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  • LaChienne
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    Detroit Free Press bruh. The fakest of news. Gave Unforgettable and Boss Baby three stars for being “incredible” and “edgy” but will knock a star off any movie if a female character doesn’t act empowered enough, even if she only has three lines. Incredible stuff.

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    I still think Julianne Moore and Nicole Kidman switched their categories in The Hours or they’re all supporting. Moore’s character is the only one that coincides with another characters timeline (I think she had more screentike than Kidman) While Nicoles character is only relevant to Meryl and Moores character through her book.

    I think Nicole had the least amount of screentime (20-25 minutes). Julianne had about 35 and Meryl was close to 40, so by technical standards, Meryl was the lead. Both Moore and Kidman were relevant to Meryl in different ways. But Kidman went lead because she was the root of it all and that train station scene helped even though it wasn’t even her best scene.

    To me this is the worst fraud. Many others can be explained as “they are not the title character” and such but this was about three women and Nicole had the least amount of screentime.

    I think some consider Michelle Pfeiffer from The Fabulous Baker Boys fraud too since the leads were the dudes and she was just supporting but I guess she was so big at the time it would have looked ridiculous if she went supporting.

    Was Annette Bening trying to get nominated for lead or supporting in Bugsy? I’m always surprised she was snubbed for that one while it’s the last one to date with two nominations in supporting actor…

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    Andrew Carden
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    Bening was pushed Lead for Bugsy.

    OSCAR FLASHBACK: Nicholson at the Oscars (1975) – One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest

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    Milk Money
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    Bening was pushed Lead for Bugsy.

    OSCAR FLASHBACK: Nicholson at the Oscars (1975) – One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest

    IIRC, it was a big shock when she was snubbed, too. Especially with all of Bugsy’s other noms.

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    RobertPius
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    Yeah Bening was considered a sure thing for a nomination for Bugsy. She was really the hot it girl at that moment in time after The Grifters and she had a whole bunch of other films that year plus was going to do Catwoman.

    She got squeezed out by Laura Dern whose Rambling Rose made a heavy last minute Oscar push and by Bette Midler who rode a Golden Globe win to a nomination for the flop film “For the Boys.” Midler was devasted by the failure of that film and at the Globes she still seems almost troubled and depressed about the film’s box office failure. (I guess it really did kind of end her film career at least in star driven vehicles made for her.)

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    If you imagine Meryl being nominated in supporting for Prada though, it doesn’t really do justice to the character. It may technically be a supporting performance, but it’s certainly not remembered as one.

    But can we clarify what fraud we think was ok or not?

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    Elazul
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    Thanks for the replies. I guess her role in Bugsy can be compared to Jennifer Lawrence’s in Silver Linings Playbook in terms of supposed fraud.

    What about Marvin’s Room and Diane getting lead actress nomination at Oscars while Meryl getting the Golden Globe nomination for best actress? I think Diane was the “real” lead but could be argued that Meryl was more than supporting.

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    Andrew Carden
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    Oh, I think Keaton and Streep were co-leads for sure, with Gwen Verdon the obvious push in Supporting.

    OSCAR FLASHBACK: Nicholson at the Oscars (1975) – One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest

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    RobertPius
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    Streep (very generously) asked the studio to push Keaton more heavily and hold back on her advertising. She had personally picked Keaton to co star in the film and liked her a lot and wanted her to get the nomination.

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    Elazul
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    Another one that can be debated is Laurence Fishburne in What’s Love Got To Do With It. Of course his character is essential to the story but I’m not sure if he has his own scenes without Angela. I wonder if anyone knows the amount of screen time they have in the movie.

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    I thought Robin Williams was like supporting than lead in Dead Poets Society. The film is about the group of boys influenced deeply by their teacher.

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    RobertPius
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    A person who lost out on a nomination by going for lead instead of supporting is Courtney Love in The People Vs. Larry Flynt.

    She even won the New York Film Critics supporting award and probably would have got in for supporting but she wanted to campaigned as lead and then got nothing.

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    Elazul
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    I thought Robin Williams was like supporting than lead in Dead Poets Society. The film is about the group of boys influenced deeply by their teacher.

    Interesting. It might have been a case of the Academy insisting on him being nominated for lead since the rest of the cast was no starpower, obviously.

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    Dan Jo Galicia
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    But still in my opinion Williams’s role was supporting. Maybe because he is prominent actor that is why he was pushed as Leading than Supporting.

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    Dan Jo Galicia
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    What about the case of Jennifer Connelly in  A Beautiful Mind? SAG nominate her Lead than Supporting.

    And I also thought Katharine Hepburn was supporting in Suddenly, Last Summer. Liz Taylor was purely the leading.

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