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Does the way they count ballots at the Oscars still allow for ties?

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  • RobertPius
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    #116094

    If so was there one since the famous one in 1968?

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    drenja
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    Well there was a tie this year for Best Achievemnt in Sound Editing with “Zero Dark Thiry” and “Skyfall” so yes.

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    adamunc
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    #116097

    There was also a tie in the 1994 awards for Live Action Short. I think the only category that can’t have a tie is Best Picture (because of the preferential voting in that category).

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    Bill Buchanan
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    You used to have a tie if your vote count ended within 3 votes of another nominee. Now, you have to have the exact same number of votes to tie (that’s how we know it was Streisand’s own vote that allowed her to tie with Hepburn, she’d been invited into AMPAS that same year).

    So yes, you can have a tie in any category except best picture, where I think it is mathematically impossible to get a tie. 

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    Scottferguson
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    Ties are statistically very unlikely – I did a rough guess on the likelihood on one in an all-voter category with 5,000 + votes – it’s something like 1 in 1,000.

    Anytime there is preferential voting – as in all nominations and now for best picture – the system eliminates that chance.

    And as was said earlier, for nearly 80 years a tie means exact same vote, though in initial years they had a 3 vote margin (at a time with very few voters). Even then it only happened a couple times.    

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    Well there was a tie this year for Best Achievemnt in Sound Editing with “Zero Dark Thiry” and “Skyfall” so yes.

    I remember during that ceremony, me, my dad and my mom were like “whoa!” that there was an actual legitimate tie.

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    Bill Buchanan
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    This years tie helped spice up the ceremony so much. I was kinda shocked. It was the first one in 17 years, right?

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    Scottferguson
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    The four ties since the Academy had multi-thousand members include only 2 in which all members voted – this year’s and the Streisand/Hepburn one. The other two were in shorts categories, when maybe 100-200 members voted (as was the case until recently when they have been sent to all members).

    Since 1953 (50 years) there have been about 1000 all-members voting categories. It has happened twice. In both cases, it was probably a bit more likely because of the closeness of the race among the nominees (particularly for the sound editing last year – my guess is all 5 nominees received somewhere around 1100 votes, maybe 100 one way or the other).

    So two times in 1000 chances – that is the high end of statistical likelihood.  

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