It didn’t hurt (movies acting Oscar winners had same year)

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  • Scottferguson
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    Here’s my contribution to the Oscar acting discussion which interests most of the rest of you far more than me. This topic does interest me, since it relates to the politics of winning and the X factors often involved.
    Below is a work in progress of winners who had significant assists because of other movies that opened the same year, or in a couple cases in the new year before the voting was over. The ones in bold are cases in which I suspect the winner won because of the significant assist of one or more other significant films, which they might otherwise have been nominated for. It isn’t just a list of their other films the same year.

    I might have missed a case or two when the winner had two acting nominations and won for one of them, and there are certainly other potential cases. In a few, the winning role is far less famous than another one the same year (see Mary Astor and Burl Ives as two key examples).   

        2012 – Jennifer Lawrence/SLP – Hunger Games


                 Anne
    Hathaway/Les Miz – Dark Knight Rises


    2010 – Melissa Leo/Fighter – Treme (tv)


    2008 – Kate Winslet/The Reader – Revol Rd


    2005 – George Clooney/Syriana – Good Night & Good Luck


    2004 – Jamie Foxx/Ray – Collatoral


    1993 – Holly Hunter/The Piano – The Firm


    1987 – Michael Douglas/Wall Street – Fatal Attraction


    1982 – Jessica Lange/Tootsie – Frances


    1978 – Jane Fonda/Coming Home – Comes a Horseman, California
    Suite (Xmas), China Syndrome (opened
    )


    1977 – Diane Keaton /Annie Hall – Looking for Mr. Goodbar


                 Richard
    Dreyfuss/Goodbye Girl – CE3K


    1971 – Cloris Leachman/Last Picture Show – Mary Tyler Moore
    Show (tv)


    1965 – Lee Marvin/Cat Ballou – Ship of Fools


                 Julie Christie/Darling – Dr Zhivago


    1963 – Margaret Rutherford/The VIPs – The Miss Marple movie
    series


    1961 – Sophia Loren/Two Women – El Cid


    1958 – Burl Ives /The Big Country – Cat on a Hot Tin Roof


    1956 – Yul Brynner/The King & I – The 10 Commandments


    1955 – Ernest Borgnine/Marty – Bad Day at Black Rock


    1954 – Grace Kelly/The Country Girl – Rear Window


    1952 – Gloria Grahame/The Bad & the Beautiful – The Greatest
    Show on Earth


    1943 – Charles Coburn/The More the Merrier – The Constant
    Nymph, Heaven Can Wait


    1942 – Teresa Wright/Mrs Miniver – Pride of the Yankees,
    Shadow of a Doubt (opened)


    1941 – Mary Astor/The Great Lie – The Maltese Falcon


    1939 – Thomas Mitchell/Stagecoach – Gone With the Wind


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    Halo_Insider
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    Thanks for the list. Do you think that Yul Brynner’s win could also be attributed to his work opposite Ingrid Bergman in Anastasia? He did win the NBR for all three of his performances that year, and the fact that it won Bergman Best Actress likely implies that many voters were aware of it (and him).

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    Scottferguson
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    I should have included Anastasia for Brynner as well – good catch

    What this does is explain some wins that surprise people (Kelly beating Garland in 54, Lee Marvin for Cat Ballou, Gloria Grahame) – the X factors (including career awards, hurt by previous wins, how the competition divides up, being in a much seen/competitive movie) usually are much more important than the quality of any given performance.

    This is one that doesn’t get discussed as much.     

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    Logan
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    Would Hunter have had a more difficult time winning without The Firm? She swept the precursors.

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    hanzz
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    Sandra Bullock and Julia Roberts definitely had the “America’s Sweetheart” thing going for them their respective years, as they showed they had box office muscle (The Proposal/Runaway Bride) and then the capital-A Acting chops (The Blind Side/Erin Brockovich). In fact, I remember when I was very young and I watched Julia Roberts win, since I didn’t know any better, and since the award is colloquially just called “Best Actress”, I thought they were giving it to her for being, like, Actress of the Year for all the stuff she was in. 

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    David Buchanan
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    I’m fairly certain that Al Pacino had Glengarry Glen Ross the same year he won for Scent of a Woman

    Formerly known in the forums as PianoMann.

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    Scottferguson
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    Logan – the double nomination pretty much guaranteed Hunter’s win – you’re right though that she was the likely winner anyway

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    SaraR
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    The flip side of this topic is interesting as well. Actors whose momentum for one role was squashed by their performance in another movie. Cases where it did hurt. A popular recent example is Eddie Murphy with Dreamgirls and Norbit.

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    GhostOrchid
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    What about Meryl in 1979?

    She had also Manhattan and The Seduction of Joe Tynan out that year and won a few critic awards for all three performances.

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    Scottferguson
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    The Streep and Pacino mentions are also all valid.

    What I am going for in part are other roles that might have been nominated had the winning film not been out there, and these other performances factored into these wins. Streep and Pacino might have won otherwise even without these though, as is the case in some of the mentions. In others, I think it was the key factor in what were close races. 

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    Beau S.
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    There are also scenarios where having multiple performances per year doesn’t help as well.

    This happened to Julianne Moore twice: She was nominated for two Oscar-worthy performances in 2002 (Best Supporting Actress for The Hours and Best Actress for Far From Heaven) and lost both. She had Magnolia and her nominated performance in The End of the Affair in 1999 and lost.

    Annette Bening had Mother & Child and her nominated performance in The Kids Are All Right and lost.

    Stanley Tucci had Julie & Julia and his nominated performance in The Lovely Bones and lost.

    Sigourney Weaver had two nominated performances in Gorillas in the Mist and Working Girl in the same year and lost both.

    Emma Thompson had two nominated performances in The Remains of the Day and In the Name of the Father in the same year and lost both, though to be fair she had recently won an Oscar the year before.

    Cate Blanchett had two nominated performances in Elizabeth: The Golden Age and I’m Not There in the same year and lost both, though to be fair she had recently won an Oscar three years earlier.

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    Well, then Hathaway is also valid. She would have won for Les Miz even without TDKR, I’m sure.

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    Scottferguson
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    I think Hathaway needed Dark Knight less than Lawrence needed Hunger Games. Hathaway though did win one of her critics’ awards as a joint citation though.

    I am not sure that a bad film is ever a key factor, including Murphy’s case, though I’m not certain. Murphy lost mainly because of Arkin’s popularity and the due factor for him and being in a BP nominee more than any negative factors attached to Murphy in my opinion.

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    Logan
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    Jim Broadbent had Moulin Rouge! and Bridget Jones’s Diary to go along with Iris.
    Kevin Spacey had Seven to go along with The Usual Suspects.

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    allabout oscars
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    Back in the 30’s thru the 60’s almost every
    oscar winning actor has at least 1 other performance
    during the same “oscar calendar year’…

    I always thought that if the 2nd performance was in a hit film
    and the performance was also critically acclaimed..it certainly helped.

    if the 2nd performance was really bad  and in a flop film..it hurt…

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