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    Reported by USA Today;

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/02/21/usa-today-fandango-exclusive-oscars-poll-hidden-figures-best-picture-academy-awards/98151406/

    8,000 movie goers were polled by Fandago as to whom they think deserves to win the Oscar most, and these were the results (percentage of votes are in brackets).

    Best Picture
    Hidden Figures (26%)
    La La Land (25%)
    Arrival (13%)
    Moonlight and Hacksaw Ridge (10% tie)
    Fences and Manchester by the Sea (5% tie)
    Hell or High Water and Lion (3% tie)

    Actor
    Denzel Washington (34%)
    Ryan Gosling (24%)
    Andrew Garfield (19%)
    Casey Affleck (15%)
    Viggo Mortensen (8%)

    Actress
    Emma Stone (44%)
    Natalie Portman (26%)
    Meryl Streep and Ruth Negga (13% tie)
    Isabelle Huppert (4%)

    Supp Actor
    Jeff Bridges (29%)
    Mahershala Ali (27%
    Dev Patel (21%)
    Michael Shannon (12%)
    Lucas Hedges (11%)

    Supp Actress
    Viola Davis (38%)
    Octavia Spencer (35%)
    Michelle Williams and Nicole Kidman (10% tie)
    Naomie Harris (7%)

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    M
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    Clearly these people are unfamiliar with Isabelle Huppert.

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    distain
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    Elle has only made 2 million dollars at the US domestic box office. Compared to every other movie on the poll, it’s severely underseen. And unlike critics and awards voters, moviegoers don’t get freebie screeners. It’s a totally understandble result for Huppert in that context. Had her movie done more buisiness at the box office and been seen by more people, I’m sure she’d have ranked higher.

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    Marco B.
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    I get why someone would vote for Hidden Figures. I watched it yesterday it everything was very likeable, evrything worked, and everything was so simple! I’m not giving a moral judgement, obviously. You can watch a film only for entertainment, and you can watch a film for intellectual and emotional enrichment. There isn’t a “right way” to watch a movie. Clearly those who voted see films as entertainment.

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    distain
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    Most of these results make a lot of sense. Hidden Figures won SAG ensemble and is the biggest phenomenon at the box office of all the BP nominees. People love the movie, despite it not being a “critic” type of film. LaLa Land had been the “chosen one” by critics and industry groups for months and months and the next BP winner, so it’s incredibly tough for Hidden Figures to overcome that. If it had a few weeks before the Oscars, it might have made a surge. But it’s probably no.2 right now.

    Denzel also feels obvious. He gives the strongest performance in the Best Actor field by far. Affleck coming in a very limp 4th place shows moviegoers did not buy the hype critics were trying to sell them about his performance being the best of the year or whatever.

    Emma is obvious as well. People love LaLa Land and she carries it. Portman plays a beloved American icon, so she’d be an obvious runner-up. And Huppert’s weak placement can be explained by no one in America having seen the movie, outside of critics and people who get to vote on awards.

    JefF Bridges and Mahershala Ali are virtually neck and neck, with a slight lead for Bridges. Which suggests to me that had Bridges actually managed to win a major award of any sort, he would have been Ali’s strongest rival for the Oscar. I think Ali is probably winning.

    Davis has been the obvious winner for months, which moviegoers agree with. The interesting result here is Octavia Spencer at a very close no.2, ahead of critics favorite (and presumed runner-up) Michelle Williams. Again, shows the moviegoer love for Hidden Figures was strong

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    Elle has only made 2 million dollars at the US domestic box office. Compared to every other movie on the poll, it’s severely underseen. And unlike critics and awards voters, moviegoers don’t get freebie screeners. It’s a totally understandble result for Huppert in that context. Had her movie done more buisiness at the box office and been seen by more people, I’m sure she’d have ranked higher.

    The general public stateside are not fans of subtitled movies.

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    distain
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    The general public stateside are not fans of subtitled movies.

    Yeah, subtitled movies are definitely a harder sell to the stateside public, but you have to admit that the subject matter badly hurts it’s appeal. The story of a middle aged French woman dealing with a rape would be a hard sell even in English. Even Amour, which got Emanuelle Riva a Best Actress nomination, managed to make 7 million at the US box office, with subtitles.

    Something like Amelie did 33 million at the stateside box office. Subtitled films can do well, but the subject matter needs to be somewhat appealing.

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    Its interesting, had Taraji P. Henson been nominated for Best Actress, she probably would have won the poll as well.

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    distain
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    Its interesting, had Taraji P. Henson been nominated for Best Actress, she probably would have won the poll as well.

    Henson would have given Stone some competition for sure. I think Hidden Figures will give Henson a lot of saved up credit for any future Oscar bid, so she should be pretty satisfied with how things worked out in the end.

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    Also, I think this poll helps confirm that Denzel’s SAG win wasn’t some “overdue” thing. The vast majority of moviegoers, like SAG members, thought Denzel gave by far the best lead actor performance of the year.

    Critics did an amazing job shoving Affleck down everyone’s throats for whatever reason, but it was always a hype job.

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    Please. If Denzel won the critic’s awards you’d be clicking your heels together saying how just it is, not that he would be “shoved down” anyone’s throat.

    In the article: “Casey Affleck’s is a quieter performance, so maybe Denzel Washington stands out a little more with audiences,” says Davis. “He’s been around for a while and he has a huge fan base.” Completely plausible. He’s pretty cool.

    No surprise Jeff Bridges won for the same reason. From what I’ve read other actors like Bridges and Washington as well. Bridges’s popularity just wouldn’t be enough to get the award.

    Gag for Ryan Sameface Gosling getting second place. Anyone but.

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    Denzel fans are pulling Fandango and other general public polls as receipts for defending their choice, because they have next to none critics choice awards. Next they’ll be trying with people’s choice award/teen choice/MTV movie awards.

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    The People (c) gave Jack and Jill $150 mill in box office revenue. I don’t think these polls would resonate that deeply with me even if Affleck or Mortensen won. More or less just data of mild interest.

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    Please. If Denzel won the critic’s awards you’d be clicking your heels together saying how just it is, not that he would be “shoved down” anyone’s throat.

    In the article: “Casey Affleck’s is a quieter performance, so maybe Denzel Washington stands out a little more with audiences,” says Davis. “He’s been around for a while and he has a huge fan base.” Completely plausible. He’s pretty cool.

    No surprise Jeff Bridges won for the same reason. From what I’ve read other actors like Bridges and Washington as well. Bridges’s popularity just wouldn’t be enough to get the award.

    Gag for Ryan Sameface Gosling getting second place. Anyone but.

    Davis is a pundit. He has to speculate and give some soundbites for the article. He doesn’t know “popularity” is the reason Washington and Bridges won heir respective polls (and Bridges only barely).

    The popularity argument dies a swift death, when you realise Meryl Streep only polled a measly 13% tie with Ruth Negga, getting soundly thrased by Stone and Portman. Meryl Streep is more popular than every actress she’s nominated with COMBINED. Streep has been nominated for 29 People’s Choice Awards and won 8 of them. If this poll was merely some popularity contest, Streep crushes all of them. Or least polls a much bigger percentage. You can make the argument that Streep is the single most popular actor on the poll (even with Denzel and Bridges in the mix).

    So yeah, lame argument. As with SAG, the polled movie goers went with the performances they liked most or found the best, and didn’t just the lazy “most popular” route (hence the low Streep percentage). Bridges and Ali are practically tied in percentage, so I’m guessing Bridges might have been the runner-up at SAG.

    If Denzel won the critics awards, of course I’d agree. Because it’d actually have been the honest and correct choice. Sometimes critics get it right, and sometimes they get it badly wrong. When Daniel Day-Lewis won all their awards for There Will Be Blood….they called it right. When they gave every possible award to Boyhood, they called it wrong, imho. Affleck is one of their Boyhood moments.

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    Denzel fans are pulling Fandango and other general public polls as receipts for defending their choice, because they have next to none critics choice awards. Next they’ll be trying with people’s choice award/teen choice/MTV movie awards.

    Streep has been nominated for People Choice almost 30 times and won it 8 times.

    On this poll, she could barely scrape a 13% tie with Ruth Negga.

    This is a pretty legit polling of how people feel about Affleck’s performance, and it’s clear they consider him a crazy overrated hype job. 4th place is terrible. Even 3rd or runner-up to Denzel would have looked decent.

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