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  • Beau S.
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    Last night, I rewatched The Reader and Revolutionary Road. When I first saw it when it came out, I remember starkly disliking the film (coming from a usual fan of Mendes’ work) but thinking that Winslet, DiCaprio and Shannon were all worthy of nominations, and Winslet being worthy of the win. Winslet won that year for The Reader, another film that when I saw it I starkly disliked (from a director whose previous work I had liked) but thought Winslet to be Oscar worthy regardless. I had always regarded her Revolutionary Road performance to be better, and have always said that if she were nominated for that performance I would given the win to her and for The Reader, she is narrowly edged out by Hathaway.

    After rewatching the films, I found myself with even more of a deep hatred for Revolutionary Road – everything disgusted me. Winslet’s performance that I once considered Oscar-worthy now came off as over the top and lacking realism. Shannon’s performance did not hold up either – it lost the spark it had the first time, and I no longer think he deserved the nomination (he’s capable of much better). The only aspect that held up was DiCaprio’s performance. The Reader, on the other hand, aged very well. I enjoyed it much better this time around, and I actually went from thinking it a mediocre movie to actually pretty good movie. Winslet was really connected to the character the whole time and was firing on every emotional cylinder, feeling both Hanna’s shame but at the same time remorselessness. After reviewing both films, I now wholeheartedly think Winslet was nominated for the right film and wholeheartedly think she deserved her win.

    Personally I think Winslet should have three Oscars: Best Supporting Actress for Sense and Sensibility and Best Actress for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and The Reader (though had Thurman been nominated for Kill Bill vol. 2, I would go with her).

    What are your thoughts on Winslet’s Oscar history and performances? 

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    Kevin Groome
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    I agree with you that she should have three Oscars, for each of those films.  I think she probably came close to a nomination in 2000 after being nominated at SAG for Quills, and that each of her nominations she probably placed in the top 3 vote getters for each year.  I think she clearly came in 2nd in 1995 for S&S, which she should’ve won for over Mira Sorvino’s good but not great performance in MA.  I think she came in 3rd for Titanic, though she herself thinks the performance wasn’t her best, H B-C and Julie Christie, imo, were pretty weak, and Pam Grier should’ve been nominated.  In 2001, I think her performance ranks third behind Jennifer Connelly & Helen Mirren because Maggie Smith’s nomination was just on name-sake and for Robert Altman’s sake, since Cameron Diaz was far more worthy in Vanilla Sky and Marisa Tomei’s character doesn’t do much in In the Bedroom.  In 2004, though many believe Annette Bening would’ve been the 2nd choice to Hilary Swank, I think it was Kate.  I think she should’ve won over Swank’s overrated work in MDB.  ESOTSM was by far Kate’s best career performance, a complete departure from anything she had ever done before.  It should’ve been her win, especially with the winning script.  In 2006, she probably ranked second or third, with Helen deservedly winning and Meryl probably outranking her based on her name and she hadn’t been nominated in four years (a rarety for her career, only matched by her streak between Postcards from the Edge and TBOMC).  Clearly, Kate was a landslide in 2008, as she had the sentiment and the support of virtually everyone, with two strong performances, in somewhat weak films (despite TR getting nominated for Best Picture).  Having been out of the pack for 5 years, I believe her work in LD, though unseen, will get her a nomination.  She’s clearly liked in the Academy, and Jason Reitman has done well with his women before, and if the film is as good as his other films, I think she’s definitely in. 

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    Tye-Grr
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    I do adore Kate Winslet. She’s my favorite working actress. She’d have three wins from me as well: Best Actress for ‘Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind’ and ‘Revolutionary Road’ or ‘The Reader’, and Best Supporting Actress for ‘Sense and Sensibility’. I will admit that I have not seen ‘The Reader’ since I first saw it, but I remember being very impressed with her but not liking the performance more than that in ‘Rev Road’. Maybe, like yourself, I’ll flip-flop after rewatching it. 

    Winslet has never given a bad performance in my opinion. She hasn’t always been Oscar-worthy either for that matter, but none-the-less she’s fantastic. Even in a small part of an ensemble film like ‘Contagion’, I thought she was brilliant. And she can be very funny. I loved her in ‘Extras’, and even in fluff like ‘The Holiday’ she’s great.

    Also, her debut in ‘Heavenly Creatures’ has to be one of the all-time best film debuts ever.  

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    Baby Clyde
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    Great at Kate Winslett is, like Glenn Close, I don’t think she’s actually ever deserved an Oscar win.

    Had she been nommed for ‘Revolutionary Road’ she’d have easily got my vote.

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    Miss Frost
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    She was entertaining in “Eternal Sunshine” but in no universe was she better than Staunton (Or Swank for that matter) that year.

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    black30
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    Great as Kate Winslett is, like Glenn Close, I don’t think she’s actually ever deserved an Oscar win.

    Fcuk off. That’s why some many legends are Oscar less and your novice favorite Cher has one.

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    Last night, I rewatched The Reader and Revolutionary Road. When I first saw it when it came out, I remember starkly disliking the film (coming from a usual fan of Mendes’ work) but thinking that Winslet, DiCaprio and Shannon were all worthy of nominations, and Winslet being worthy of the win. Winslet won that year for The Reader, another film that when I saw it I starkly disliked (from a director whose previous work I had liked) but thought Winslet to be Oscar worthy regardless. I had always regarded her Revolutionary Road performance to be better, and have always said that if she were nominated for that performance I would given the win to her and for The Reader, she is narrowly edged out by Hathaway.

    After rewatching the films, I found myself with even more of a deep hatred for Revolutionary Road – everything disgusted me. Winslet’s performance that I once considered Oscar-worthy now came off as over the top and lacking realism. Shannon’s performance did not hold up either – it lost the spark it had the first time, and I no longer think he deserved the nomination (he’s capable of much better). The only aspect that held up was DiCaprio’s performance. The Reader, on the other hand, aged very well. I enjoyed it much better this time around, and I actually went from thinking it a mediocre movie to actually pretty good movie. Winslet was really connected to the character the whole time and was firing on every emotional cylinder, feeling both Hanna’s shame but at the same time remorselessness. After reviewing both films, I now wholeheartedly think Winslet was nominated for the right film and wholeheartedly think she deserved her win.

    Personally I think Winslet should have three Oscars: Best Supporting Actress for Sense and Sensibility and Best Actress for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and The Reader (though had Thurman been nominated for Kill Bill vol. 2, I would go with her).

    What are your thoughts on Winslet’s Oscar history and performances? 

    Babson? Er, Babson Lacrosse? Lol.

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    She was entertaining in “Eternal Sunshine” but in no universe was she better than Staunton (Or Swank for that matter) that year.

    I completely disagree. I think her performance in ‘Eternal Sunshine’ is beautiful. She gets to be funny, but heartbreaking, fierce, loving… You see her going through every emotion. And she never, ever comes off as over-acting or fake. Not once. I think it’s a sublime performance, probably my favorite of hers, period. And her chemistry with Jim Carrey is PERFECTION,

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    Am I the only one who finds Kate Winslet to be kinda overrated? That being said, I would easily have awarded her for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, because I loved that movie. Her performance, for once, didn’t scream ‘GIVE ME AN OSCAR’; she was loose, fun, and like her character to be as fickle as her hair color, which only added to the charm. If not her, then my vote would have been for Imelda Staunton. Her other nominations?….not so much. 

    My guesstimated rankings:

    Sense and Sensibility – 3
    Titanic – 5
    Iris – 4
    Eternal Sunshine – 4
    Little Children – 5
    The Reader – 1 (Really should have been Revolutionary Road instead) 

     

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    Winslet was sensational in “Revolutionary Road.” I wish she had won her Oscar for that role over “The Reader” if she had to win that year as opposed to previous years and nominations. “The Reader”‘s still as awful as ever, so as much as I adore Winslet, her win for this role is sad and bittersweet. 

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    I actually disagree with the statement that each of Winslet’s performance was in the top 3.

    In 1995 she was second or third, yes.
    In 1997 she was fourth or fifth. There is no way she had more votes than Hunt, Dench and Bonahm Carter.
    In 2001 there is no way she was ahead of Connelly, Mirren and probably Smith.
    In 2004 there is no way she was ahead of Swank, Bening and probably Staunton.
    In 2006 she was probably fifth – with Mirren, Streep, Dench and even Cruz having much more acclaim and momentum.

    On the Revolutionary Road / The Reader: I wasn’t impressed with her in RR and I’ve always considered Shannon way over the top. It’s DiCaprio – and I usually don’t even like him – who was the interesting aspect of the film to me. But once again, it’s a very flawed film. Maybe because I’m an obsessiven fan of the novel and Yates. On The Reader: It’s another novel I liked a lot and the film focused way too much on the affair aspect and ignored what made the novel so special. And I consider Winslet miscast. But RR is the better performance to me.

    Anyway, I would have given her the Oscar for Iris.

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    [quote=”TaraLauder21″]She was entertaining in “Eternal Sunshine” but in no universe was she better than Staunton (Or Swank for that matter) that year.

    I completely disagree. I think her performance in ‘Eternal Sunshine’ is beautiful. She gets to be funny, but heartbreaking, fierce, loving… You see her going through every emotion. And she never, ever comes off as over-acting or fake. Not once. I think it’s a sublime performance, probably my favorite of hers, period. And her chemistry with Jim Carrey is PERFECTION, [/quote]
    She and Jim Carrey were perfect in ESOTSP. It’s a crime Carrey got snubbed but the fact that they honored the Screenplay i think balances that out. Btw, what was the reaction towards the film then? Was it ever a big factor? Now it is considered among the best pictures of the decade, but what was the critical percetion towards it then?

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    Her 1st nod: Sense and Sensibility. It looks easy in retrospect to say that she should have won but she wasn’t even 20 at the time and who would have thought that she will evolve into one of the most important leading ladies of the screen?! Maybe it’s good that she didn’t win, given how her career took off compared to poor Mira Sorvino’s. She must have been pretty close though.

    Her 2nd nod: Titanic. She was the strongest acting element of the film but as the film was taking everything else I think there was no rush to award her. If anyone was going to win acting Oscar for “Titanic”, it would have been Gloria Stuart. I think that Judi Dench was 2nd and Helena Bonham Carter was 3rd with Winslet 4th and Christie 5th. 

    Her 3rd nod: Iris. That’s actually pretty close year and I, for one, was not a fan of Winslet’s work there. It’s fantastic she has made history with this nomination but I’d nominate either Cameron Diaz or Dakota Fanning over her. I think Helen Mirren was 2nd and Maggie Smith was distant 3rd with Tomei and Winslet either 4th or 5th. I’d rather nominate her for Quills earlier on. 

    Her 4th nod: Eternal Sunshine… My MVP was Jim Carrey and my favorite storyline was that of Kirsten Dunst and Tom Wilkinson. Winslet was very good but I doubt she was much of a threat to win as it was basically a rematch between Swank and Bening with Imelda Staunton looking like the strongest alternative. Not that the Globes are the best indication but Bening winning there for “Being Julia” over Winslet was very telling. 

    Her 5th nod: Little Children. Pretty fantastic year, even given that 5 nominees were set in stone months prior, as was the winner.

    Her 6th nod: The Reader. It was finally her year with 2 acclaimed performances. Her supporting nods and wins for The Reader were not the worst examples of category frauds but were still pretty bad. They screwed her over for pushing this film into earlier award season than it was originally planned. I think her work on Revolutionary Road is slightly stronger but might be seen as a little bit repetitive given Little Children (the same way for Mendes and American Beauty). I’m glad she finally won and it was deserving in this bunch of nominees. And, hey, look – Streep, Hathaway and Leo still won in just a few years!

    And now… where is she? Jason Reitman, it’s your call to bring her out into the spotlight once again. I liked her in Carnage but film itself didn’t live up to expectations. And then Mildred Pierce earned her all the raves but it’s TV. I prefer Nicole Kidman, Cate Blanchett and Julianne Moore who all take more risky projects but I respect her great deal, although less after Contagion and especially Movie 43

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    [quote=”Baby Clyde”]Great as Kate Winslett is, like Glenn Close, I don’t think she’s actually ever deserved an Oscar win.

    Fcuk off. That’s why some many legends are Oscar less and your novice favorite Cher has one.[/quote]

    Wow!!! That’s a whole new take on things. A really fresh perspective you’ve brought to the debate.

    I’ve never heard that argument from you before. It’s certainly food for thought and something I’m going to have to go and have a long hard think about now.

    Thanks for opening my eyes.

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    I loved Revolutionary Road but to be honest I didn’t think she would get nominated for it. The Reader was just that great of a role for her and she deserved the win for it. Now, lets go back to the year that changed ger life: the year Titanic came out. She absolutely derved that Oscar and was robbed.

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