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  • Joe Burns
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    I remember when I first started getting into  the whole online Oscar scene about 7 years ago and I immediately saw that Hudson was intensely disliked by nearly everyone, even being called the worst winner of all time.  People call her performance laughable, immature, labeled her as just a singer, stated that the Oscars aren’t the grammy’s, ect.  Noawadays,  I don’t see a whole lot has changed in that opinion. I don’t think Dreamgirls is beloved at all, even amongst musical fans like myself  and Hudson’s win seems to still be frowned upon, although her career has certainly thrived since then.  But what do you guys think of this performance?  Do you like it? Or do you think it’s as terrible some have said it to be?  What did you guys think of her when she was competing for the Oscar?  How does that compare to now? 

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    CAROL-CHANNING
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    Dreamgirls isn’t a very good movie, but it does have some very good moments.

    Honestly, anyone who was playing Effie White was going to win that Oscar.  It’s a massive role that excites people.  As long as a woman is appropriately cast and can sing the song, people love it.  I WOULD love to see what would have happened if Fantasia had actually gotten the role.  I know that Fantasia was VERY strongly rumored for quite awhile and news of her incredible auditions were circulating.  I’d kill to see those audition tapes.  Jennifer Hudson’s name was in the mix, but I remember the announcement of her playing the role kind of just randomly popped up after hearing weeks of “Fantasia, Fantasia, Fantasia”.  I’m assuming some people on the team wanted Fantasia, and others wanted Jennifer.  Jennifer probably won the role because: 1. She LOOKS more like an “Effie” moreso than Fantasia due to her stockier build and 2. Jennifer is a MUCH safer, less divisive singer.  People either love or hate Fantasia’s voice and style of performing.  If that’s the case, I understand why Jennifer was chosen, but all the “safe” and “too polished” choices were what made the movie lacking to me.  Still, I think Jennifer did a terrific job.

    Now, about her Oscar win, I think it’s important to note that the category is called “Best PERFORMANCE by an Actress…”  It’s not called “Best ACTING by and Actress…”  As much as people don’t want to admit it, there is so much more that goes into an acting performance than just acting.  If acting was the ONLY thing that got people excited when they see a performance, then we wouldn’t have most of the movie stars who are famous today.  Let’s get real, most actors and actresses break into the industry because they’re beautiful (or at least interesting looking) in some sort of way.  Or because there is something striking about them.  Rooney Mara is very talented, but would she be getting all these roles if she didn’t have those mesmorizing eyes?  Or her ever-so-slightly off-beat personality?  Would Cate Blanchett be so amazing to watch if there wasn’t a regality to her natural essence?  I can name any actor and tell you five reasons as to why their famous and interesting to watch on screen without even mentioning their technical acting skills.  Michael Keaton is my favorite actor, and I think he can do no wrong, but I’m fully aware that his performance in Birdman wouldn’t have moved me as much if I didn’t know his personal backstory.  Same with Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler.  Same with Gabourey Sidibe in Precious.  And those are PERFECTLY legitimate reasons for a performance to move someone.  So many things factor into performances than just acting, and that’s what makes acting such a subjective art.

    Jennifer Hudson lept off the screen in that movie and gave the most talked about performance of the year.  It was a star-making turn in a massive role.  Her vocal performance was thrilling, so I understand why people voted for her.  She was also helped by the fact that her competition was a little girl, two foreign unknowns, and a woman who had JUST won the award two years prior.   

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    Saulo Correa Ferreira
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    I honestly think her performance was very underrated. It is not the best of all time but it really is a competent performance and not laughable at any way. Her song was a highlight for sure, but the scene where she is told that Beyonces character would take the lead is quite touching because of her acting.

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    Joe Burns
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    I think all actors have a personal essense that always shines through in each of their performances, no matter how different they are.  It’s how one knows to cast them in a role- They  see the part of you that is in the character and then cast you if they see that you are the one for it.  I do think however that some actors are amazing at their craft and are not just stars and I feel that I can appreciate that.  I do get your point though.  

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    Baby Clyde
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    I WOULD love to see what would have happened if Fantasia had actually gotten the role. 

    THIS^^^

    Fantasia would have killed it acting and singing. Whilst I was excited that JHud got the role I was really upset that it didn’t go to Tasia. I’m sure you’re reasons are correct.

    I also agree with your point about it being an award for a performance. Her acting wasn’t great but that song was a total show stopper and clearly the best performance of the nominees. Personally I would have gone with Kikuchi but have no real problem with Hudson winning. Just wish it had been Fantasia instead.

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    Her performance is God-awful and her Oscar is one of the most undeserved ones in the history of Oscars.

    She’s a brilliant singer, but a terrible actress. She has proved my opinion ever since. You can play around with the category name all day long, but it’s still an acting Oscar and not a Grammy.

    Anyone who say that Blanchett, Barazza, Kikuchi or even Breslin are on the same level as she is, or to even suggest that Hudson is better than these ladies in “Dreamgirls”, should probably go and look at the flowers. Blanchett should have won – category fraud or not. Or Kikuchi. But basically anyone should have won over Hudson.

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    manakamana
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    I can sympathize with Jennifer Holiday feeling like Hudson had taken on the role she originated and perfected in a subpar way that helped Hudson advance her own career. Which is fine, obviously Hudson is better at conveying interesting emotion through song than regular acting, and while her songs were well performed they still didn’t compare to how the role could have been

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    Mladen Vukcevic
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    The only thing that can be compared to this atrocity is Gwyneth’s win. And the saddest part is that Blanchett was, once again, on the other side. Those two performances were infinetly superior than those Academy chose. 

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    Atypical
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    Jennifer Hudson was perfectly deserving of her Oscar win, and her “And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going” more than proved that. The constant belittling of both her and “Dreamgirls” is beyond grating and tiring at this point, yet right on cue. Moving on.

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    awardsdontmatter
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    I’m always gonna be in the defending camp as well. i thought she was fantastic! everybody always shits on her acting in Dreamgirls, but my favorite part was actually her quieter, non-singing parts. i know that may make me a bit of a freak, heh. from the first scene, backstage at that local contest, through the Matrin Luther king speech, storming out of the recording of ‘Heavy, heavy’ (the “or else WHAT?” line!) to the second part of the movie, where she’s living broke with her daughter, the scene in the welfare office.. she was completely honest and mesmerizing. it’s easy and quite lazy to dismiss her as a serious actress and as a winner that year, but she owned that role inside and out and nobody else was talked about more that year. 

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    OnTheAisle
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    My God, Jennifer Hudson is a revelation in this film. She plays the long suffering Effie White who is as talented as she is wounded. We never really understand what prompts her raging insecurity, but it informs every choice Hudson makes as an actress. So much fuss was made over her amazing rendition of the classic “And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going” that the remainder of her good work was overlooked.

    My first moment of realization that I was watching a landmark film performance comes early in the musical. Effie is singing in the garage studio owned by Curtis Taylor, Jr. Effie is in love for the very first time. She looks at Curtis with great passion, trust and adoration. Bill Condon makes a very specific directorial choice as Effie sings “Love You I Do.” Rather than feature Curtis, Condon positions the camera where Curtis is standing in the room. Thus, Effie is actually singing to us the audience. She gazes at us with great passion, trust and adoration. Hudson’s emotive performance of joy and abandon is infectuous. In that moment we take her to our hearts. As the indignities pile upon Effie later in the film, we have already committed to her, and she has earned our sympathy and support in her plight.

    The other factor that enhances Hudson’s performance is the work of costume and make up. Watching the movie again, I was taken aback by Hudson’s youth. She is actually the age of Effie White in the first hour. It makes the performance so true. Effie’s joy and pain remind us of our own first love and all the other firsts we endure in early adulthood. Later in the film, the artists dressing Hudson make choices that hide that youthful vigor. In the final musical performance, Effie wears a sparkly yet shapeless gown, a weave and a headband, choices that middle aged women often select in an effort to hold back the years. These choices work here to age Effie effectively.

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    kaneki
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    #202701

    kikuchi should won

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    Madson Melo
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    #202702

    Great singing, so so acting.

    Kikuchi is the real winner of that Oscar.

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    babypook
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    #202703

    O no….Jennifer Hudson again…lol.

    Well, I guess there were reasons why American Idol  was such a hit with audiences.

    I like Jennifer Hudson’s persona, but for me, she was at the bottom of the perfs nominated that year. Personally I would have left her off the ballot. And yet, I’m happy now for her (not her win).
    Gach. This subject is crazy making. I can recall my reaction to both her nom and her win back then, which has morphed into something else.

    And I especially recall what she was wearing that year at the ceremony of ceremonies. “Star Trekkish” wings.
    She’s come a long way since then, although, I have never thought she was any kind of actor. And yes, I’ve seen her films. Lol.

    She cant act, but that performance in DG was spectacular.       

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    Everyone loves Effie’s song but my favorite moment of the film was when Beyoncé sang Listen.

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