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  • benutty
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    #206518

    Okay, but let’s discuss Feinberg’s recent piece titled “5 Ways the Academy Can Improve the Show

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    1. Guarantee 10 best picture nominees — from through the year
    “… it could announce two separate voting periods for its best picture category: one recognizing five films released between Jan. 1 and June 30, the other recognizing five films released between July 1 and Dec. 31.”

    2. Tighten the Academy membership rolls
    “… withholding voting priveleges from people who haven’t verifiably worked on a film in, say, the past 10 years.”

    3. Implement sensible restrictions on second-round voting
    “Limit members, in the second round, to the same categories they were limited to in the first.”

    4. Arbitrate the acting categories
    “The actors branch of the Academy… should determine a certain percentage of run time (perhaps 50 percent) below which a performance automatically would be considered a supporting role and above which it automatically would be considered a leading one.”

    5. Get the shorts off the telecast
    “… without boring people to death during parts of a telecast that runs too long, too late and features too many awards. The best fix: Present the animated short, documentary short and live-action short Oscars 30 minutes prior to the televised portion of the ceremony.” 

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    #206520

    Feinberg LOST all credibility with # 5. The Oscars are first and foremost a celebration and shorts are a part of cinema, often honoring younger filmmakers who fought just as much for their films to get made. So a big fat NO!

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    DamianWayne
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    1. This will never work or fly with the Academy.
    2. So people who have retired can’t vote anymore? That sounds stupid.
    3. This I agree with.
    4. Using screentime to determine a lead/supporting role could get messy. Pass.
    5. LMAO hell no. Get rid of Original Song instead. This useless category only shows its relevance every 15 years or so.

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    benutty
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    I have a problem with every single one of this “improvements,” all of which can be summed up by pointing out how arbitrary each suggestion is.

    1. Dividing the BP field into 6-month timelines is just as arbitrary as the 12-month timeline we already use. A film’s merit has absolutely zero to do with when it is released. You know what this creates? Studios lobbying for/against which half of the year they’ll release which films, and they’ll ultimately put them at the end of those 6 months right before voting. Just like they do now in the 12-month period. 

    2. The language he uses in his own argument (“in, say, the past 10 years”) connotes how arbitrary his argument is because HE isn’t even sure if 10 years is the right cut-off. Who, truly, is to say that it’s the 20-years-out-of-the-business voter that is the problem and not the voter that just got membership last year? Absurd.

    3. Advances cronyism, which is already a rampant problem in MANY if not all of the categories’ nomination process.

    4. The thing about “lead” and “supporting” is that the structure of story has nothing to do with the amount of screentime a character is given.

    5. I guess to Feinberg, the shorts are the boring part of the telecast. I assure you that to those of us who seek out the shorts every year, they’re not. Personally, I think listening to the Best Director acceptance speech is routinely the most boring and drawn out. Or listening to someone that isn’t the original singer perform one of the nominated songs. 

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    Marcus Dixon
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    He forgot “combine the sound categories” and “expand makeup/hairstyling to five.” Those are both MUST-dos.

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    He even comes up with incorrect facts.

    For example, no nominee for best visual effects that also was nominated for best picture ever has lost to a nominee for best visual effects that wasn’t nominated for best picture.

    The Rains Came, The Thief of Baghdad, Reap the Wild Wind, Thirty Seconds over Tokyo, Wonder Man, Tora! Tora! Tora! all won visual effects against BEST PICTURE NOMINEES OR WINNERS. 

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    Rooney Moore
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    Those so called “little” and below the line categories should never ever be destroyed as long as we have FOUR acting categories.

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    Eddy Q
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    1. Everything benutty said

    2. If a member really is that disconnected from the film world they’re unlikely to vote.

    3. Idealistically this makes sense, but in reality there’ll be a lot of name-checking wins and political issues within the branches. Also it would be hypocritical of me to criticise the Academy for voting in categories they have no expertise in when I myself don’t either, yet have such strong opinions about who should win that I think I know better. A comparison would be that I, as a violinist, could still judge the merits or demerits of different trumpet performances, even though I can’t play the trumpet. No I’m not qualified to teach trumpet or adjudicate a trumpet competition, but I can still make sound musical judgments regardless. It’s the same with the Academy voting in all film categories.

    4. Feinberg’s suggested 50% is way too high – there are co-lead performances with less that 40% screentime, like Cooper and Adams in American Hustle (Yes everyone, Cooper is a lead in that film!) And you don’t determine lead from supporting just from screentime. That’s lazy as shit.

    5. Would they actually improve their ratings by ditching the shorts in the telecast? People who want to watch the whole show will watch it regardless, and they might even be interested. Others might tune in and out, but they’d do that anyway because they don’t care that much, especially when there aren’t many big blockbusters nominated.

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    I LOVE how people are trying to be politically correct, lol. The shorts are boring whether you want to accept it or not and they should be awarded previously as he says. 

    Get rid of the Original Song category? Really bitch, that category is the only thing that brings life to the eventless shows. Last year would be hella boring for example if we didn’t have those 5 nominees (+ Lady Gaga & NPH’s opening song) I didn’t want to see Innaritu making 3 thanks speeches and neither did a great number of the general public. 

    I don’t agree with the first two though.  

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    DamianWayne
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    The shorts are boring only to people who don’t watch them. And yes really bitch, Original Song needs to go.

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    Rooney Moore
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    I LOVE how people are trying to be politically correct, lol. The shorts are boring whether you want to accept it or not and they should be awarded previously as he says. 

    Get rid of the Original Song category? Really bitch, that category is the only thing that brings life to the eventless shows. Last year would be hella boring for example if we didn’t have those 5 nominees (+ Lady Gaga & NPH’s opening song) I didn’t want to see Innaritu making 3 thanks speeches and neither did a great number of the general public. 

    I don’t agree with the first two though.  

    That’s why we have People’s Choice awards for folks like you.(Is it today?) Lots of songs, celebrities making fun of each other, sheer fun. They only present the “cool” categories with cool winners on telecast, too.

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    That Don Guy
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    #206530

    Didn’t the Academy try to get rid of the Documentary Short category – I think the reasoning was, “Between the eligibility rules and the fact that most short documentaries end up on TV, there just aren’t that many eligible films” – and the documentary branch threw a collective fit?

    Here’s an idea: start the ceremony early, but have the “main” part of the show start at 8:30 as usual, with the previous 30 minutes as a red carpet show, and have the “preliminary” ceremony (with, for example, the shorts categories and the Honorary Oscars) aired on one of each ABC station’s subchannels, plus, say, ABC Family, for the viewers with systems (e.g. DirecTV; U-Verse) that don’t carry subchannels?

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    I LOVE how people are trying to be politically correct, lol. The shorts are boring whether you want to accept it or not and they should be awarded previously as he says. 

    Get rid of the Original Song category? Really bitch, that category is the only thing that brings life to the eventless shows. Last year would be hella boring for example if we didn’t have those 5 nominees (+ Lady Gaga & NPH’s opening song) I didn’t want to see Innaritu making 3 thanks speeches and neither did a great number of the general public. 

    I don’t agree with the first two though.  

    NPH’s opening song didn’t belong to the Oscars. It belonged to the Disneyland Movie Awards opening. 

    But well, nobody here is being politically correct. I’ve seen all the short films in the last two years and you can, too. Then you could find something to love in these categories and something to root for. And you’ll realize that they’re pretty good.

    And if we go by what the average TV viewer wants, the Oscars won’t celebrate films like Carol and Spotlight, not even Mad Max. They’ll be too busy giving awards to The Hunger Games. And of course, there will be only six categories during the telecast because people who don’t care about the shorts, don’t care about make-up or sound mixing either. And that would be a bore. 

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    keithw
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    It’s the Oscars!  If it’s a long show, then so be it.  For me the best thing that can be done to “improve” it is to bring back some of the older/legendary performers to present.  I have read that many don’t want to return for whatever reasons, but still, it would be great to see for example Ellen Burstyn presenting.  I liked that Kim Novak attended the Oscars a couple of years ago but she should have been giving out Best Picture.  

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    Anonymous
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    The shorts are boring only to people who don’t watch them. And yes really bitch, Original Song needs to go.

    I don’t watch short films because well I was gonna write many reasons here but if you think the Original Song category needs to go then really your argument doesn’t have any value for me
    Have a nice day, bye.

    That’s why we have People’s Choice awards for folks like you.(Is it today?) Lots of songs, celebrities making fun of each other, sheer fun. They only present the “cool” categories with cool winners on telecast, too.

    So just because I want 3 irrelevant categories to go I am a lesser person? Very cool and so edgy. Noone cares about PCA’s just like noone cares about Indie Spirits, I don’t want Oscars to be like either of them but they need to do something about the categories NOONE cares about. 

    NPH’s opening song didn’t belong to the Oscars. It belonged to the Disneyland Movie Awards opening. 

    But well, nobody here is being politically correct. I’ve seen all the short films in the last two years and you can, too. Then you could find something to love in these categories and something to root for. And you’ll realize that they’re pretty good.

    And if we go by what the average TV viewer wants, the Oscars won’t celebrate films like Carol and Spotlight, not even Mad Max. They’ll be too busy giving awards to The Hunger Games. And of course, there will be only six categories during the telecast because people who don’t care about the shorts, don’t care about make-up or sound mixing either. And that would be a bore. 

    Everybody who says the shorts should stay is being politically correct. I simply don’t want to, and I don’t care about them at all. 

    I don’t agree with you on this part either, you are underestimating people’s intelligence. 2014 ceremony had big blockbusters as well as indies and that was a nice show people cared about and watched, and, in the end, a deserving movie won. LOL let’s not act like only 3 categories cut from the show will be the end of the Oscars, those other categories have some of the best picture nominees and keeps people guessing throughout the show, regular people, but the shorts do not have any relation to anything and even the academy and show runners know this, hence their speeches are always cut earlier/kept short. 
     

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