Hey Academy … NULLIFY Supporting Nomination DEEMED as Lead Performance !!‏!

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  • Etchie
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    Hey Academy … DISQUALIFY Lead Performances Getting Supporting Acting Nomination  !!!

     

    Was it This Year or Last Year that a Best Original Song Nomination was NULLIFIED because of some Improprieties committed.

      

    To ERADICATE Category Fraud ….. The Academy should give a WARNING To All Contenders that THEY Reserve the Right to Nullify a Supporting Acting Nomination DEEMED as Lead or Co-Lead.

        

    Rationale is UNFAIR COMPETITION brought about by Lead-Extensive VERSUS Supporting-Short-Cameo Performances.

     

    This Way ….. the FYC Ads & Oscar Campaigns would be more Careful & Specific to either Lead or Supporting.  IF in Doubt ….. SAFE to Campaign in LEAD !!!

     

    Offhand for this coming Award Season ….. the following Lead or Co-Lead Performances  COULD BE DISQUALIFIED  if getting a SUPPORTING Acting Nomination:

    • Cate Blanchett & Rooney Mara — Carol
    • Julianne Moore & Ellen Page — Freeheld 
    • Cate Blanchett — Truth
    • Marion Cotillard — Macbeth
    • To be Expanded

     

    P.S. — GoldDerby and Other Oscar Watchers-Bloggers & Sites Should Do an OPEN LETTER or provide a LIST to The Academy of Lead Performances MASQUERADING & POSITIONING for a Supporting Acting Nomination …..

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    dinasztie
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    I hate category fraud as much as anyone but withdrawing a nomination seems to be a horrifying, revisionistic thought to me. I’d say contenders should submit like the Emmys with a committee determining where they belong. That’s it. But hey, voters have the right to decide for themselves what they consider supporting. So NO!

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    Etchie
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    THIS ….. SUPPORTING  ACTING  INITIATIVE  by  The Academy  WILL: 

    • Decongest the Supporting Acting Category
    • Foster Fair & Balanced Competition
    • Make Lead Acting More Competitive
    • Instill Discipline on Actors voting for Nominees ….. more than anyone, they should well know how to classify & distinguish between a Lead Vs. Supporting Performances.
    • ERADICATE Category Fraud

      

    As with ANY Oscar Improvements & Initiatives ….. Proper & Due  Notices & Announcements should be made to ALL STAKEHOLDERS like:

    • The Entire Academy
    • Acting Branch specifically its Nominating Committee
    • Academy Voters
    • Contenders
    • Oscar Handlers, Strategists, Consultants, etc. etc. etc.

     

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    Etchie
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    I hate category fraud as much as anyone but withdrawing a nomination seems to be a horrifying, revisionistic thought to me. I’d say contenders should submit like the Emmys with a committee determining where they belong. That’s it. But hey, voters have the right to decide for themselves what they consider supporting. So NO!

    You need such  “horrifying, revisionistic thoughts”  to Institute Reforms !!!

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    Titanium
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    I wonder why Etchie feels so strongly about this issue now. Something to do with a supporting actress contender this year with not much screentime? I think her name rhymes with Beryl Deep

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    Etchie
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    I wonder why Etchie feels so strongly about this issue now. Something to do with a supporting actress contender this year with not much screentime? I think her name rhymes with Beryl Deep

    Oh Mylanta  ….. You are very PERCEPTIVE ….. haha  !!!

    It IS ….. ABOUT TIME ….. The Academy Do a CLAMPDOWN and Address THIS Category Fraud Issue  !!!

    IF Not NOW  …..  WHEN  ???

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    Bogie Miller
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    Doesn’t the Academy already have this right because individual voters can nominate people wherever they want even if they are campaigned differently? 

    HELLO KATE WINSLET!

     

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    tennisfreak
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    ^^ THIS. Also comparing it to nullifying a song that clearly violated the written rules isn’t remotely fair because sometimes there are legitimate judgment calls in this sort of thing. You’re comparing a subjective wrong to an objective. Also, if the board even thought about doing this the actors branch would throw the BIGGEST SHIT FIT YOU EVER SAW.

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    Etchie
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    Doesn’t the Academy already have this right because individual voters can nominate people wherever they want even if they are campaigned differently? 

    HELLO KATE WINSLET!

     

     

    The WINSLET Aberration or Phenomenon”  is Just Right ….. Because It is an UPGRADE ….. that is, Supporting TO Lead  !!!

    What is EGREGIOUS and FRAUDULENT ….. IS the DOWNGRADE from Lead TO Supporting ….. to MAXIMIZE Nominations ….. &&&  Increase WIN ODDS   !!!

    It is UNFAIR COMPETITION & UNDUE ADVANTAGE ….. for a LEAD Performance  Versus SUPPORTING Performances ….. in the Best Supporting Actor-Actress Categories  !!!

     

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    Rich Landry
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    Doesn’t the Academy members vote for the performance in whatever category it feels like? Which is why Winslet was bumped up to Lead for The Reader instead of Supporting at the other awards because at those, actors are submitted to a specific category? So I wouldn’t think the Academy should veto their own nomination and placement of the person. 

     

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    Patrick
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    This happens in the lead category, as well. Steve Carrell was definitely supporting in Foxcatcher, but he was nominated in lead instead in order to boost the film’s acting nominations (one for Carrell, one for Ruffalo). This is done frequently and sometimes they’re even flip-flopped, like what will most likely happen in Carol’s case for Blanchett and Mara. I guess that’s just the game, though.

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    GhostOrchid
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    What makes a Lead a “real” Lead? Screentime? Relevance/importance of the story? Something else?
    Anthony Hopkins was only about 17 Minutes in The Silence of the Lambs, yet he ruled the whole movie. He still does.

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    What makes a Lead a “real” Lead? Screentime? Relevance/importance of the story? Something else?
    Anthony Hopkins was only about 17 Minutes in The Silence of the Lambs, yet he ruled the whole movie. He still does.

    Jodie Foster ruled the whole movie. Period.

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    Etchie
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     So I wouldn’t think the Academy should veto their own nomination and placement of the person. 

     

     

    Ultimately ….. The  POV – Power of VETO   to  NULLIFY   a Supporting Acting Nomination SHOULD BE with the Acting Branch to be consistent with the Self-Governing Rule of The Academy. 

    The Nullification of the Best Original Song Nomination was handled by the respective & concerned Guild.

    This is to Preserve the INTEGRITY of the Nomination Process. 

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    Etchie
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    #191363

    A Good COMPROMISE for NULLIFYING  an Acting Nomination DEEMED Fraudulent …..

    Would Be ===>>>

    Allowing Multiple Nominations for an Actor-Actress per Acting Category.

    For this year, Cate Blanchett can be nominated 2x as Best Actress for Carol & Truth.

    OR ….. maybe ZERO as Blanchett could CANCEL herself OUT and face stiffer Competition with Rooney Mara in the Best Actress category.  

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