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  • Etchie
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    #185072

    IF 2 or more Individual Nominations per Oscar Acting Category were ALLOWED , Then …..

    • Category Fraud could have been minimized.
    • Release Dates will not be compromised.
    • Total Nomination Tally-Count would be higher for some actors & actresses like Meryl Streep. 
    • What else ???

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    In 1979 Best Supporting Actress, Meryl Streep could have been nominated for:

    1. Kramer vs. Kramer
    2. The Seduction of Joe Tynan (vice Jane Alexander for Kramer vs. Kramer)
    3. Manhattan (vice  ???)

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    In 2008 Best Actress, Kate Winslet could have been nominated for:

    1. The Reader
    2. Revolutionary Road (vice Melissa Leo for Frozen River)

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    In 1985 Best Actress, Meryl Streep could have been nominated for:

    1. Out of Africa
    2. Plenty (vice Jessica Lange for Sweet Dreams)

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    In 2001 Best Actress, Nicole Kidman could have been nominated for:

    1. Moulin Rouge
    2. The Others (vice Renee Zellweger for Bridget Jones’ Diary)

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    What were the other SCENARIOS, INSTANCES, REALIGNMENTS, OFFSHOTS, etc…..  that could have been.

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    Aunt Peg
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    Diane Keaton 1977 best actress winner for Annie Hall also had Looking for Mr. Goodbar (vice Marsha Mason for The Goodbye Girl)
    Sissy Spacek 1986 best actress nominee for Crimes of the Heart also had ‘night, Mother (vice Jane Fonda for The Morning After)
    Julianne Moore 2014 best actress winner for Still Alice also had Maps to the Stars (vice Marion Cotilard for Two Days, One Night)
    Michael Douglas 1987 best actor winner for Wall Street also had Fatal Attraction (vice Marcello Mastroniani for Dark Eyes)
     

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    Etchie
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    QUESTION – Could the eventual Winner WON if they had another individual nomination that could split their WIN votes ESPECIALLY IF there’s a very strong other competition or runner-up/s ???

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    For example:  In 2008, if Kate Winslet was both nominated as Best Actress for The Reader & Revolutionary Road, could Meryl Streep WON for Doubt instead?  At BAFTA, Winslet won still for The Reader but it could be a hometown advantage.

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    Aunt Peg
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    I sort of doubt it (no pun intended) however as Sigourney Weaver & Julianne Moore amongst others have shown us is that you can score double acting nominations and go home Oscarless.

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    Aunt Peg
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    Some more:

    Richard Dreyfuss 1977 best actor for The Goodbye Girl also had Close Encounters of the Third Kind (vice Marcello Mastroniani for A Specal Day);

    And one year that could have really have changed the eventual winner if more than 1 nomination for acting performance could be nominated in the one catergory was best actor 1993. Both Daniel Day-Lewis & Anthony Hopkins were nominated for In the Name of the Father & The Remains of the Day respectively, They were both also in contention for The Age of Innocence & Shadowlands respectively, potentialy leading to lack of nominations for either or both Laurence Fishbourne & Tom Hanks who went onto win, give that there wasn’t much love for Hank’s in the major catergories. Which leads one to speculate (and we have no way of knowing) how many people have made the final five by grabbing the last spot and then go onto win!

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    TomHardys
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    I think I’m alone on this one but I’m approving of this rule, I guess. Yeah it sucks that Kate Winslet was snubbed for Revolutionary Road but her nom (and win) for The Reader shouldn’t had happened in the first place. This rule makes sure that diversity is allowed and small actors like Melissa Leo at that time are recognized despite not being lucky enough to have several baity leading/supporting roles to be in contention with. That would be unfair.

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    RobertPius
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    Dennis Hopper in 1986 for Blue Velvet.  He got two Golden Globe nominations. I’d take out Denholm Elliot.

    (BTW “vice” I’ve never seen that word used like this before. Is that a goldderby thing or did I just miss noticing that before.?)

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    Etchie
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    What about:

    In 2003 Best Actor, Sean Penn could have been nominated for:

    1. Mystic River
    2. 21 Grams (vice Jude Law for Cold Mountain)

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    On Streep’s Doubt bid in 2008, I vividly recall few days before The Oscars, Dame Joan Collins (of Dynasty fame) bravely declaring that it would be Sean Penn (Milk) & Meryl Streep (Doubt) prevailing as the most likely winner VERSUS Mickey Rourke (The Wrestler) & Kate Winslet (The Reader).  That Joan Collins voted for Penn & Streep eventhough she’s close or associated with The Weinstein Company (of The Reader).

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    1983 John Lithgow was nominated for Terms of Emdearment but should have been for Twilight:Zone The Movie.

    Vice: Charles Durning definitly.  

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    I think I’m alone on this one but I’m approving of this rule, I guess. Yeah it sucks that Kate Winslet was snubbed for Revolutionary Road but her nom (and win) for The Reader shouldn’t had happened in the first place. This rule makes sure that diversity is allowed and small actors like Melissa Leo at that time are recognized despite not being lucky enough to have several baity leading/supporting roles to be in contention with. That would be unfair.

    Yeah, but Winslet’s performance in “The Reader” is also very deserving of the nomination. I think she deserved two nominations, for “The Reader” and “Revolutionary Road” with Streep being kicked off the category for her overrated performance in “Doubt”.

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    The New York Film Critics Circle have long had the policy of naming its recipients for the sum of work during the year. Such a decision would help name the Best Actor not the Best Performance. Some of the more memorable recipients include:

    2014 Best Actress Marion Cotillard for The Immigrant and Two Days, One Night

    2011 Best  Actor Brad Pitt for Moneyball and The Tree of Life

    2011 Best Supporting Actress Jessica Chastain for The Tree of Life, The Help and Take Shelter

    1990 Best Actor Robert De Niro for Awakenings and GoodFellas

    1987 Best Actor Jack Nicholson for The Witches of Eastwick, Broadcast News and Ironweed

    1979 Best Supporting Actress Meryl Streep for Kramer vs. Kramer and The Seduction of Joe Tynan

    1972 Best Actress Liv Ullman for Cries and Whispers and The Emigrants

    1954 Best Actress Grace Kelly for The Country Girl, Rear Window and Dial M for Murder

    1945 Best Actress Ingrid Bergman for The Bells of St. Mary’s and Spellbound

    1935 Best Actor Charles Laughton for Mutiny on the Bounty and Ruggles of Red Gap

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    The New York Film Critics Circle have long had the policy of naming its recipients for the sum of work during the year. Such a decision would help name the Best Actor not the Best Performance. Some of the more memorable recipients include:

     

    1979 Best Supporting Actress Meryl Streep for Kramer vs. Kramer and The Seduction of Joe Tynan

     

    STRANGE that New York Film Critics Circle (NYFCC) did not include MANHATTAN on their citation while Los Angeles Film Critics Association (LAFCA) & National Society of Film Critics (NSFC) INCLUDED MANHATTAN …..

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    Noé
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    Nicole Kidman, 2001. Definitely. She was on a peak and both performances were outstanding and also polar opposites.

    Maybe Jessica Chastain in Supporting Actress? The Help + The Tree of Life / Take Shelter.

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    [quote=”OnTheAisle”]

    The New York Film Critics Circle have long had the policy of naming its recipients for the sum of work during the year. Such a decision would help name the Best Actor not the Best Performance. Some of the more memorable recipients include:

     

    1979 Best Supporting Actress Meryl Streep for Kramer vs. Kramer and The Seduction of Joe Tynan

     

    STRANGE that New York Film Critics Circle (NYFCC) did not include MANHATTAN on their citation while Los Angeles Film Critics Association (LAFCA) & National Society of Film Critics (NSFC) INCLUDED MANHATTAN …..

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    That is really odd. I think Streep’s just kind of average in Joe Tynan but quite wonderful in her few scenes in Manhattan.  Her complete disdain for Allen’s character is quite funny. (and apparently also how she felt about him in real life.)   I wonder if Pauline Kael had anything to do with that. She ruled the NY Film Critics Awards back then. Did she like Manhattan?  

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    [quote=”etchie88″][quote=”OnTheAisle”]

    The New York Film Critics Circle have long had the policy of naming its recipients for the sum of work during the year. Such a decision would help name the Best Actor not the Best Performance. Some of the more memorable recipients include:

    1979 Best Supporting Actress Meryl Streep for Kramer vs. Kramer and The Seduction of Joe Tynan

    STRANGE that New York Film Critics Circle (NYFCC) did not include MANHATTAN on their citation while Los Angeles Film Critics Association (LAFCA) & National Society of Film Critics (NSFC) INCLUDED MANHATTAN …..[/quote]

    That is really odd. I think Streep’s just kind of average in Joe Tynan but quite wonderful in her few scenes in Manhattan.  Her complete disdain for Allen’s character is quite funny. (and apparently also how she felt about him in real life.)   I wonder if Pauline Kael had anything to do with that. She ruled the NY Film Critics Awards back then. Did she like Manhattan?  [/quote]

    Nope. “What man in his 40s but Woody Allen,” Pauline Kael asked, “could pass off a predilection for teen-agers as a quest for true values?”

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