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  • dude93
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    #156516

    If Julie Andrews had been cast as Eliza in My Fair Lady instead of Mary Poppins, do you think she would’ve won the Oscar for Lady or would the actress playing Poppins have won?

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    Reiza Rinah Ray
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    No, the Lady who would play Mary Poppins is a win. You see, it’s all about the screenplay and the director. Lookat Jennifer Lawrence: she was the 14th choice of David O. Rusell to play Tiffany in Silver Linings Playbook because her audition didn’t stand out, but she finally got it after all those actresses cancelled out (Angelina Jolie cancelling was he BIGGEST mistake in the industry!)

    If the screenplay is any good and the director acts upon his job and makes better the actress, then the actress would probably be acclaimed. Look at Meryl Streep.

    In addition, Monster‘s win for Charlize Theron was the best, because they were not even nominated for anything, as well as Halle Berry (The Monster’s Ball) the year next. Their screenplays and directors (mostly the screenplay) was written just to outline them and it made them Oscar winners. Oh, I forgot Sandra Bullock (The Blind Side) and Kathy Bates (Misery). 

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    Choice Chayawat
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    Julie Andrews would have won for My Fair Lady.

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    tonorlo
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    The problem with this scenario is that to remove Andrews from “Poppins” into “Lady” and try to figure out what would have happened Oscar-wise is a domino effect with pretty broad implications.

    “Poppins” likely would have been a huge commercial and critical success with several of the actresses who were seriously considered for the part prior to Andrews; it’s not impossible to imagine Broadway darling Mary Martin or Angela Lansbury getting nominated for their take on the part. (After years of trying, I still can’t wrap my head around a Bette Davis version of the character.)

    Would Andrews have been nominated for “My Fair Lady”? Quite possibly; the fact that Gladys Cooper managed to be nominated for little more than a cameo appearance definitely shows that the film struck a chord with the acting branch of the Academy. But Andrews would NOT have had the groundswell of industry sympathy working for her that contributed in no small measure to her win for “Poppins.” She certainly knocked the property she was given out of the park at her first time at bat, so again, not impossible that she could have won for “Lady,” but without the sympathy factor, could she have withstood the critical acclaim for the two dramatic heavy-hitters in her category, Anne Bancroft and Kim Stanley?

    Assuming the actress who played “Poppins” in this scenario was nominated, the most likely nominee to have been pipped from the post would probably have been Sophia Loren (as over-the-top as Debbie Reynolds is in “The Unsinkable Molly Brown,” her multiple-nominated vehicle was very much on the Academy radar, and because of the bizarre rules governing the eligibility of foreign-language films at that time, Loren was the sole nominee for her vehicle in 1965).

    Reynolds was an industry veteran, Bancroft had just won two years earlier, Stanley was the acclaimed stage actress breezing into town for who knew how long (not very, as it turned out)… Newcomer Andrews and the actress playing Poppins would have had plenty to handle in terms of competition. 

    And then again, it’s possible that Andrews or the “Poppins” actress could have been left off the ballot, making way for (most possibly) Bette Davis in “Hush… Hush, Sweet Charlotte,” (going-for-broke in another Grand Guignol melodrama) or Ava Gardner (the dame can actually act when she puts her mind to it) OR Deborah Kerr (always a classy stand-by) in “The Night of the Iguana.”

    Bottom line: and it’s a pity for sure, but an age-old truth from the very inception of the Oscars: more than screenplay or director or anything on the technical end, the x-factors built into an acting nominee’s personal narrative are the paramount keys to getting the win. As brilliant as Andrews is in “Poppins,” the industry tiff at her loss of “My Fair Lady” cannot be overlooked in her trajectory from contender to nominee to winner.

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    Baby Clyde
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    So many good points made here but I still think she would have won if nommed for My Fair Lady.

    You’re right it was her snubbing for the role of Eliza that lead to her win for Mary Poppins (No way she was winning for it otherwise) but My Fair Lady won 8 Oscars anyway including Picture, Actor and Director.

    It seems unlikely that the leading lady would have lost out.

    Of course the crucial casting of Mary Poppins may have made all the difference. If the role had gone to my dream candidate Irene Dunne then I doubt they would have snubbed her for a 6th time.

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    Madson Melo
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    She would have won for My Fair Lady. Had she lost that year, she would win the next year for The Sound of Music, and probably Christie would only win in 07, taking away Cotillard’s only Oscar. What a rollercoaster lol

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    Granted, Mary Poppins is one of my favourite movies ever, and Julie Andrews is one of my all-time favourite performances ever in that film, it would be a tremendous loss to the entire world if she was not in that film. However, she should have won for Sound of Music the next year.

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    Granted, Mary Poppins is one of my favourite movies ever, and Julie Andrews is one of my all-time favourite performances ever in that film, it would be a tremendous loss to the entire world if she was not in that film. However, she should have won for Sound of Music the next year.

    I agree she definitely should have won for The Sound of Music.

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    tonorlo
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    Of course the crucial casting of Mary Poppins may have made all the difference. If the role had gone to my dream candidate Irene Dunne then I doubt they would have snubbed her for a 6th time.

     

    Irene Dunne, Baby Clyde? Hmmm… That’s an interesting suggestion, one I don’t think I’ve ever heard before.

    Ironically, Dunne was indeed shortlisted for possible candidates for the Reverend Mother in Andrews’ “The Sound of Music,” which went into production just months before “Mary Poppins” premiered.

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    I’d love to know in what universe someone would think Bette Davis + Mary Poppins would be a good match – WTF?

    It’s interesting that Andrews should win her Oscar for arguably her most one-dimensional character; her Maria is far more nuanced as is her Millie and Victor/Victoria. There’s no range in her Poppins, and yet there’s something so irresistable about that performance. 

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    Mary Poppins had 13 nominations and My Fair Lady and Becket had 12 each. Poppins was a major force and strong contender for a lot of victories. Andrews winning for Poppins seems to make sense just for what a major success Poppins was. If she was in My Fair Lady and another actress in Mary Poppins with everything seemingly going right with Mary Poppins I wouldn’t have been surprised if Andrews lost for My Fair Lady. The argument that Andrews drove the success of Mary Poppins with her performance makes it almost less likely that the award was just for having been passed over for MFL. A lot of the press for MFL revolved around how the songs were written just for the voice of Rex Harrison and how it was nearly as much a Rex Harrison vehicle than any actress playing Eliza Doolittle.

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    If Julie Andrews had been cast as Eliza in My Fair Lady instead of Mary Poppins, do you think she would’ve won the Oscar for Lady or would the actress playing Poppins have won?

    This is an intriguing question. At the very least, Julie can at least sing. I can see her in the part with no problem. Writing songs for Harrison when he basically “talk-sings” throughout strikes me as ludicrous.

    Would she have won for it?

    Wtf knows? Maybe. She was a delight then as she still is imo.

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    Someone correct me if I misstep here, but the way I remember reading it somewhere was that Disney originally intended to actually make the film much closer to the original with a sort of nasty/sour Poppins and that’s where he envisioned Davis in the part.  Strange to think he ever entertained any other vision than what would ultimately be made, of course had he gone that way and it was still a musical I would imagien Davis would have been dubbed.  

    I’d love to know in what universe someone would think Bette Davis + Mary Poppins would be a good match – WTF?

    It’s interesting that Andrews should win her Oscar for arguably her most one-dimensional character; her Maria is far more nuanced as is her Millie and Victor/Victoria. There’s no range in her Poppins, and yet there’s something so irresistable about that performance. 

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    Someone correct me if I misstep here, but the way I remember reading it somewhere was that Disney originally intended to actually make the film much closer to the original with a sort of nasty/sour Poppins and that’s where he envisioned Davis in the part.  Strange to think he ever entertained any other vision than what would ultimately be made, of course had he gone that way and it was still a musical I would imagien Davis would have been dubbed.  

    I’d love to know in what universe someone would think Bette Davis + Mary Poppins would be a good match – WTF?

    It’s interesting that 

    s should win her Oscar for arguably her most one-dimensional character; her Maria is far more nuanced as is her Millie and Victor/Victoria. There’s no range in her Poppins, and yet there’s something so irresistable about that performance. Andrew

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    Joe Burns
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    JayDF:  I don’t know if that’s true, but I can definitely say the Mary Poppins in the book is far more in the Bette Davis vein, so yes, I can see her playing that version of Mary Poppins.  However, I’m happy it didn’t work out that way.  The movie is perfect exactly the way it is, practicaly  perfect in every way as a matter of fact.  Andrews is lovely, though definitely not Oscar-worthy.  She was far better in The Sound Of Music.  

    As for her winning for My Fair Lady,  I think she would have had a good shot, but the sympathy for her was the ace in the hole that helped her triumph for Mary Poppins, so it’s possible it could have gone another way, but I think BabyClyde is right on the mark:  It clearly had  very strong, across the border Accademy support,   so that would have swept up Andrews.  

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