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  • Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    I for one, believe that the animation bias that The Oscars and The Emmys have is stupid. Just because a film is animated doesn’t mean that it is automatically affiliated with childrens’ media, and even if it is, you can still have a really great children’s animated film (Toy Story and Shrek come to mind).

    Anyways, that’s just me. Do you think that Oscars/Emmys should take animation more seriously, or do you think that the best is only reserved for those you are “live-action”.

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    Riley
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    Do you want them nominated for production design?  Do you think that Ratatouille should have been nominated for Best Picture?  What exactly are you getting at here?

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    Well the movie industry isn’t making a very good case lately. Last year of the eligible animated movies, zero had a 75/B average on Metacritic. The previous year, there was one and it was at exactly 75. This year there are currently zero, though my #1 must-see film The Wind Rises hopefully increases that…though even if it were live-action it would have the foreign bias against it, so.

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    KT
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    There are very few animated films worthy of a Best Picture nomination.  Toy Story and Shrek, in my opinion, were not.

     

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    CanadianFan
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    I think animation is slowly gaining more respect as the years go by. It’s a shame that there has been a decrease in quality as this happens.

    I will say that “Princess Mononoke” and “Grave of the Fireflies” are as good as any live-action film I’ve ever seen. 

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    babypook
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    I for one, believe that the animation bias that The Oscars and The Emmys have is stupid. Just because a film is animated doesn’t mean that it is automatically affiliated with childrens’ media, and even if it is, you can still have a really great children’s animated film (Toy Story and Shrek come to mind).

    Anyways, that’s just me. Do you think that Oscars/Emmys should take animation more seriously, or do you think that the best is only reserved for those you are “live-action”.

    I’m not entirely sure what you mean, but if you’re saying that Animated films are relegated to the ghetto which is it’s category too often, I agree. It’s STOOPID.
    One ‘argument’ I hear all the time is. “Animated films have their OWN category so that’s where they should stay”. Uh-huh. I’ve never heard that point from anyone with higher than a double-digit IQ; or at least, anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together. Pardon my vehement bias, but, there it is.   
    Animation is simply another form of the same intent, a different medium perhaps, but equal to, and in many cases, better than the films vying for the top prizes.   

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    BrokenFan
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    I agree. I have to wonder what is happening with animated movies lately? Even Pixar is losing quality. I did not like Brave or Monsters University as much as I would have liked to. 

    In terms of BP, I would have nominated Princess Mononoke, Wall-E, Spirited Away, The Incredibles (yes) and Finding Nemo. They’re all phenomenal films in my opinion and would have easily been competitive in those respective years.  

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    Graeme O’Neil
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    I’m not a big fan of the Animated Feature category. A good movie is a good movie. I think the creation of the category pretty much kills the chance of an animated film ever winning Best Picture. At least Toy Story 3 and Up broke into the (expanded) Best Picture race. 
    Up, Toy Story 3, Finding Nemo, The Lion King, Wall-E all should have been contenders for the big award.

    This year, it seems like a very weak film is going to win the Animated Feature award. Hopefully something great comes out Thanksgiving. 

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    allabout oscars
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    I think animation is taken very seriously by the movie going public
    and certainly with the academy..After all, it has its own category…What I am against
    is animated films showing up in the best picture race ….

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    Graeme O’Neil
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    .What I am against
    is animated films showing up in the best picture race ….

    Why? If it deserves to be there, why shouldn’t it be? 

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    allabout oscars
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    Then why does it ahve its own category???
    makes no sense to me…

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    Beau S.
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    Answering the question in the title of this thread: all films should be taken seriously until proven stupid.

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    delerian
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    Then why does it ahve its own category???
    makes no sense to me…

    I think this is the crux of the issue. If animation was as respected as live action, there would be no excuse to segregate it into a special category. But, at the same time, the creation of a category for films that don’t typically rate as high as regular BP noms indicates that AMPAS is trying to help out animated films. In my opinion, I’m happy with the status quo. As much as I would like to desegregate animated films and run them in the horserace with everything else, I don’t think they would fare very well. The current system gives a tremendous incentive to developing high quality animated films. And if an animated film is truly outstanding, it can get nominated for BP and possibly win. There is a bias against an animated film winning BP, but I think the additional animated film category balances that out.

    With the recent degradation of Pixar and the retiring of Hayou Miyazaki, there might not be very many animated films that will be able to compete for BP in the future. But the animated film category might spur future developers. I think killing the animated film category right now might be very damaging. You could say that it isn’t fair that animated films get their own category, but I think that this is a field that would benefit everyone if more quality films were produced. As such, it should be left as it is unless there is some compelling evidence that a change is required.

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    M H
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    I find it interesting that people who complain about animated features having their own category never seem to be upset that documentaries, shorts, or foreign language films also do. 

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    nkb325
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    do you guys think an animated movie will ever actually win? I could see a scenario, fairly far in the future, when theres not that exciting a year for live-action movies, and there somehow is this breakout phenomenon of an animated movie that it could possible win. I think it will take a long time though.

    Also, how long will it take before live-action movies get so much CGI that they become considered animated movies. A movie in an animated world with one live action character digitally entered could be considered animated. So then someday I wouldn’t be surprised if whole worlds in movies are computer animated with just some live actors. Some day will that count as animated?

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