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  • RobertPius
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    #193322

    The Eddie Redmayne thread got me thinking. How did it happen before in the cases where it did. I understand Tom Hanks since Forrest Gump was such a pop culture phenemenon at the time but how about the other three?

    Hepburn, Tracey, Jason Robards? 

    I guess Robards didn’t have much competition. (Peter Firth was in a film they were ambivilent about. Schell and Guiness had won before. Robards had a bigger role than Schell and Guiness may have suffered from an anti sci-fi bias.)

    Theories?

    I really doubt double wins in consecutive years are possible nowadays with the increased internet scrutiny of history.       
        

      
      

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    #193324

    I really doubt double wins are possible nowadays with the increased internet scrutiny of history.       

    You mean consecutive multiple winners. Becuase we have multiple winners. No one consecutive since Tom Hanks in the early 90’s.

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    RobertPius
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    #193325

    Right Peaceful. I meant in a row. 

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    tennisfreak
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    I suspect Spencer Tracy and Luise Rainer benefitted from some form of bloc voting by MGM in the 30’s. For Hepburn, it came from sentiment for the first win and the Academy (particularly older members voting for one of their own with some smattering of younger respecting Hepburn for her integrity) being won over with one of her most impressive performances in the latter.

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    #193327

    All Oscar wins are under internet scrutiny. I think Christoph Waltz’s second Oscar win is atrocious. Sure he is better than Arkin but no one else in his category.

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    Gone_Guy
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    #193328

    This also makes me wonder how close it has happened again since Tom Hanks.

    I think the closest was Jennifer Lawrence? She went into the Oscar race with the Globe and BAFTA, while Lupita Nyong’o came in with the SAG and Critics Choice.

    I don’t think Jeff Bridges or Penelope Cruz were even close to winning a second the year after they won.

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    ENGLAND
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    #193329

    I thought Jeff Bridges and Collin Firth should switch Oscars. Jeff Bridges was outstanding in True Grit imo and better than Firth.

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    Joe Burns
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    Jenniffer Lawrence was definitely the closest in recent years. 

    Yes, I would agree that Hepburn won on merit the second time, although apparently the Academy was just as impressed with Streisand.  Also agree with your reasoning on Robards. 

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    Mladen Vukcevic
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    #193331

    I am not sure anyone can pull consecutive Oscars these years. I mean, the industry grew out of proportion and the number of people aiming at those awards is bigger than ever. Simply, the thing is that Academy is about spreading the goods past years. How many times we have talked “it is early”? This year in leading actress race we have only previous winners, three of which won in the past three years. And the most heard argument is that if that would be the line-up, the Oscar will go to someone else (Mulligan). Simply, too many names to constantly choose one (unless of course you are Meryl, but even that doesn’t bring you the wins).

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    OnTheAisle
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    I am not sure anyone can pull consecutive Oscars these years.

    I disagree. Russell Crowe came pretty damn close in 2001 and 2002 starring in two consecutive Best Pictures Gladiator and A Beautiful Mind.

    After winning the Best Actor BAFTA for A Beautiful Mind, Crowe’s acceptance speech included an Irish poem which caused the speech to run over his allloted time. The director of the televised award ceremony Malcolm Gerrie cut the reading to meet time commitments. According to reports, Crowe went ballastic. He allegedly had his staff bring Gerrie to a backstage area. Face to face, Crowe shoved Gerrie, shouted obscenities and threated the director. Crowe then apparently kicked three chairs across the room and left.

    Reports were fairly consistent that the behavior provoked Academy voters to turn a favored eye to Denzel Washington who was initally considered an also ran for Training Day.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    I remember reading either on Tom’s book or Inside Oscar, that one of the reasons for Robards’ consecutive win was because everybody was madly in love with him for a Broadway show he was at the time of voting. He wasn’t present to accept the award because he was doing the play. He was just seen as this incredible actor and with little competition, they had no problem giving this actor they were going ga-ga over anyway a second Oscar…..or something like that. I read it way too long ago.

    Crowe and Lawrence definitely came very, very close.  

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    I thought Jeff Bridges and Collin Firth should switch Oscars. Jeff Bridges was outstanding in True Grit imo and better than Firth.

    I think Colin Firth should have a number of zero Oscars on his credit. A numerous number of better actors have nothing…. his performances are mostly okay, but I don’t see him as a standout performer. I think his performance is definitely nomination worthy for “A Singe Man”, but he’s very bad in “The King’s Speech”. I’m fine with Jeff Bridges having an Oscar.

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    OnTheAisle
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    I remember reading either on Tom’s book or Inside Oscar, that one of the reasons for Robards’ consecutive win was because everybody was madly in love with him for a Broadway show he was at the time of voting. He wasn’t present to accept the award because he was doing the play. He was just seen as this incredible actor and with little competition, they had no problem giving this actor they were going ga-ga over anyway a second Oscar…..or something like that. I read it way too long ago.

    As I recall Robards opened on Broadway in Eugene O’Neill’s A Touch of the Poet just as the nomination ballots for his eventual win in All The President’s Men were mailed.

    His consecutive win for Julia was due to limited competition. Fellow nominees Schell, Robards and Guinness had each won previously.

    People hated what director Sidney Lumet had done adapting beloved stage play Equus to the screen. Even long overdue Richard Burton couldn’t win for a terrific performance. Firth was out.

    Barishnikov was not an actor. His contribution to The Turning Point was his magnificent dancing.

    Since Schell’s work in Julia amounted to a cameo, Alec Guinness as Obi Wan Kenobi in Star Wars was the closest competitor. Actors were vocally opposed to the special effects laden work and realistically considered it a threat to their craft and employment opportunities.

    Robards won a second Best Supporting Actor Oscar for a good performance in an exceptional film.

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    [quote=”Vincelette”]

    [quote=”ENGLAND”]

    I thought Jeff Bridges and Collin Firth should switch Oscars. Jeff Bridges was outstanding in True Grit imo and better than Firth.

    I think Colin Firth should have a number of zero Oscars on his credit. A numerous number of better actors have nothing…. his performances are mostly okay, but I don’t see him as a standout performer. I think his performance is definitely nomination worthy for “A Singe Man”, but he’s very bad in “The King’s Speech”. I’m fine with Jeff Bridges having an Oscar.
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    I abhorred the shit out of The King’s Speech. So boring. But I think Fifth deserved his Oscar even though my personal pick was James Franco.
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    Franco, Dicaprio, Gosling, Craig Roberts were all so superb and they went with the most boring actor of all time instead. I have no words.

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    RobertPius
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    #193338

    They must have really hated Equus. In retrospect it sort of seems like Richard Burton and Peter Firth should have won. Burton had no wins after 7 nominations and he lost to a comedic performance by a first time nominee. Firth was a Tony Nominated performance and the showiest (literaly I guess) of the nominees. Plus it was a lead performance in a supporting category and he was British. They loved the Brits back then (see Glenda Jackson). It sort of seems like statistically they had a lot going for them.

    I always sort of liked the film. (granted I only ever saw it on TV. I can imagine in a theatre those speeches delivered in monotone must have been ponderous)

     

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