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  • Daniel B.
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    While Marcia Gay Harden remains the sole person to have ever won an Oscar without a nomination at the SAG awards, making a snub at that precursor a virtual dash to anyone’s dream of an Oscar (sorry, Phoenix/Riva/Wallis/Weaver/Waltz/Adams), I was wondering if a snub at the Golden Globes had a similar effect on the Oscar race.

     

    While a snub at the Globes certainly doesn’t help, I was surprised by the large number of actors who weren’t nominated at the Golden Globes for their eventual Oscar-winning performance:

     

    1. Hugh Griffith, Ben-Hur (1959) Supporting Actor
    2. Sophia Loren, Two Women (1961) Lead Actress
    3. Martin Balsam, A Thousand Clowns (1965) Supporting Actor
    4. Shelley Winters, A Patch of Blue (1965) Supporting Actress
    5. Sandy Dennis, Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966) Supporting Actress
    6. Estelle Parsons, Bonnie and Clyde (1967) Supporting Actress
    7. Jack Albertson, The Subject Was Roses (1968) Supporting Actor
    8. Helen Hayes, Airport (1970) Supporting Actress
    9. Eileen Heckart, Butterflies Are Free (1972) Supporting Actress
    10. Robert De Niro, The Godfather Part II (1974) Supporting Actor
    11. Ingrid Bergman, Murder on the Orient Express (1974) Supporting Actress
    12. Beatrice Straight, Network (1976) Supporting Actress
    13. Don Ameche, Cocoon (1985) Supporting Actor
    14. Kevin Kline, A Fish Called Wanda (1988) Supporting Actor
    15. Geena Davis, The Accidental Tourist (1988) Supporting Actress
    16. Marisa Tomei, My Cousin Vinny (1992) Supporting Actress
    17. Roberto Benigni, Life Is Beautiful (1998) Lead Actor
    18. James Coburn, Affliction (1998) Supporting Actor
    19. Marcia Gay Harden, Pollock (2000) Supporting Actress
    20. Alan Arkin, Little Miss Sunshine (2006) Supporting Actor

     

    One reason there are far more instances in the supporting categories is because there are twice as many nominees in the lead categories at the Golden Globes, because of the separate categories for Drama and Musical/Comedy.

     

    This year’s acting nominees who weren’t nominated at the Golden Globes:

     

    1. Quvenzhané Wallis, Beasts of the Souther Wild – Lead Actress
    2. Emmanuelle Riva, Beasts of the Southern Wild – Lead Actress
    3. Jacki Weaver, Silver Linings Playbook – Supporting Actress
    4. Robert De Niro, Silver Linings Playbook – Supporting Actor

     

    As I had previously mentioned, a snub at the SAG awards is pretty much a nail in the coffin, and the only Oscar nominee this year to be snubbed at the Globes while still earning a SAG nomination is Robert De Niro. (side note: Wallis was ineligible at SAG, so her chances of winning without that key awards group support is stronger than Riva’s or Weaver’s chances).

     

    Since all of this year’s nominees in the Supporting Actor race are previous winners, could Robert De Niro be the most tempting choice as his track record has shown that the Oscars love him more?

     

    Arkin – 4th nomination, 1 win

    De Niro – 7th nomination, 2 wins

    Hoffman – 4th nomination, 1 win

    Jones – 4th nomination, 1 win

    Waltz – 2nd nomination, 1 win

     

    In a year where Daniel Day-Lewis is likely to join Jack Nicholson as having the most Oscar wins for male actors, perhaps they may want De Niro to join the ranks as well, instead of trying to decide which actor deserves the honor of being considered a 2-time winner.

     

    What’s interesting is if De Niro manages to win for Silver Linings Playbook, it’ll be the second time he won a Best Supporting Actor Oscar without a Globe nomination. In 1974, he won the Academy Award for his role in The Godfather Part II.  Also worth noting is that while De Niro was also snubbed at the BAFTA Awards this year, he wasn’t nominated at BAFTA for The Godfather Part II either.

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    Graeme O’Neil
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    Well, EW is predicting that DiCaprio is gonna win the Globe tomorrow, if he does, that’s really gonna throw this race for a massive loop. I kinda hope it happens because Oscar night will be insanely unpredictable then. 

    When it comes to De Niro, regardless of how this race shakes out, I don’t think he’s got much of a shot. No one is talking about him WINNING for this. There needs to be a pretty big groundswell for someone to win their 3rd Oscar…and no one is heaping that much praise on this performance. It’s more of a “thanks for acting again” recognition for De Niro. 

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    DD
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    Agreed. De Niro is my favorite actor of all time and he’s fantastic in SLP, but even I know he ain’t winning for this. At best, he’ll win SAG since every actor aspires to be him (and he’s never won a SAG), but PSH or Jones are winning the Oscar.

    The only way I can see De Niro winning the Oscar is if the precursors are dead split. But I have a feeling PSH or Jones will end up dominating the remainder precursors.

    I would be stunned if DiCaprio won the Globe tomorrow night for a non Oscar-nominated performance.

    Who was the last major Oscar snubee that won the Globe?

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    Miss Frost
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    That would be so hilarious if come Oscar night, Daniel Day Lewis, Sally Field, and Robert De Niro all win their third. Doesn’t really seem far fetched though when I think about it.

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    Trent
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    I could see him winning if and only if a combination of the following happen:

    -He wins the SAG (extremely possible, bordering on likely)
    -Hoffman and Waltz split the category-fraud vote
    -Voters realize that Arkin does nothing in Argo and is wasting a slot
    -Voters aren’t ready to give an acting award to a Spielberg actor (or two if Day-Lewis wins)

    If that happens (which is possible, but unlikely. I’d give it a 40% chance of happening) then De Niro wins either by default or by being dragged along in a Silver Linings sweep.

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    24Emmy
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    #83637

    Voters aren’t ready to give an acting award to a Spielberg actor (or two if Day-Lewis wins)

    What? Why wouldn’t voters be ready?

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    Mayi
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    [quote=”beausalant”]Voters aren’t ready to give an acting award to a Spielberg actor (or two if Day-Lewis wins)

    What? Why wouldn’t voters be ready?[/quote]

    No actor in a Spielberg film has ever won an Oscar, if I’m not mistaken. 

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    Daniel B.
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    I would be stunned if DiCaprio won the Globe tomorrow night for a non Oscar-nominated performance.

    Who was the last major Oscar snubee that won the Globe?

    Not counting the musical/comedy categories, the last occurance in a major category was in 2008 for Kate Winslet’s Globe-winning performance in Revolutionary Road, although that was the year the Academy chose to nominate her in lead for The Reader instead.

    Prior to that, the last dramatic Globe winner/Oscar snubee was Jim Carrey for The Truman Show in 1998.

    The last time it happened in Directing was in 1988 when Clint Eastwood won the Globe for Bird.

    The last time it happened in one of the supporting categories was in 1976 when Katharine Ross won the Supporting Actress Golden Globe award for Voyage of the Damned.

    The last time it happened in the Supporting Actor race was in 1975 when Richard Benjamin won the Globe for The Sunshine Boys.

    The last time it happened in Best Picture Drama was in 1963 (!) when The Cardinal won the Globe.

    So, yeah…I’d be surprised if DiCaprio won the Globe this year. Would love to see his costar Christoph Waltz win though! 

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    24Emmy
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    No actor in a Spielberg film has ever won an Oscar, if I’m not mistaken. 

    I know that, but who would vote against Tommy Lee Jones just to keep that streak going?

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    Mayi
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    People get caught up in precedent. I think Jones or Day-Lewis will break it, though.

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    That would be so hilarious if come Oscar night, Daniel Day Lewis, Sally Field, and Robert De Niro all win their third. Doesn’t really seem far fetched though when I think about it.

    This is why I’m not excited about this year’s Oscars.  Too many former winners, among other reasons.

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    [quote=”micky4″]No actor in a Spielberg film has ever won an Oscar, if I’m not mistaken. 

    I know that, but who would vote against Tommy Lee Jones just to keep that streak going?[/quote]

    Not only that, but Trent raised an odd point of PSH and Waltz dividing votes because they are both category fraud. Which doesn’treally makes sense. There isn’t a really a “category fraud vote” that goes to performers that should be in Lead. And the films have very little similar support within the academy. How would the fact that they are both lead in supporting mean they’ll divide votes only amongst themselves when the characters and the films are completely different? 

    I lke Trent, I think he’s an interesting member, but that entire post was way off. 

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    BenitoDelicias
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    Right now I have Tommy Lee Jones (not my personal choice) winning the Oscar.

    I bet Leo DiCaprio wins the Globe today.

    I don’t know when the voting closed for them, but this year with Oscar nods coming out before the Globes, and if that’s going to be the case in the future, people should be ready for actors to win a Globe (outside of Comedy/Musical) one of these days without getting an Oscar nod.

    At the same time I can totally imagine a creepy old foreign press person at night, in a dark room, switching votes after the Oscar nods came out so they wouldn’t pick a winner that wasn’t an Oscar nominee.

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    allabout oscars
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    With DDL being almost  ashoo-in
    joing the ranks of 3 time winners..
    I hardly doubt DeNiro is going to
    win his 3rd oscar as well….especially
    in supporting…Its a nice resurgence
    for him back to fine acting after all of his
    throwaway horrible performances in the
    last 15 years or so..but he wont win the
    oscar…i think the Globe tonight goes to
    HOFFMAN OR JONES..

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    allabout oscars
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    #83646

    I mis-typed.. I hardly THINK De Niro
    will win is what I meant.

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