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  • joesilver
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    #141334

    For the people who are familiar with Katharine Hepburn’s work do you think she got the right Oscars wins based on her competition?

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    dude93
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    I will never understand Hepburn’s win for Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner… clearly a supporting role, and just even what she did in that movie was forgettable, so I don’t know why it warranted an Academy Award. Also the 1969 win bothers me, simply because it could quite easily have been (and should have been) a singular win for Streisand. 

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    Anthony
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    While I think Evans or Bancroft should’ve won over Hepburn, I don’t think she was one of the worst wins ever. It doesn’t exactly rank high among her other works, I can definitely agree with that. Despite this, there are two moments I love from her in this: where she defends Poiter and Houghton to Spencer Tracy and then her famous background reaction shots to the masterclass that was Spencer Tracy’s final moment on film.

    As for her Oscar wins, I would only let her keep her win for The Lion in Winter (no Streisand for me), but take away the other three (especially Morning Glory). I would only give her 3 total with a possible 4th for either The Rainmaker or The Philadelphia Story but she is in contention with other nominees that year. My three are:

    ALICE ADAMS

    LONG DAY’S JOURNEY INTO NIGHT (her best performance)

    THE LION IN WINTER

     

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    benbraddock
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    Actually, IMO, the academy got most of her wins completely wrong.
    1932…Morning Glory…thats OK with me…
    1936…she shouldve won her 2nd for ALICE ADAMS

    1967  shouldve been ANNE BANCROFT IN THE GRADUATE
    1968 I could live with the tie with STREISAND only because i consider
    THE LION IN WINTER  her greatest performance
    1980 shouldve been  DIANE KEATON IN REDS…

    So, Hepburn, at best  , should have 3 best actress oscars..

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    Baby Clyde
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    #141339

    I’d give her 5 but in different years.

    1933 – May Robson for Lady For A Day (Instead of Katharine Hepburn for Morning Glory)
    1935 – Katharine Hepburn for Alice Adams (Instead of Bette Davis for Dangerous) Possibly the worst Best Actress win ever.
    1955 – Katharine Hepburn for Summertime (Instead of Anna Magnani for The Rose Tattoo) One of the best screen performances of all time.
    1956 – Katharine Hepburn for The Rainmaker
    (Instead of Ingrid Bergman for Anastasia) Not a vintage year. Should
    maybe see Baby Doll again and haven’t seen The Rainmaker in 20 years but
    my notes from then give her the win.
    1967 – Edith Evans for The Whisperers (Instead of Katherine Hepburn for Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner). Best line up EVER!!!
    1968 – Tie: Katharine Hepburn for The Lion In Winter & Barbra Streisand for Funny Girl. If The Academy can do it then so can I.
    1981 – Katharine Hepburn for On Golden Pond.

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    one left undecided is 1962 because I haven’t see ‘Long Days Journey
    Into Night’. I do own it and will try and have been meaning to watch it for 3 years now). At the moment I have Bette winning and I’d
    quite like it to stay that way.

    The ’56 win is very weak and could easily give it back to Ingrid.

    Note on the OP can we please stick to the year for which the award was given rather than the year in which it was given. Hepburn’s first win is 1933 not ’34.

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    DominicCobb
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    I love Katherine Hepburn and all, but I’m not sure how I feel about the fact that she has four acting Oscars. It’s just the fact that it’s more than anyone else – I just don’t think she’s the best ever, despite how that makes it look.

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    streepfan
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    Right, she’s a sentimental favorite. There were collective gasps for her last 2 wins. She doesn’t really deserve 4. 3 yes.

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    Halo_Insider
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    So, having not seen it myself, what exactly does everyone think of her work in Morning Glory? It’s rare that I see someone defend the performance or Oscar win, so was it a bad result or just one that instills apathy?

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    Eddy Q
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    I’d love it if Hepburn had tied for Lion in Winter with Vanessa Redgrave for Isadora – two brilliant performances, and the former was a huge fan of the latter so she’d have been delighted. But I confess I haven’t seen Funny Girl.

    Her 1967 win should’ve gone to Anne Bancroft for The Graduate, imo. Haven’t seen Morning Glory or On Golden Pond, but she’d better be frickin great if she’s beating Meryl Streep in The French Lieutenant’s Woman (a toast to the days she used to work with good directors!)

    I know a number of people, including Hepburn herself, considered Long Day’s Journey her finest performance. I’ll have to check it out some time.

     

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    Gabriel
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    Seeing that list just reminds me how annoying the studio system’s handling of stars was. A few of these are clear supporting roles, but heaven forbid a star like Hepburn be relegated to the supporting category….

    I love Katherine Hepburn and all, but I’m not sure
    how I feel about the fact that she has four acting Oscars. It’s just the
    fact that it’s more than anyone else – I just don’t think she’s the
    best ever, despite how that makes it look.

    Agreed. She may have the most lead wins of any actor, but I’ve never let that brainwash me into thinking she’s automatically the best.

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    FYI:

    The TCM marathon this month is playing some of Katharine Hepburn’s Oscar nominations and wins (*).

    *”Morning Glory”: Thursday, February 27, 2014 @ 7 AM ET
    “Alice Adams”: Monday, March 3, 2014 @ 2 PM ET
    “The Philadelphia Story”: Friday, February 28, 2014 @ 9:15 AM ET
    *”Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner?”: Saturday, March 1, 2014 @ 12 AM ET
    “Woman of the Year” has already aired (2/13/14).
    *”The Lion in Winter” has already aired (2/16/14).

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    pacinofan
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    Katharine Hepburn gave many great performances so I do not mind her winning multiple Oscars but four was a bit much and many of her best roles were comic yet none of her Oscars were for comic roles. She was most deserving to win for “The Philadelphia Story” but she was beaten by Ginger Rogers in a completely boring, lifeless performance in “Kitty Foyle” (Ginger Rogers- also much better in comedies). Hepburn’s best comic performance was probably in “Bringing Up Baby” but she was not even nominated for that. Her best dramatic role was in “A Long Day’s Journey Into Night” but after Ann Bancroft had won the Tony for “The Miracle Worker” on Broadway and the precursor awards for her film performance there was no way she was losing. Out Katharine Hepburn’s four Oscar winning performances only her role in “The Lion in Winter” is amongst her best and I would still say Joanne Woodward gave the year’s best female lead performance in “Rachel, Rachel”.

    If it was up to me Katharine Hepburn would have won Oscars for “The Philadelphia Story”, “A Long Day’s Journey Into Night” and “Alice Adams”. This would free up her actual Oscar wins for May Robson in “Lady for a Day”, Ann Bancroft in “The Graduate”, Joanne Woonward in “Rachel, Rachel” and Susan Sarandon in “Atlantic City”.

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    JayDF
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    No…I would have given Katharine Hepburn 3 oscars…

    1932-33 “Morning Glory” would rank 2nd after May Robson.
    1935 ALICE ADAMS for the win. 
    1940 THE PHILADELPHIA STORY
    for the win. 
    1942 “Woman of the Year” would rank 2nd after Bette Davis.
    1951 “The African Queen” would rank 2nd after Vivien Leigh.
    1955  “Summertime” would rank 2nd after Anna Magnani.
    1956 “The Rainmaker” would rank 3rd after 1st Ingrid Bergman & 2nd Carroll Baker.
    1959 SUDDENLY, LAST SUMMER for the win.
    1962 “Long Day’s Journey Into Night” would rank 3rd after 1st Anne Bancroft & 2nd Bette Davis.
    1967 “Guess Who’s Coming To Dinner?” would rank 5th after 1st Edith Evans, 2nd Anne Bancroft, 3rd Audrey Hepburn & 4th Faye Dunaway.
    1968 “The Lion In Winter” would rank 3rd after 1st Barbra Streisand & 2nd Vanessa Redgrave.
    1981 “On Golden Pond” would rank 2nd after Diane Keaton.

    If I were to keep her number of 4 wins as 3 solo wins and 1 tie.  I would give her half oscar to “The African Queen” and tie her with Vivien Leigh.  Would be tempted to give it to “Long Day’s Journey Into Night” if it weren’t for Bette Davis being in the way.
     

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    I think she should have been a lone winner for Lion in Winter. Id say she deserved 2 Oscars. To be honest, I think Meryl is the only actress who should have 4 Oscars based on the competition she had.

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    pacinofan
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    Whoops! Maybe I would give her fours Oscars. I forgot about “Summertime”. “The Rose Tattoo” is a very silly film based on a very silly play (besides “A Streetcar Named Desire” and “Cat on a Hot Tin Roof” most of Tennessee Williams’ plays are very problematic) and Anna Magnani suffers a bit from that. I would give best actress to Heprbun and then give Magnani best actress for “Wild is the Wind”.

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