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  • Joe Burns
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    #162347

    Some Oscar winners are INTENSELY hated by nearly all, but I think that some are overly trashed and don’t deserve the  level of vennom that is tossed at them.  Granted, they may have not been deserving or been close to the best at all, but as the saying goes “Hate is a strong word”.  

    Here are the wins I think that get too much of a bad rep with most Oscar-watchers:  

    1.  Helen Hunt in As Good As It Gets:  Seriously, why do people didlike her so much?  She gives a terrific performances that dominates the film and sh’s wonderful to watch.  As I’ve said before, the film would be nothing substancial without her.   I think it has to do with  people attacking  non-dramatic performances that win Oscars and Hunt’s merits as an actress.  I haven’t seen her in anything else, so I can’t judge the latter, but  here she was great and deserved the Oscar (I’ve seen all of them, but Christie).  

    2.  Julia Roberts in Erin Brokovich:  This is a fantastic performance that Julia nails-  Yes, its a bit repetive and Erin Brokovich is not a likeable character per se,  but she is terrfifc and is better then Ellen Burstyn’s overrated performance in Requiem For A Dream .  There I said it.  That said, I probably would have gone with Laura Linney though,  should rewatch her(Seen all, but Allen).    

    3.  Glenda Jackson in A Touch Of Class:  The film is dated, but Glenda is fabulous:  She adds a lot of depth and humour to the role and she knocks it out of the ball park.   I think most of the hate comes from her competition’s supporters and like Hunt, the hatred of non-dramatic performances winning Oscars.  

    4.     Julie Andrews in Mary Poppins:  No, its not an Oscar-worthy performance by any means, but  why everyone despises her so much makes my heart bleed.  Seriously, do you guys have any child left in you?  She’s wonderful for the film and how can anyone hate Julie Andrews?  That being said,  Kim Stanley gives a  powerful, fascinating performance in Seance On The Afternoon that was more deserving.  (Need to see Bancroft, Loren,  and  rewatch Reynolds though) .  

    5.  Grace Kelly in The Country Girl:  I too think Judy was robbed, but Grace was fantastic and like Hunt,  commanded the film and added so much to the role that the results are outstanding.  Should have been a tie.  

    6.   Octavia Spencer in The Help:  She  is a little more love it or hate it? , but I am entirely in suppport of her win.  She is both incredibly funny and powerful in her performance and could even have been given a leading nomination/win from me.  Bejo is great too though, even if she is a lead.  

    7.  My Fair Lady’s wins:  I’m sucker for musicals, but this movie is not terrible in any way.  It’s just needed more life in it and Cuckor did film it in an unexciting and unappealing way visually.  It’s not a great Oscar winner, but is better then a lot of them and I love Rex Harrison.  Zorba The Greek and Mary Poppins are better though (Need to see Becket and Dr Stragelove)  

    8.  The King’s Speech:  Many will disagree with me, but I find this film wonderful and entertaining, even if it loses some if its impact on repeated viewings.   I knew from the moment it was sweping the guild awards that It was destined to be one of the most hated wins though.  

    9.  Chicago’s wins:  This my favorite film, so I am biased,  but everyobody trashes it thoughtlessly.  Its a great film that is very deserving of its BP win, even if it isn’t perfect.  

    10.  Forest’s Gumps wins:  Not a great movie, no, but not a bad one either and I am one of the few who was not overly impressed with Pulp Fiction.  

    So, what are yours?   

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    keithw
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    #162349

    I think Art Carney is a very deserving winner for “Harry and Tonto”. It was stiff competition for sure and I bet the voting was really close.  Ditto for Glenda Jackson in “A Touch of Class”…….I personally would have chosen Marsha Mason in “Cinderella Liberty” but once again I would bet that was one of the closest races in history with great performances as well by Streisand, Burstyn and Woodward. 

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    ETPhoneHome
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    #162350

    For me, I have to always defend Dances With Wolves beating Goodfellas. I don’t know if it’s necessarily a better film, but I preffered Dances With Wolves and think it was a very worthy winner. 

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    Beau S.
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    I love and will always defend Kate Winslet’s win for The Reader. The movie is not good, but Winslet absolutely nails that character and all of her deep complexities.

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    Cheshire
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    #162352

    People hating Julie Andrews win is news to me. But, I’ll defend Brave winning best animated feature easily

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    nkb325
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    I feel like so much of this comes down more to who these people beat than their actual quality. Me personally:

    1. Crash – An amazing movie that I absolutely loved. I will admit that I have not seen Brokeback Mountain, so I can’t say whether or not it deserved to win that specific year, but it is certainly deserving in general as a BP winner. For some reason this movie is called one of the worst BP winners ever, and I think that is entirely because it beat such a heavy frontrunner. I think it’s an excellent movie (incredible screenplay, great direction, and one of the best ensemble’s of recent years) and better than many BP winners ive seen 

    2. Octavia Spencer – I agree with Joe Burns that this is more of a polarizing win than a flat out hated win, but I thought she was amazing in the movie. I walked out of that theatre thinking I wanted whoever played Aibileen, whoever played Minny, and whoever played Celia to all get nominated for oscars, and when I looked them up is when I started following the oscars, so the performance also holds a special place for me. I think she’s hilarious, charismatic, but brings such an underlying weight and world-weariness to a character that could have been simple comedic relief.

    3. Forrest Gump –  I’ve seen Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption, and I am still perfectly happy with this win. It’s just such a lovely, heartfelt, uplfiting movie with great performances, and every once in a while its nice to see one of those movies win.

    4. Titanic – again not so much hated, as a lot of people just argue undeserving (and definitely not nearly as vocally as people are with Crash), but I love this movie and think it very much deserves to be one of the highest grossing movie of all time. An epic, incredibly romantic, and action filled movie, with despite what most people say, imo one of the best screenplays ive ever seen in this type of movie. 

    5. Rocky – Network bored the crap out of me. Thats all i gotta say. Rocky is such an iconic movie, yes its cliche and yes its a fairytale, but cliche doesn’t always mean bad. When cliche is done as well as it is in Rocky, it can serve as an example of why people keep going back to those same storylines. And with being unrealistic, I think Roger Ebert described it as being a movie about a hero, so it doesn’t really need to be realistic to me.  

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    FilmGuy619
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    1. Forrest Gump- One of my favorite movies ever.

    2. Helen Hunt- This is one I don’t fully understand. I thought she was brilliant and since her win was for a comedy, it was a rare gem.

    3. Denzel Washington for Training Day- I thought it was amazing how he really played against type and won the Oscar for it.

    4. Julia Roberts- Sure, her win may have been at the expense of Ellen Burstyn, but her performance did floor me. I think the hatred for this win has to do with her being who she is.

    5. Jennifer Lawrence- Like with Roberts, I think the resent for this one has to do with people hating when they give BA to the “actress of the moment”. After doing some thinking on these performances, I may have gone with Jessica Chastain, but I love Lawrence’s film and watching her performance in this, so it’s fine with me.

    6. The Artist- To me, this film’s win for BP was one of those “best decisions in a weak lineup” type deals. But, I did love the film’s nostaglic factor and how it was a little French movie that managed to almost sweep throughout the awards circuit. 

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    Anthony
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    I definitely agree that the bashing Helen Hunt receives is way too heated, even if I do think Judi Dench should’ve won for Mrs. Brown. Hunt was the best thing about As Good As it Gets and she gave a very real, lived-in performance that was very heartwarming and at times funny (her “Okay….” Oscar clip is very well done).

    Forrest Gump has its detractors (many of them) and while I am fully in support of Best Picture going to Pulp Fiction, I can’t deny that Forrest Gump was a good, entertaining film that is insanely memorable.

    Mira Sorvino has a lot of people who seem to talk down on her win over Kate Winslet or Joan Allen, and while I may consider giving the win to Allen or Winslet, I feel Sorvino was a worthy selection and she made such a cliche character interesting.

    Titanic was a very worthy Best Picture winner, even if I preferred L.A. Confidential….those two would make my personal lineup along with Boogie Nights, Jackie Brown, and The Sweet Hereafter.

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    FcoB
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    #162356

    I think Cate Blanchett was really deserving of her Oscar for The Aviator even though people think Natalie Portman was robbed… I think both of them were fantastic, but Cate Blanchett should be awarded for every single thing she does. Best actress working today!

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    Joe Burns
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    I feel like so much of this comes down more to who these people beat than their actual quality. Me personally:

    1. Crash – An amazing movie that I absolutely loved. I will admit that I have not seen Brokeback Mountain, so I can’t say whether or not it deserved to win that specific year, but it is certainly deserving in general as a BP winner. For some reason this movie is called one of the worst BP winners ever, and I think that is entirely because it beat such a heavy frontrunner. I think it’s an excellent movie (incredible screenplay, great direction, and one of the best ensemble’s of recent years) and better than many BP winners ive seen 

    2. Octavia Spencer – I agree with Joe Burns that this is more of a polarizing win than a flat out hated win, but I thought she was amazing in the movie. I walked out of that theatre thinking I wanted whoever played Aibileen, whoever played Minny, and whoever played Celia to all get nominated for oscars, and when I looked them up is when I started following the oscars, so the performance also holds a special place for me. I think she’s hilarious, charismatic, but brings such an underlying weight and world-weariness to a character that could have been simple comedic relief.

    3. Forrest Gump –  I’ve seen Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption, and I am still perfectly happy with this win. It’s just such a lovely, heartfelt, uplfiting movie with great performances, and every once in a while its nice to see one of those movies win.

    4. Titanic – again not so much hated, as a lot of people just argue undeserving (and definitely not nearly as vocally as people are with Crash), but I love this movie and think it very much deserves to be one of the highest grossing movie of all time. An epic, incredibly romantic, and action filled movie, with despite what most people say, imo one of the best screenplays ive ever seen in this type of movie. 

    5. Rocky – Network bored the crap out of me. Thats all i gotta say. Rocky is such an iconic movie, yes its cliche and yes its a fairytale, but cliche doesn’t always mean bad. When cliche is done as well as it is in Rocky, it can serve as an example of why people keep going back to those same storylines. And with being unrealistic, I think Roger Ebert described it as being a movie about a hero, so it doesn’t really need to be realistic to me.  

      

    I should have included Crash  in my first post,  I love the film too and will assert its quality as much as I can.   Titantic is another good choice, it is a terrific movie even if it is a bit cliched.    Not a fan of Rocky, but  it isn’t an awful movie.  I love Network though 

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    Joe Burns
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    People hating Julie Andrews win is news to me. But, I’ll defend Brave winning best animated feature easily

    When I first started looking into  Oscarwatcher’s opinions over the Internet, Andrews win was hated on by the people I knew.  Brave is a good, entertaining movie, but I didn’t see any of the other nominees so I can’t say who should have won.  

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    Joe Burns
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    I love and will always defend Kate Winslet’s win for The Reader. The movie is not good, but Winslet absolutely nails that character and all of her deep complexities.

    I agree!!  

     

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    Chariots of Fire – This is a film about running against serious juggernauts: i.e., Raiders of the Lost Ark, Reds, and On Golden Pond. It’s still an engaging and really well-made film. No, it might not be a better film than those other nominees. It does, however, have a claim for Best Picture as a memorable, very rewatchable, feel-good film. That’s not much criteria, but it goes a really long way… which is sort of the point. 

    Alan Arkin for Little Miss Sunshine – The crotchety, drug addict grandpa. Maybe it’s not as immediately compelling as Eddie Murphy’s meteoric rise and fall from greatness in Dreamgirls, but Arkin puts in a layered, funny, and honest performance. Yeah, it’s really gross that he teaches his granddaughter to dance like a stripper–which weirdly lends a lot to Abigail Breslin, who also puts in an amazing performance–but as much as he is a disgusting codger, Arkin makes it just as believable that he really does love his family. It’s such a natural and humanized take on someone who could be a stock character, but is so much more. 

     

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    Jessica Lange in Tootsie. I love the film a lot, and find that she takes what could have been a stock part and adds a lot of sweetness and vulnerability to it. Yes, Frances played a huge part in getting her the Golden Boy, but I’m still happy for her and Julie Nichols. 

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    It’s not cool to like “Crash,” but I liked it a lot too. Haven’t seen it since the first time, so I can’t say how it holds up, but at the time I liked it a hair better than “Brokeback Mountain.” It’s a worthy Best Picture winner in my eyes; the problem is how it won. “Brokeback Mountain” was a much more important film in cinema and Oscar history, and the specter of homophobia that hangs over its loss makes “Crash,” in hindsight, the wrong winner, but not a bad winner.

    I also agree about Helen Hunt. She was outstanding in “As Good As it Gets.”

    I’m not sure if it’s her performance or her public persona, but Anne Hathaway gets a lot of flack for her “Les Miserables” win, but I thought it was well deserved. There weren’t that many supporting performances that excited me that year; just her and Amy Adams (“The Master”).

    I also thought Jennifer Connelly was the right winner when she won for “A Beautiful Mind.” I also didn’t mind its win for Best Picture. I think she tends to get some flack too. And so does Kim Basinger, who I also considered a deserving winner for “LA Confidential,” even though she dealt Julianne Moore her first loss.

    I also thought Halle Berry did a great job in “Monster’s Ball.” That win made me happy too.

    Is it just me, or do women tend to get more backlash for Oscar wins than men?

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