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  • Boidiva02
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    #185683

    Can one of you savvy Oscar-watchers give me some clarity on something…
    Hillary Swank is a terrific actress, and has earned two Oscars, and yet… it seems the roles she has taken after winning her Oscars have failed to live up to her potential… how in the world can she win 2 Oscars and yet continue to accept the absolute stupiest movies?

    I mean the roles she took after Boy’s Don’t Cry:
    The Gift, The Affair of The Necklace, The Core, Insomnia… All terrible movies, dreadful movies, her perfromances in them are mostly horrible…

    and the roles she’s had directly after Million Dollar Baby:
    The Black Dhalia, Freedom Writers, The Reaping, P.S. I Love You, Amelia and Conviction.

    At least here a few of them seemed Oscar-worthy on paper, I could understand why she’d go for Freedom Writers or Conviction, even Amelia…

    And since 2011, the most noteworthy role she’s had was in The Homesman, a good film but she just didn’t have enough screentime nor did the film get proper distribution.

    So basicaly, what I’m asking is:

    What the heck is with a woman this talented taking such terrible, horrible roles, don’t her 2 Oscars mean anything to casting directors?

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    Icky
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    I haven’t watched it in like six years, but I hardly recall Insomnia being horrible.

    Her second Oscar win was suspect at best. But Swank has talent, and she gives consistently committed performances. But she’s not incredibly versatile. She’s at her best in non “girly girl” roles, yet she doesn’t work as an action hero, and she can’t really intimidate. She comes off as both frail and masculine, and that doesn’t fit with many film roles.  Also, she can be flat in roles where she doesn’t have to step outside of herself too much.

    Leading Oscars don’t have the cache they once did. You still have to work with the right people and make smart decisions and get lucky. That’s why it’s best to already be an established movie headliner before winning a leading Oscar. Still, she has those two leading Oscar wins, so she’ll continue to get opportunity, and she’ll likely strike gold again eventually.

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    KyleBailey
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    #185686

    Yeah Insomnia is really good. She was really good in it. She was very good in The Homesman too. I think she really deserves better work I think she is a great actress but gets the short end of the stick on roles 

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    babypook
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    #185687

    “The Gift, The Affair of The Necklace, The Core, Insomnia

    The Black Dhalia, Freedom Writers, The Reaping, P.S. I Love You, Amelia and Conviction. “

     

    Well, she could use some luck. And also, perhaps she could consider “mingling” outside of build ups to Awards shows. Just saying.

     

    The Gift might have done better than it did, although Swank wasnt close to being nomination worthy in it. I liked The Affair of The Necklace actually, but the film itself missed the mark somewhat. And I agree with those who say Insomnia is a fairly good film.

    As for The Core, gach. “We’re approaching the core boys”. With lines like these, it’s hard to fault her perf.

    Outside of PS I Love You, which is a trifling forgettable movie, I can see how the others would look like good, critically acclaimed projects.

    Hence the luck factor. She’s had it before. She could use it again.

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    Troy
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    I really like Swank.  I would hardly call any of her performances after either of her Oscar wins dreadful.   Insomnia is a great film and she held her own against Pacino and Williams.  The same with The Gift; hardly a terrible movie and she was very good with what she was given. She was also great in Freedom Writers, Conviction, The Homesman, Iron Jawed Angels and even The Resident.  More recently, she was really great in the little seen You’re Not You.   

    Her issue is, I think, that she isn’t your typical Hollywood starlet or leading lady, so the roles she gets, despite being a two-time Oscar winner, are already limited.   However, again, I do not think she has ever given what I would call a dreadful performance.  

    According to IMDB, she is set to star in Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritur’s television series The One Percent, along side Ed Harris, so who knows.  Maybe their will be an Emmy in her future.
     

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    M
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    #185689

    People confuse winning an Oscar with job security or legend status. It is neither. Think of winning an award as reflective of the season in which it was won and nothing else.

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    GhostOrchid
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    People confuse winning an Oscar with job security or legend status. It is neither. Think of winning an award as reflective of the season in which it was won and nothing else.

    Yeah, quite a lot of winners have starred in many movies hardly successful. Winning an Oscar is pushing your career for a moment and only few winners are able to keep getting good roles.
    Dianne Wiest, a two time BSA winner can’t even pay the rent for her NY appartment anymore and is only getting offered the roles of “nice moms”. Sally Field has gotten huge praise for her first lead role after more than a decade in film, but the film has been pushed to a 2016 release now.
    But Swank is still “young”, not even 40. I do think she can get nominated one more time, but I don’t see her winning another one, at least not soon.

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    manakamana
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    #185691

    She’s a wonderful actress, but it’s hard for her to find roles well-suited to her. She was good in The Homesman, and she did solid work in stuff like Conviction  — even Freedom Writers was…nice? But she excels in a particular niche. 

    Her first Oscar is one of the best ever handed out in that category. Her second wasn’t, but she was heading up the BP winner and for some reason that year prognosticators decided to frame it as a Swank vs. Bening rematch — and while I like Annette Bening, Being Julia was a chore and it would have been a poor win. To me it very clearly should have been a Moreno vs. Staunton race. 

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    harposboy
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    #185692

    Swank was extraordinary in The Homesman, an unusual movie that I think will only build in esteem in the coming years. I absolutley would have nominated her for Best Actress this year. Her first Oscar is well deserved and her second is fine (outside of Staunton I don’t see much to get excited about in that line-up).

    She’s a very talented actress, and the diversity of her filmography shows ambition, even if the films themselves haven’t been consistently good. I think she’s just a very unusal, atypical presence for American films. She reminds me in some ways of Holly Hunter, an indiosyncratic character with a distinctive look and sound who simply does not fit in the limited roles typically offered to women in Hollywood. I’d like to see her go the Nicole Kidman route and do some really challenging work with gifted directors. Alternately, I could see her really excelling on television, her talent and commitment would lead to some very interesting character development over the course of an entire season.

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    KyleBailey
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    #185693

    The Holly Hunter comparison is a good one. She hasn’t been doing much notabile work since The Incredibles. They should be the leads on #TrueDetectiveSeason3 

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    ENGLAND
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    #185694

    I am glads there is a topic for Swank. To me, she has an original style of acting, very similar to the actresses that I see on the TCM channel. I do believe this forum is a bit hard on her. Marion Cotillard and Helen Mirren arre the only “Lead Actress” winners of the 00s who have had great success after their wins. Her first win is one of the greatest ever and I believe she mad a great winner for 2004 (although Staunton had the best performance imo). I thought she should have been nominated for Conviction and The Homesman but I can understand why she did not get nominted. The good thing for her is that she is still young so who knows what the future holds for her.

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    ENGLAND
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    People confuse winning an Oscar with job security or legend status. It is neither. Think of winning an award as reflective of the season in which it was won and nothing else.

    I knew you were going to come here based on how much you hate her. People don’t confuse winning an Oscar’s with job security or legend status but winning 2 Oscars in the lead category puts her in the running for becoming a future legend.

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    Atypical
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    Most of those post-Oscar winning film roles for Hilary Swank are perfectly justifiable. Either they’re bids for mainstream success that failed (“Freedom Writers,” “The Reaping,” though at least here she should realize that her strengths are most certainly not in rom-com drivel like “P.S. I Love You” and “New Year’s Eve”) or sturdy Oscarbait vehicles on paper that didn’t materialize well on screen (“Amelia,” “Conviction,” “The Affair of the Necklace,” “The Black Dahlia,” “The Homesman.” etc.). She exists in kind of her own niche market with a masculine/feminine hybrid sensibility that isn’t easy to cast. Something I’d really like to see her do which she hasn’t quite done yet is go all-out action hero mode, like Linda Hamilton in “Terminator 2: Judgment Day” or her own “Aliens”-type series like Sigourney Weaver had in her heyday. I think Swank would kill it in that type of work instead of incessantly chasing Oscarbait. I mean, is two Academy Awards not enough for her? “Boys Don’t Cry” is one of the best Lead Actress wins I’ve seen easily, up there with the greats and certainly the standout from the nineties. That will ensure her film legacy if nothing else does. Even her work in “Million Dollar Baby” is growing on me in estimation somewhat as the years progress. Swank has “The One Percent” coming up which sounds intriguing. Television is a good place for her now. She was Emmy-worthy in both “Iron-Jawed Angels” & “Mary & Martha.” If she really wants to give a humorous wink-wink nod to her career in general, she’ll do a cameo in Ang Lee’s upcoming “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” lol. I wouldn’t count her out just yet.

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    #185697

    winning 2 Oscars in the lead category puts her in the running for becoming a future legend.

    Swank’s legacy is one legendary performance followed by an unpopular Oscar win at the expense of Annette Bening.

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    ENGLAND
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    [quote=”ENGLAND”]…winning 2 Oscars in the lead category puts her in the running for becoming a future legend.

    Swank’s legacy is one legendary performance followed by an unpopular Oscar win at the expense of Annette Bening.[/quote]

    According to? Not everyone feels Swank was undeserving. Bening was never a front runner. Plus, “Million Dollar Baby” will become more iconic than “Being Julia.” Swank legacy (so far) is winning 2 Oscars with 2 nominations. Even if you think she did not deserve her 2nd Oscar, she still won. Get over it.

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