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  • FreemanGriffin
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    #198522

    How are the members of the HFPA deciding which films are comedies and which films are dramas this year? The trailers for Joy sure seem like it’s a dramatic film to me. The Martian – while having many comedic moments – is imo a drama. (Matt Damon is very funny but also very dramatic and poignant too).  I’ll See You In My Dreams has a great deal of humor in it, but it’s premise is dramatic. Brooklyn is considered a drama, which makes sense and yet it’s also quite comedic as well. The trailer for The Big Short sure looks to be a drama with comedic elements rather than a full-fledged comedy. I’m sure there are other films in the predictions center that don’t really make sense as well. So, how do they decide these things? I felt that Birdman was a drama with some comedy in it last year. Big Eyes was definitely a drama, so Amy Adams’ win made no sense at all to me. 

    I wish they would do away with the “Comedy or Musical” designation. Walk The Line was considered a “Comedy or Musical” when it was atually a drama (Joaquin Phoenix won a Golden Globe for his dramatic performance as Johnny Cash due to this strange designation). Some musicals are comedies – Chicago comes to mind – but most are dramas, like Jersey Boys, Evita, and Walk The Line.

    (btw, I went to the predictions center to put Blythe Danner in the Best Actress in a Comedy or Musical category and found her name missing)

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    Alex Bustillos
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    #198524

    I don’t know if the members are the ones that put each movie on the category or the studios sent the screeners for consideration in which category they must represent. 

    The same happens with TV. 

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    Anonymous
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    Well it’s all because of the awards season – the HFPA is trying to push all awards contenders in the two categories, snubbing well-deserved actual comedies like “Spy”. Like “The Martian” as a comedy? “Joy” as a comedy? “Grandma” as a comedy? Give me a break! Just because there are some funny elements in a film, it doesn’t make it a drama. Like “The Martian” or “Joy” do not deal with ‘funny’ stuff. The fact that there are some funny lines and scenes are so not important in this case.

    It’s nice that they don’t take seriously the category frauds, but they need to deal with this situation as well. It’s the only real award rewarding comedies, and it’s ironic that actual comedies don’t stand a chance against the big Oscar baits in their own field. So disappointing and I’m going to forever curse their names if they snub the funniest, most awesome comedy “Spy” this year.

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    GhostOrchid
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    #198526

    Reminds me of Jack Nicholson’s reaction when he won Best Actor Drama for About Schmidt:
    “I though we made a comedy.”

    The lines betwenn comedy and drama are super slight these days. Personally I don’t think Adapatation. or Lost in Translations were comedies at all, but the Globes thought otherwise.
    Weinstein loves to put some of his movies into comedy when he already has a drama contender. In 2011 MWWM was definitely more of a drama, but he already had Meryl in Drama for TIL as safe bet and in 2013 he did it again and put A:OC in Comedy, he already had Judy Dench and Philomena in Drama.
    And what Harvey wants, the Globes do. (though I’m not sure if he wanted them to put Rooney in Lead this year)

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    Riley
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    #198527

    How was Philomena considered a drama when it had so much humour?  Not saying that it was necessarily the wrong category, but considering the unfunny films that the Globes have put in comedy, it would seem to be an easy comedy classification considering that the Philomena character herself was largely comic relief and the other lead was freaking Steve Coogan.

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    Chris Beachum
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    #198529

    (btw, I went to the predictions center to put Blythe Danner in the Best Actress in a Comedy or Musical category and found her name missing)

    Just checked, and Danner is right there where she has been for months.

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    AMG
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    #198530

    Philomena was front and foremost a drama. It’s just there were comedic elements to it. The subject matter was arguably not light hearted enough to be classed a comedy. Plus it is a real story.

    The dramas with comedy that are placed comedy tend to be fictional and have a more light hearted/less emotional core story. That may be why they are placed there with more ease than if Philomena was.

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    ETPhoneHome
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    #198531

    I always hope an actual comedy wins each year, but that’s really rare recently. I was thrilled that Grand Budapest managed to win last year, but the only comedy with any chance is Trainwreck and even that is incredibly slim.

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    jf123
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    #198532

    Idk about Joy, from what I’ve heard, there were two different cuts of the film that was shown at some film festival and one was pretty comedic while the other was dramatic

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    Alex Bustillos
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    #198534

    Well it’s all because of the awards season – the HFPA is trying to push all awards contenders in the two categories, snubbing well-deserved actual comedies like “Spy”. Like “The Martian” as a comedy? “Joy” as a comedy? “Grandma” as a comedy? Give me a break! Just because there are some funny elements in a film, it doesn’t make it a drama. Like “The Martian” or “Joy” do not deal with ‘funny’ stuff. The fact that there are some funny lines and scenes are so not important in this case.

    It’s nice that they don’t take seriously the category frauds, but they need to deal with this situation as well. It’s the only real award rewarding comedies, and it’s ironic that actual comedies don’t stand a chance against the big Oscar baits in their own field. So disappointing and I’m going to forever curse their names if they snub the funniest, most awesome comedy “Spy” this year.

    The Hangover is one of the last comedic comedies to won the award, wasn’t it? 

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    [quote=”Vincelette”]

    Well it’s all because of the awards season – the HFPA is trying to push all awards contenders in the two categories, snubbing well-deserved actual comedies like “Spy”. Like “The Martian” as a comedy? “Joy” as a comedy? “Grandma” as a comedy? Give me a break! Just because there are some funny elements in a film, it doesn’t make it a drama. Like “The Martian” or “Joy” do not deal with ‘funny’ stuff. The fact that there are some funny lines and scenes are so not important in this case.

    It’s nice that they don’t take seriously the category frauds, but they need to deal with this situation as well. It’s the only real award rewarding comedies, and it’s ironic that actual comedies don’t stand a chance against the big Oscar baits in their own field. So disappointing and I’m going to forever curse their names if they snub the funniest, most awesome comedy “Spy” this year.

    The Hangover is one of the last comedic comedies to won the award, wasn’t it? 
    [/quote]

    Yupp. Such a randomly good choice.

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    #198536

    Guys, I don’t see how could anyone find “Philomena” funny. Of course there are a few funny elements, but the actual topic of the film is way too serious and tragic. Definitely a drama. Btw, incredibly lovely film!

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