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  • Beau S.
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    This is from a little a while ago. Surprised it didn’t get more attention especially from certain members of this forum.

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    Harvey Weinstein Says He Made Wrong Call On ‘August: Osage County’


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    Christopher Rosen


    Posted:
    02/20/2014 2:31 pm EST


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    02/20/2014 2:59 pm EST

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    Despite a wave of advanced hype and its Tony Award-winning
    pedigree, “August: Osage County” wound up being the awards contender
    that didn’t contend: the John Wells film score just two Oscar
    nominations, for Best Actress (Meryl Streep) and Best Supporting Actress
    (Julia Roberts), and was shut out of the all-important Best Picture
    category. In an interview with Deadline.com’s Mike Fleming, producer Harvey Weinstein acknowledged that some early missteps with the picture — specifically its rocky debut at the Toronto International Film Festival in September of 2013 — were to blame.

    “I
    do think we paid a price critically by rushing for Toronto. It bothered
    me, the nasty blogs that picked on John Wells and called him a TV
    director. How can you say that about the guy who co-created the ‘ER’
    pilot, who was Aaron Sorkin’s partner on ‘The West Wing’? I resented
    that,” Weinstein said.

    Many
    critics in Toronto took specific issue with the film’s ending, which
    was slightly changed by Wells and playwright-turned-screenwriter Tracy
    Letts to track what happens to Roberts’ character, Barbara Weston, after
    she leaves her vicious mother, Streep’s Violet Weston, alone in the
    family’s house.

    “The dark, near-chiaroscuro setting of the Weston
    family home is gone, and we get a minute and a half of the honey-dappled
    plains and Roberts looking happy,” Vulture’s Kyle Buchanan wrote after the film’s September debut.
    “Score that last bit with an upbeat pop song and it could have come
    from a romantic comedy Julia Roberts had made in her prime.”

    At the time, Wells said that he was still debating on just how to end the film,
    which actually entered theaters with the same final scene as the one
    that screened in Toronto. Speaking to HuffPost Entertainment in
    December, both Wells and Letts defended the small change, however, which they noted wasn’t necessarily upbeat.

    “It’s not a happy ending, and it’s not going to play like that,” Wells said.
    “People who had seen the play and had remembered just how dark the very
    end of the play was, I think they were thinking that it was really
    different and questioning whether it should end that way. I was always
    very pleased with it.”

    Still, Weinstein admitted that Wells was
    rushed to finish “August: Osage County” in time for Toronto. It’s a
    decision the producer wouldn’t make again.

    “I watched how David O.
    [Russell] and Marty [Scorsese] took the time they needed on their
    films, and imposed their strong will and vision in films that came out
    when they were ready,” Weinstein said,
    referring to “American Hustle” and “The Wolf Of Wall Street,” two Best
    Picture nominees. “I have only myself to blame for pushing John Wells to
    try and be ready for a festival. It was my call, and it was not the
    right call.”

    For more on Weinstein, head to Deadline.com.

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    Scottferguson
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    Oh please. The Toronto premiere in front of its uncritical, rapturous audience was the best single thing that happened to the film.

    The final version of the film was a dud. TWC spent tons on it to boost it to its mediocre gross. It was unsalvagable.

    This is pure nonsensical spin. 

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    Stardust
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    Harvey better not intervene with Carol. Leave it to 2015.

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    He’s an unapologetic bullshit artist. Why does he continue to talk after everyone has moved on? This only brings attention to what is wrong with the movie instead of allowing less critical audiences to discover it on their own without concern for how award season and the critics and paying audiences responded to it.

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    Scottferguson
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    The reason? Because the mistake with the movie was John Wells directing it. John Wells (and George Clooney, his friend, also producer of the film) are more powerful that Harvey Weinstein, so he thinks it in his interest to protect them from criticism for whatever reason (likely hoped for future projects).

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    The reason? Because the mistake with the movie was John Wells directing it. John Wells (and George Clooney, his friend, also producer of the film) are more powerful that Harvey Weinstein, so he thinks it in his interest to protect them from criticism for whatever reason (likely hoped for future projects).

    That’s unfortunate. Because neither one is a precious artistic voice to the cinematic landscape.

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    Clooney is. As a movie force, Wells is an outstanding TV producer.

    Compare the movies Clooney has been in over the last decade with those Streep has been in. A complete wipeout in Clooney’s favor. He has a quality control sensor in his make up and is a team player.

    That I prefer Clooney as a film actor to Streep is subjective. But that his movies are vastly better than Streep’s – does anyone seriously dispute that? 

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    It was all Harvey’s call as A:OC was a pet project for him after beating George Clooney & Grant Heslov to the film rights.  Apart from TIFF, the following were Harvey’s call (I reiterated to these previously):

    1. Choice of Director in John Wells.
    2. Hiring George & Grant as Producer.
    3. Mandating to 2 hours length.  If Wolf can have 3 hours, why not at least 2.5 hours for A:OC.
    4. The erratic release dates.
    5. The controversial end scene.
    6. The intramurals in category placements between Meryl & Julia. 
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    Clooney is. As a movie force, Wells is an outstanding TV producer.

    Compare the movies Clooney has been in over the last decade with those Streep has been in. A complete wipeout in Clooney’s favor. He has a quality control sensor in his make up and is a team player.

    That I prefer Clooney as a film actor to Streep is subjective. But that his movies are vastly better than Streep’s – does anyone seriously dispute that? 

    Though I don’t see Clooney as a good actor. He has incredible taste in material. The execution of said material isn’t always of the quality of the premise itself.

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    [quote=”Scottferguson”]Clooney is. As a movie force, Wells is an outstanding TV producer.

    Compare the movies Clooney has been in over the last decade with those Streep has been in. A complete wipeout in Clooney’s favor. He has a quality control sensor in his make up and is a team player.

    That I prefer Clooney as a film actor to Streep is subjective. But that his movies are vastly better than Streep’s – does anyone seriously dispute that? 

    Though I don’t see Clooney as a good actor. He has incredible taste in material. The execution of said material isn’t always of the quality of the premise itself.[/quote]

    I see Clooney as a great actor.  “Out of Sight,”  “Up in the Air” and “The Descendants” are some of my favorite male performances.  I think he’s actually more versatile than DiCaprio, who I also admire as an actor.

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    Lots said the acting was too big and the director should have pulled the actors back. But it’s interesting how many had problems with the materials and plot itself. That the material may have played in a theater but was all wrong for film no matter who directed! Like with Rent. People not attacking the execution of the material but the material itself.

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    Evidence countering that is that Letts’ play Killer Joe was made into a terrific movie just a year earlier.

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    But he still defended John Well’s poor direction in that Deadline inteview. That was the major problem with the film and Harvey still hasn’t realized it.

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    Clooney is. As a movie force, Wells is an outstanding TV producer.

    Compare the movies Clooney has been in over the last decade with those Streep has been in. A complete wipeout in Clooney’s favor. He has a quality control sensor in his make up and is a team player.

    That I prefer Clooney as a film actor to Streep is subjective. But that his movies are vastly better than Streep’s – does anyone seriously dispute that? 

    Before anyone attacks Scott for saying this, lets look at the list of films both Streep and Clooney have made since 2005. Beside each film is their metacritic score:

    George Clooney:
    Gravity (96)
    The Descendents (84)
    Fantastic Mr. Fox (83)
    Up in the Air (83)
    Michael Clayton (82)
    Good Night, and Good Luck (80)
    Syriana (76)
    The Ides of March (67)
    Burn After Reading (63)
    Oceans Thirteen (62)
    The American (61)
    Leatherheads (56)
    The Men Who Stare At Goats (54)
    The Monuments Men (52)
    The Good German (49)

    Meryl Streep:
    Fantastic Mr. Fox (83)
    A Prairie Home Companion (75)
    Doubt (68)
    Julie & Julia (66)
    Hope Springs (65)
    The Devil Wears Prada (62)
    The Ant Bully (59)
    August: Osage County (58)
    Prime (58)
    It’s Complicated (57)
    Rendition (55)
    The Iron Lady (54)
    Mama Mia! (51)
    Dark Matter (49)
    Lion for Lambs (47)
    Evening (45)

    So, I would agree with Scott that George Clooney is much better at picking quality projects than Streep, and his movies are much much better. In fact, if we factor in the movies that Clooney has produced, but not appeared in, Clooney is VERY VERY VERY good at picking projects with quality.

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    Evidence countering that is that Letts’ play Killer Joe was made into a terrific movie just a year earlier.

    So many objected to the character of Johnna and I don’t remember any broadway critic having so much problems with her! That want just about execution. Of course a play can be made into a good movie but when people are attacking the existence of a character that’s not just execution.

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