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I sincerely want to know why everybody loves Mad Max Fury Road?

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  • FreemanGriffin
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    #202819

    O.K., I walked out on the movie after 40 minutes or so when I wnet ot see it at the movie theatre – so I decided to spend $1.99 and watch it in its entirety last night On Demand. In the movie theatre I got such a splitting headache that I intentionally kept the volume down so I could get through it. I honestly hate this movie – find it badly done in every single way – terrible direction, acting, pacing, design, music, everything! It’s a real headscratcher! It also feels nihilistic, mean-spirited, and insipid/vapid. What’s the point of it? I sincerely want to know what the defence for this movie is? I’m obviously in a minority of one. I have resented having to predict it for all these awards. I think I have it predicted in categories – incl. BP and Best Director – I resent it because much superior work (for example: Lenny Abrahamson’s phenomenal direction of Room) will get left out as a result of this weird love for this movie. Dont’ be snarky – just tell me what’s to love about it? I really want to know. Is it an age thing? I’m in my forties but it does seem to be appealing to older viewers as well as younger ones. The critics can’t all be fanboys! I’m predicting it for Oscar nominations for BP, Director, Cinematogrpahy, Production Design, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, Film Editing, Makeup & Hairstyling, and Visual Effects (9 nominations). I would so much rather The Martian win several of these awards, and that Creed would get nominations, esp. for Film Editing and Score. (I think MMFR won’t get nommed in the latter category). I so hope the academy nominates better films than this one but I have given up and predicted it….  

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    kvothe_snow
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    #202821

    Well I don’t think you’re here to have your mind changed about it so what’s the point? If you want opinions, then just go read critics reviews or end-of-life year lists or message boards. Just because it’s universally praised doesn’t mean you have to like it too.

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    Baby Clyde
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    #202822

    I completely agree. Absolutely loathed it. Not only was it headache inducing but I had absolutely no idea what was going on. Not a clue. Was there a plot? It was just 2 ours of relentless car chases and explosions. Nobody spoke for the first 45 minutes. I could have just watched the trailer 20 times and would have had exactly the same experience (Only saved an hour of my life and the price od admission). I’ve never been so bored and yet felt so assaulted at the same time.

    Like you I really resent having to predict it for anything (Although not as much as I resent having to predict Rooney Mara in Supporting).

    Far and away the worst film I’ve seen this year. Which is a real shame because I had been really looking forward to it.

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    Baby Clyde
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    #202823

    Well I don’t think you’re here to have your mind changed about it so what’s the point? If you want opinions, then just go read critics reviews or end-of-life year lists or message boards. Just because it’s universally praised doesn’t mean you have to like it too.

    Or you could just answer his perfectly civil question?

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    DamianWayne
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    #202824

    To say this has terrible direction (on top of everything else) is honestly baffling. Did we see the same film? 

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    #202825

    While I don’t love it like a lot of people do, I do really like it, so I understand when people say they loved it. 

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    Rinolo Twenty-two
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    #202826

    Because it’s fuck*ng awesome, best action movie in years. Terrible direction? You can hate it, but you can’t say that, it’s undeniable the direction was excellent, there was no need of dialog.

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    kvothe_snow
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    I completely agree. Absolutely loathed it. Not only was it headache inducing but I had absolutely no idea what was going on. Not a clue. Was there a plot? It was just 2 ours of relentless car chases and explosions. Nobody spoke for the first 45 minutes. I could have just watched the trailer 20 times and would have had exactly the same experience (Only saved an hour of my life and the price od admission). I’ve never been so bored and yet felt so assaulted at the same time.

    Like you I really resent having to predict it for anything (Although not as much as I resent having to predict Rooney Mara in Supporting).

    Far and away the worst film I’ve seen this year. Which is a real shame because I had been really looking forward to it.

    It’s funny you asked if this movie had any plot. Of all Oscar contenders, MM:FR probably has the simplest plot of all. It’s a car chase from point A to B, then back to A again. Was it really that hard to discern? But of course, the reasons why it worked so well are the subtexts of the plot – which are also pretty straightforward but can get ignored if you’re too distracted by everything else that goes on. There have been many post-apocalyptic films made, but MM:FR crunches up as much subtexts as it could. There’s Immortan Joe and his rule that seems to be an allegory of many tyrrants in history, who rules by controlling a resource (water) and some “charm” that is anchored on some made up religion (?Isis). His war boys seem devoted to him, to the point that they would sacrifice their lives for him (?jihad). Then there’s his control over women. In his authoritative patriarchal rule, women are treated as objects. Then you have the remarkably created role of Imperator Furiosa. This was a Mad Max movie, but Max was just there to support the adventure of Furiosa as she escapes with 5 breeders from Immortan Joe. If this were made by any other director, Max would have been the “weakly damsel-saving knight”, but Miller created Furiosa in such a way that she held up her own against Max. In a sense, Max and Furiosa became your rare “equal” male-female tandemn. Then you have the breeders – very easy to look at, but unlike, say the babes in Transformers, these women actually got their hands dirty (I thought the exposure of the pregnant belly to save Furiosa from Immortan Joe was a great scene). When they chanted “we are not things!” (to the sexual abusers, the sexists, etc.), you know they meant that to be interpreted in may ways. And then you have Nux (the war boy). I have watched a lot of high-octane action films, but I have not seen a better character arc than Nux. The way he converted from a devoted war boy to finally finding some love, and then sacrificing his life in the end…I thought was beautiful. 

    The lack of dialogue was also part of the charm of Mad Max. Furiosa and Max communicated through their gestures and nuanced facial expression. Max was a wanderer, a man who chose to be a loner – why wlse would he suddenly like talking and be diplomatic? Furiosa was a seasoned fighter and mistrusted anyone – why would she suddenly explain her goals in life to Max? Both were extremely pained and flawed individuals and yet at the moment of crisis, they knew they had to help each other without much melodramatic dialogue explaining each other. 

    And of course, you have the bigger theme that sets the tone of everything in this movie: end of the world. When the girls asked, “who killed the world?” You know they meant a couple of things – us for denuding the environment, and, well “men” for the violence that became rampant in the world. In a way, MM:FR (and the Mad Max universe) was an allegory to everything wrong in our world today (environmental neglect, sexism, women objectification, religious fanatacism, violence).

    It’s also pretty rare for a plot to be intertwined with the action. In majority of action films, the plot stops when the action starts, but here everything moves forward smoothly.

    Then again, this is just me. I may have seen it more than I should and probably interpreted it more than it deserves. 

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    24Emmy
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    #202828

    I enjoyed it as an action packed thrill ride with very impressive techs. I would’ve liked it a lot more if it didn’t lack substance and reason to care what was happening. I wanted more character moments. I love action movies, but this one went a little overboard on the thrills and forgot to take a step back and give us a reason to root for the characters.

    It’s very deserving of its tech wins and I’m perfectly fine with George Miller winning Best Director. But Best Picture of the Year? I don’t see how it’s a critics movie either. An action movie like this isn’t something they usually like. That’s award season for ya. You never really know lol.

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    Manuel Colon
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    #202829

    It was a very fun movie to watch, i don’t see why you think everything about it is bad.

    The makeup is outstanding, Inmortan Joe alone deserves nominations. Production Design and Visual Effect are very good too, the acting was pretty good, Charlize Theron did a good job considering it’s an action film, and Nicholas Hoult was my favorite, i found him very sweet. 

    The screenplay it’s not a strong point in my opinion, the story develops on a straight line road, but still i was surprised by how engaged a movie about cars riding through a road got me, basically Fast And Furious.  

    I understand how can you not love it, but it’s not as bad as you want it to be. To me, it’s a great action film and i liked it very much, a lot of fun. 

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    babypook
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    #202830

    Lololol!

    No you dont….

    So happy about the Critic’s Choice nominations!

    It’s as if they had a big, huge, evacuation/bowel movement.
    Those can be so emancipating sometimes.

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    kvothe_snow
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    #202831

    Sorry my reply was a novel. If you can’t get into the plot, I think the most remarkable feat about MM:FR is the directing. The editing, the stunts/practical effects, the music, the palette of colors chosen for day/night and that inferno scene, etc. are all truly amazing. It was a well thought out movie. 

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    Baby Clyde
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    #202832

    It’s funny you asked if this movie had any plot. Of all Oscar contenders, MM:FR probably has the simplest plot of all. It’s a car chase from point A to B, then back to A again.

    And that is precisely my problem. I go to the cinema to be told a story and this didn’t have one. If I wanted to see a car chase I’d go and see Fast and Furious. For obvious reasosn I’ve never done that. It felt like I’d walked in 20 minutes late and missed the set up, then spent the rest of the film trying to work out what the fuck was going on. Explosions and car chases are all very well but for me they need to be anchored to something. This just seemed like a Transformers movie with artistsic pretensions. Throw in a bit of religion, envirometalism and feminism but it’s still just Monster Trucks bashing each other up.

    The whole thing was just relentless. It felt like I was being banged over the head for 2 hours. I needed some light and shade but had none. I understand that some people will enjoy this but I hated it.

    I can appreciate all of the technical aspects and will have no problem at all if it sweeps the board there. Charlize was also great and it would be fun to see her nominated. For me though the direction was a mess. I can understand that it may have been technically great but if the end result is totally incoherant all the virtuosity in the world is pointless. Give me a good story well told over flashy special effects any day of the week.

    I’m not criticizing anyone elses taste. This film wasn’t objectionable or offensive or amateur, I just thought it was dreadful.

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    O.K., I walked out on the movie after 40 minutes or so when I wnet ot see it at the movie theatre – so I decided to spend $1.99 and watch it in its entirety last night On Demand. In the movie theatre I got such a splitting headache that I intentionally kept the volume down so I could get through it. I honestly hate this movie – find it badly done in every single way – terrible direction, acting, pacing, design, music, everything! It’s a real headscratcher! It also feels nihilistic, mean-spirited, and insipid/vapid. What’s the point of it? I sincerely want to know what the defence for this movie is? I’m obviously in a minority of one. I have resented having to predict it for all these awards. I think I have it predicted in categories – incl. BP and Best Director – I resent it because much superior work (for example: Lenny Abrahamson’s phenomenal direction of Room) will get left out as a result of this weird love for this movie. Dont’ be snarky – just tell me what’s to love about it? I really want to know. Is it an age thing? I’m in my forties but it does seem to be appealing to older viewers as well as younger ones. The critics can’t all be fanboys! I’m predicting it for Oscar nominations for BP, Director, Cinematogrpahy, Production Design, Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, Film Editing, Makeup & Hairstyling, and Visual Effects (9 nominations). I would so much rather The Martian win several of these awards, and that Creed would get nominations, esp. for Film Editing and Score. (I think MMFR won’t get nommed in the latter category). I so hope the academy nominates better films than this one but I have given up and predicted it….  

    Just because you don’t like Mad Max: Fury Road, it doesn’t mean it’s a bad film. I hate when people don’t like something and then try to make others hate it. Mad Max is the best film of the year, and you’ll have to stick with it for a couple of months until awards season is over. 

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    kvothe_snow
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    #202834

    It sounds like you’re averse to action films in general. I mean, it’s an action film. There’s a reason why people describe it as a “high-octane” of a film. It’s unapologetically bombastic all the way.

    I mean, if drama films can be dreary from start to finish (The Hours, Birdman, etc), why can’t an action film be itself – an aciton film from start to finish? In the action genre, I don’t think there’s a better movie in the last 20 years. This genre film is fighting for an academy, and if it gets in, it will be one of the bravest things that the Academy will be known for. 

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