August 12, 2013 at 2:34 pm #108630
I don’t think we can say this was never a possibility, since many would have considered it fraud for Roberts to go Supporting just so Meryl could compete in Lead without splitting the vote, but this is huge news!
Lead Actress is really shaken up now, and I’d say Cate Blanchett has the best chance and support at this early stage.
Formerly known in the forums as PianoMann.August 12, 2013 at 2:39 pm #108631
I was told this by another distributor a few weeks ago, and reported it here, to widespread disbelief.
As I said at the time, this makes great sense. Streep had little chance to win lead so soon, has a better chance to win supporting, assuming she is nominated (neither her nor Winfred is a lock, even if both are likely).August 12, 2013 at 2:41 pm #108632
As I said at the time, this makes great sense. Streep had little chance to win lead so soon, has a better chance to win supporting, assuming she is nominated (neither her nor Winfred is a lock, even if both are likely).
It was absolutely a shrewd move, a victory in this category is much more likely than a victory in Lead, all other considerations aside.
Formerly known in the forums as PianoMann.August 12, 2013 at 2:42 pm #108633
Congrats on this, Tom. You just dropped a bomb on the awards sites.August 12, 2013 at 2:43 pm #108634
Whoa! I need to change my predictions (basically just swap Meryl Streep and Julia Roberts).August 12, 2013 at 2:44 pm #108635
Wow this was very unexpected. Streep hasn’t gone supporitng in over a decade. I hopes she leaves room for Martindale in the category as well.
Roberts is definitely a shoe in for Lead Actress now.August 12, 2013 at 2:46 pm #108636
I do think there is a slight chance that the Academy won’t fall for this a la Winslet in The Reader.
My guess is Harvey is probably doing this to help Dench finally get that leading Oscar, not get Roberts a second one.August 12, 2013 at 2:48 pm #108637
Having seen the play, if the script is largely unchanged it makes a lot more sense than having Roberts pretend to be supporting, but I still don’t really like it. There are several actual supporting actresses in the play, but comparing them to Streep’s roll will likely kill any change those actors might have at a nomination.
This makes me wonder if they aren’t expecting any sort of juggernaut film and are doing this to maximize the number of nominations they might get.August 12, 2013 at 2:52 pm #108638
I think they could be trying to maximize nominations without the hypothetical fear of not being as well-received as they hope. I think it’s a case of making the most practical move for Streep’s chances and getting Roberts in the lead slot and making her competitive.
Formerly known in the forums as PianoMann.August 12, 2013 at 3:04 pm #108639
In 8.5 years here, I’ve never done a toldja!. It may be another 8.5 years. But I am doing so today:
I posted on June 23:
Heard from a top-end source who hears from a couple people who have seen A:OC
that there is no chance Streep could be pushed as lead and Roberts supporting,
that the latter dominates the film, is excellent; Streep is fine, but her
chances for winning would be as a supporting nominee, and the smart move (since
Roberts could compete for a lead win, and pushing Roberts for supporting would
get Weinstein laughed out of the room).
I need to hear more reports, but
I pass this along so people don’t automatically assume Streep has a lead slot
guaranteed, or that Roberts is a supporting contender.
Later that day I made best actress predictions, and said they were based on my predicting Streep in supporting:August 12, 2013 at 3:05 pm #108640
Woah. Woah. WOAH.
There is no way on Earth Meryl’s role is supporting unless they significantly cut her character from the movie. The whole movie is centered around her character, and she is in it from the beginning until the very, very end. I remember in 2008 hoping that Amy Morton (who played Roberts’ character) would somehow get placed in featured actress for the Tonys. It would have been category fraud, but I didn’t want her to walk away empty handed, and if either role HAD to be pushed to supporting, it would definitely be hers. But having the role of Violet be moved to supporting is totally blowing my mind.
And Meryl vs. Oprah? Forget it. I don’t know if my soul can handle the stress of that race..
I bet Margo Martindale is maaaad…August 12, 2013 at 3:05 pm #108641
Those endless category frauds make me sick. How on earth is Violet a supporting unless you consider everyone supporting?
Hopefully the Academy won’t buy it. At least it’s not as bad if Roberts went supporting like thought she would.
Also poor Margo Martindale.
By the way Streep is billed first on the poster, so I guess the original plan was for her to compete in Lead category.August 12, 2013 at 3:10 pm #108642
If one of the ladies were to drop to Supporting, it makes more sense for Meryl. I naturally have not seen the film yet, but judging by the play, Streep’s role dominates in the first act, while Roberts’ owns the second and third acts. Oh, and this is the best shot at getting Streep another Oscar so soon.