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if norbit was shelved to summer do you think eddie Murphy would of won

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  • Turner Unruh
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    #117973

    Eddie Murphy was 100 times better than his other nominees don’t post if you haven’t seen dreamgirls

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    TomHardys
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    I don’t think so. I’m not saying that Alan Arkin was any better (Steve Carell totally stole the show in that movie) but had not he won, it was Djimon’s to lose. Or Wahlberg’s. Murphy was probably the third that year.

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    RobertPius
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    Murphy was the heavy front runner going in. It was a really big shock when he lost. Norbit probably reminded people of how inconsistant his career has been but I think he lost due to personal reasons. The experts usually say he angered a lot of people thoughout his career and it caught up with him (kind of like other surprise losers Lauren Bacall and Winona Ryder.)
      

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    CAROL-CHANNING
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    I don’t think Norbit had anything to do with Murphy losing.  I think him losing was a result of:

    1. Slight backlash against Dreamgirls after it had so much buzz and ended up being bad.
    2. Wanting to award someone in the Little Miss Sunshine ensemble (especially the person who could be seen as a little overdue for an Oscar).  I, personally, would have picked Kinnear, but I think Arkin was still a good choice.
    3. Murphy rubbing people the wrong way during awards season. 

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    babypook
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    I don’t think Norbit had anything to do with Murphy losing.  I think him losing was a result of:

    1. Slight backlash against Dreamgirls after it had so much buzz and ended up being bad.
    2. Wanting to award someone in the Little Miss Sunshine ensemble (especially the person who could be seen as a little overdue for an Oscar).  I, personally, would have picked Kinnear, but I think Arkin was still a good choice.
    3. Murphy rubbing people the wrong way during awards season. 

    This. It appears they wanted to give it to Jennifer Hudson and that was it. I was really happy for Jackie Earle Haley’s return that year. Also, I was really glad they gave it to Arkin. What a grandpa! I loved him.
    His win and his momentum was so 11th hour; one of the terrific things about Oscar.

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    CAROL-CHANNING
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    [quote=”LFTSPICE44″]I don’t think Norbit had anything to do with Murphy losing.  I think him losing was a result of:

    1. Slight backlash against Dreamgirls after it had so much buzz and ended up being bad.
    2. Wanting to award someone in the Little Miss Sunshine ensemble (especially the person who could be seen as a little overdue for an Oscar).  I, personally, would have picked Kinnear, but I think Arkin was still a good choice.
    3. Murphy rubbing people the wrong way during awards season. 

    This. It appears they wanted to give it to Jennifer Hudson and that was it. I was really happy for Jackie Earle Haley’s return that year. Also, I was really glad they gave it to Arkin. What a grandpa! I loved him.
    His win and his momentum was so 11th hour; one of the terrific things about Oscar.[/quote]

    Yeah, it seemed like there was a little bit of hostility against Dreamgirls for getting everyone all excited and not delivering.  I felt like they wanted to deflate the ego surrounding the movie.  They weren’t going to snub Hudson because the performance was just too popular.  And I felt like they just threw in sound mixing because it’s a musical and that’s an award musicals tend to win.  But Murphy and the songs “Listen” and “Love You I Do” were victims of the Dreamgirls backlash. 

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    Baby Clyde
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    I always has Arkin down to win. I don’t think Norbit helped Murphy’s case I don’t think it made much difference to the end result.

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    benbraddock
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    There was no reason to award Eddie Murphy for Dreamgirls.
    Simply put, he was NOT even the best and his career had been
    so wishy washy even in all of his comic-roles…Arkin was an easy
    choice for me that year…although i felt Jackie Earle Haley was the best
    Norbit didnt hurt Murphy’s chances…he has made 10 films just as bad..LOL
    I, begrudgingly think Hudson’s oscar was over rated as was her terrible performance
    in Dreamgirls…She just had tooo much unstoppable hype where Murphy had none..

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    he was great in dreamgirls, but there’s no way the oscars is gonna award him

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    Renaton
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    Yeah, I agree with Carol Channing’s reasons, and I also think once Arkin actually got in, it was actually hard to imagine him losing. Let’s remember that the guilds LOVED Little Miss Sunshine. It had won WGA, PGA and most importantly (to support an acting win) SAG. It seemed difficult to believe that a film the industry liked so damn much would walk away with only one Oscar for Screenplay. Arkin felt like the logical place to give it a second Oscar (Breslin wasn’t gonna kill Hudson’s momentum) , especially since the film had a great shot at winning BP, so it was expected to win more. I remember by the time the oscar rolled, I was predicting Arkin too.

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    vinny
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    even if it was shelved, I don;t think Murphy would have won. Arkin still would have won.

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    Eddie Murphy is too polarizing a personality to ever take this without resistance. The resistance won out: an old man won the old man category news at 11. Not shocking but a disappointment none the less because Murphy is a genius. I said genius and that doesn’t apply to a lot of Oscar winners either.

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    Jose Manuel Garcia
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    During that season, someone here said there were no way the Academy will give 3 acting oscar to afro-americans, and Eddie Murphy was the weakest among all the other luckily possibilities Hudson and Withaker.
    Apart of that, some others said he was to over-confidence during oscars season. His performances when he received the pre-oscar awards were very boring…
    and someone point out that the academy never forgets those who anger them.
    I bet “Norbit” was a good excuse to justify, that they were voting to someone else. 

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    Turner Unruh
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    he was great in dreamgirls, but there’s no way the oscars is gonna award him

    Why not he won everything else

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    babypook
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    Eddie Murphy is too polarizing a personality to ever take this without resistance. The resistance won out: an old man won the old man category news at 11. Not shocking but a disappointment none the less because Murphy is a genius. I said genius and that doesn’t apply to a lot of Oscar winners either.

    I’ve had my fingers crossed for a long long while for Murphy. When he first broke into films, I thought he was an amazing talent. His films were also entertaining, not least because of him.
    But then, the endless string of crap to crappier films began; not that I’d given up hope. I think he’s terrific in Bowfinger for instance, although that was some time ago. I didnt think he was quite that good in DGs; plus, the script nearly reduced him to a cliche, which he barely rises above.

    Your comments on Arkin are very insulting to me btw. Maybe if I’m lucky (you as well), I’ll get to be as old as Alan.

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