meatier and quite frankly relatable films this year, whereas I felt manipulated by this film to pretend to be something it’s nice. It’s shot in Italy, Italy is a beautiful place, you’re not going to have an ugly vineyard. I enjoy romance as much as the next person but it has to feel authentic. Nothing about this film felt authentic. If Gods Own Country was snubbed that would be something worth shouting about. It also did not deal with AIDS (and that’s such a weird comment because there have plenty of gay movies in recent years who have not dealt with this matter) nor trauma. Collectively, the cast of GOC puts CMBYN to shame when comparing these two gay films.
Lol you really love God’s Own Country don’t you?December 31, 2017 at 2:38 pm #1202452503
Just watched it! I feel very confused right now. I am not sure whether it was just good, very good or great. I’m probably loving it more than it deserves, because it really was a powerful experience. THE most powerful experience in film I’ve had this year. Again, I have no idea whether I’m just being manipulated by Guadagnino, but if I am, well, it’s nice to be manipulated in this way. It fel so intoxicating! The kind of Carol intoxication, but more. One of the most sensual film I’ve ever seen.
As of now, better stay balanced in my grade: 8/10.
Oh, and Chalamet was just, just great. I can’t wait to hear his name mentioned when Oscar nominations are revealed.December 31, 2017 at 4:59 pm #1202452559
I feel the same Marco, I’m not sure it’s best picture material, whatever that means, I’ve never been sure, but damn I was moved. I don’t recall being this affected by a movie in a long time, I cannot stop thinking about it today.December 31, 2017 at 5:13 pm #1202452565
Neither of these characters labelled themselves as anything in the movie, I am just guessing that there are probably a lot actors who might have some same sex attraction that just don’t really make it an issue. Gay men are assuming these actors are completely straight but who the hell knows but them. Sexuality is complicated.January 1, 2018 at 1:57 am #1202452690
The movie isn’t about identity. That’s another theme entirely. My criticisms of the film and of the relationship between the two main characters is not driven by that.
And yes, we all know there’s a decent amount of public figures who present themselves to the world in one way, but their private lives and their conscience are completely something else. However, I don’t think much of it has to do with being an actor or even being famous. I would randomly guess that maybe 40% of people in general are truly, thoroughly 100% straight or gay, with all their life-long attractions, arousal, desires, romantic instincts, romantic satisfactions, sexual pleasures, sexual behaviors, relationships, etc. going entirely and emphatically towards one gender. As I mentioned in an earlier post, the journey isn’t towards identity but rather towards gaining complete self-understanding, self-comfort, self-respect, building a stable and solid ego, and making sure not to manipulate people or yourself. As made evermore evident by social media, plenty of people who identify as whatever still don’t get to that particular place. But that stuff is also not quite what this movie is about.January 1, 2018 at 8:56 am #1202452875
Two other – unimportant – things to add.
I absolutely feel no need for a sequel – I think it works very well this way. Elio will never meet Oliver again and their precious summer will remain a magical, special memory. I mean, if I were Elio I would idealize my time with Oliver, regarding it as something extraordinary and unique, flawless and heavenly. While reality is different and if Elio and Oliver somehow ended up together in the future, things would be much more disenchanted and bitter (see Before Midnight; a great film and a magnificent trilogy, but I’m not sure that Guadagnino would be as gifted as Linklater at portraying a similar narrative).
On a side note: I was so happy to hear Antonia Pozzi mentioned in the movie! She has been completely ignored as a poet for so long; only recently she has been (and only partially) discovered. Still, she is completely unknown to the public, even here in Italy, only academics and poetry experts (not all of them, lol) know her name. She was a talented poet and a very unique and fragile human being – she ended her life at the age of 26. Her poetry, while not particularly complex or richful in images or intellectual concepts, reveals her extraordinary sentitivity in her contact with nature and human beings. Life – although her family wasn’t in financial difficulties – proved to be too rough and complicated for her to handle. I would suggest anyone to read some of her poems, for as unknown as she is there must have been some – partial, at least – English translation of them.
January 2, 2018 at 9:47 am #1202453712
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As far as a sequel nothing really would change. Elio will always love Oliver and Oliver cares for Elio but Oliver has chosen a different path.