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  • syrus80
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    #56581

    I’ve always wondered why the show was 3 hours. They need to cut it down to two. Give out the technical awards on another night. No one cares!

    Get rid of the skits and dancing. No bueno!

    Hire a host who’s a comic with fresh material. No actors. No more Billy Crystal. Give Chelsea Handler a shot.

    Any other ideas?

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    Scottferguson
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    #56583

    A lot of us here care that all the awards are given on the same night. They are part of the suspense. If a film is going to sweep, we’d know early by those awards.

    It’s never going to happen in any event (except for possibly moving the shorts away).

    As for shortening the show, it is one of the highest rated of the year. Three hours of high-level ad buys gives ABC and the Academy 50% more revenue. I doubt a two hour show would be rated much higher.

    Some of your other ideas I agree with though.

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    pacinofan
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    People always suggest shortening it and I get the appeal of that idea but as long as it is on it will be the most popular thing on TV. That may not always be true but still seems likely to be true for several more years. As such I say be happy that the show was only three hours this year. It has been four hours plus before and I am sure ABC did not mind selling those extra ads. I do not think it will ever be shorter than three unless there is a plummet in the ratings and drastic action is suggested.

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    Carbon Based Lifeform
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    #56585

    What skits?  What dancing?

    Next time, just ask your mother if you can stay up past 11 p.m .

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    Scottferguson
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    As for other non-show changes, I suggest these two:

    The members will never accept less than life time membership, but once someone is inactive (the Academy can figure out what is appropriate), you get a half vote. Anyone nominated gets a full vote for life.

    For the voting except for best picture – two separate votes are calculated. First, the votes of the branch are totalled, and assigned percentages. Second, all other members’ votes are counted, and again their percentage calculated. Each nominees’ vote then is the average % between the two. That would greatly increase the influence of those experts in the craft, while still allowing all members to participate. It would help limit undeserving awards that go to films that are a juggernaut.

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    ItsNotMe
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    #56587

    Get Bill Condon to produce again.

    Fixed! 

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    babypook
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    Personally I dont want the show ‘shortened’. After waiting for months upon months, I’m not into a blip of a show. Sometimes I roll my eyeballs at the entertainment parts, but sometimes I dont. It’s an opportunity for them to reach a wide(r) audience, and why not?

    I do care about the technical awards. They are artists as well, and part of the overall team and just as ‘important’ as the rest. Plus, I like Billy Crystal. Lucky he accepted the gig, vanilla or otherwise, after the hole left by that idiot Brett Icantdirectafilm Ratner and his ‘pal’.

    Fix the Oscars? My own feeling is, let it evolve the way it’s going to evolve. No matter what changes they try to effect, they wont and cant please everybody.

    My main concern is the show’s ratings, which ALL shows live and die by. They’ve tried this and they’ve tried that, but my own feeling is, they need to be true to themselves, and to their traditions.

    jmho.

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    syrus80
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    BP, you are right about one thing. They won’t be able to please everyone.

    I don’t think Billy was as funny this year as in previous years. The opening montage was cool though.

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    I don’t think it can ever be fixed.  The window of opportunity existed last night for us to send a message to AMPAS that we don’t care for French silent films winning anything in 2012.  By simply not watching the telecast.  That the Academy needs to get with the times and acknowledge that quality and ginormous success can sometimes intersect.  They weren’t my cup of tea, but Harry Potter fans have to feel bummed the eff out.  The most successful film franchise ever and it gets squadoosh from the Oscars. Zilch awards.  But we blew it.  

    ABC trotted out Botox Billy and viewers just fell in line.  Osmosis at its best.  In no way, shape or form, with that pathetic best picture lineup, should the Oscars have *increased* their viewership.  No effing way.  Now AMPAS thinks we’re down with honoring films that the vast majority of Americans haven’t seen nor do they wish to see and will just keep on leaving intelligent blockbusters at the door, or worse, relegated to the Usual Suspect Zone of visual effects, art direction and cinematography nominations.  But it’s just that you get years like 2011, without an Inception, Toy Story 3 or a Dark Knight mega-critic/fan favorite to position themselves as an alternative to the second-least-earning (as of now, adjusted for inflation) best picture winner in the history of American film.

    The Oscars are a dinosaur colony and the figurative meteor that similarly wiped the real ones out so long ago is bearing down on them. It makes one so discouraged that you want to leave AMPAS to its fate.  Instead of the Oscars wising up, it’s time for the People’s Choices and MTV Movie Awards to upgrade their selection process and be a true alternative to the awards that will usher festival and arthouse films into the club while folks like Christopher Nolan and his actors and crew get stopped at the door.

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    Scottferguson
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    #56591

    Why do you  refer to yourself as “us” or “we”? You are one person with your own legitimate opinion, but like the rest of us, you speak for no one but yourself.

    The ratings went up. The people who watched the show seemed satisfied.

    Deal with it already.

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    Carbon Based Lifeform
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    #56592

    I wouldn’t worry too much about Christopher Nolan if I were you.  He can always cry — or laugh — all the way to the bank.  Maybe next time if Nolan would deign to make a film that doesn’t revolve around large explosions or grandiose special effects or men wearing superhero costumes?  Otherwise, it’s just a goddam Batman movie.

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    I don’t think it can ever be fixed.  The window of opportunity existed last night for us to send a message to AMPAS that we don’t care for French silent films winning anything in 2012.  By simply not watching the telecast.  That the Academy needs to get with the times and acknowledge that quality and ginormous success can sometimes intersect.  They weren’t my cup of tea, but Harry Potter fans have to feel bummed the eff out.  The most successful film franchise ever and it gets squadoosh from the Oscars. Zilch awards.  But we blew it.  

    ABC trotted out Botox Billy and viewers just fell in line.  Osmosis at its best.  In no way, shape or form, with that pathetic best picture lineup, should the Oscars have *increased* their viewership.  No effing way.  Now AMPAS thinks we’re down with honoring films that the vast majority of Americans haven’t seen nor do they wish to see and will just keep on leaving intelligent blockbusters at the door, or worse, relegated to the Usual Suspect Zone of visual effects, art direction and cinematography nominations.  But it’s just that you get years like 2011, without an Inception, Toy Story 3 or a Dark Knight mega-critic/fan favorite to position themselves as an alternative to the second-least-earning (as of now, adjusted for inflation) best picture winner in the history of American film.

    The Oscars are a dinosaur colony and the figurative meteor that similarly wiped the real ones out so long ago is bearing down on them. It makes one so discouraged that you want to leave AMPAS to its fate.  Instead of the Oscars wising up, it’s time for the People’s Choices and MTV Movie Awards to upgrade their selection process and be a true alternative to the awards that will usher festival and arthouse films into the club while folks like Christopher Nolan and his actors and crew get stopped at the door.

    Try to be patient Paul. This year we have “Prometheus”, “John Carter”(fingers crossed…it IS Andrew Stanton and Edgar Rice Burroughs), “The Hobbit”, “The Dark Knight Rises” and so on.

    Let’s see what they do.

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    Oh no, ‘pook…John Carter?  This year’s Mars Needs Moms?  This century’s Ishtar?  My god in heaven, that looks like a clusterfrak from the previews.  A third of a billion (b) dollars spent and…yikes.  Time will tell on that.  

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    #56595

    Ishtar is quite an accomplished movie, very funny and features my favorite Dustin Hoffman performance. Yes, it was a commercial flop, but so are quite a few films later discovered to be worthy.

    Whatever the quality of John Carter, there are suspicions that it might lose more money than any film in history.

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    pacinofan
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    I got to see “John Carter” at an early preview in AZ, and surprise of surprises Andrew Stanton presented it, and it was super-cheesy with really lousy acting. It was like a sub-par “Avatar” rip-off crossed with the worst aspects of the ‘Star Wars” prequels and the cheesiness of the “Clash of the Titans’ remake. I even fell asleep for a little while despite all the explosions, creatures and fighting. It reminded me of cheesy sci-fi sci-fi and sword/sorcery flicks they made in the 80s, and do not not make anymore- not really a bad thing, with musclebound leads who could not act a lick and actresses, well sorta actresses, straight outta PLAYBOY magazine who wear skimpy clothes but have no other discernible talents. That kind of movie but made for kids with silly dialogue that sounds like stuff Jar Jar Binks might have said.

    Ummm, it’s bad.

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