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  • cinephil
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    Just re-watched “The Mirror has Two Faces” and I have to say that I am still surprised Lauren Bacall lost the Oscar. Honestly, I think she did a great job and would have been a memorable winner. However, I also need to rewatch Binoche. What are your takes on this subject? Deserved upset of Binoche? Bacall robbed? How did it even happen after Lauren had won both the Globe and the SAG? Hopefully we get some discussion here! 🙂

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    Beau S.
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    It happened because everybody in the Academy watched/loved The English Patient and many Academy members didn’t watch The Mirror Has Two Faces.

    Of the lineup Binoche deserves the win but Renee Zellweger should have won for Jerry Maguire.

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    24Emmy
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    The English Patient is one of those Colin Firth British period dramas. The Academy eats those up.

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    cinephil
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    So it was not necessary the quality?

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    Troy
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    Bacall was nominated because she was Bacall.   Her performance was nothing to write home about and definitely not Oscar worthy.  Binoche deserved to win; really any of the nominees were more deserving of the win over Bacall.

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    Tyler [Last Name]
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    Lauren was better in The Mirror Has Two Faces than Juliette was in The English Patient in my opinion. But it was close.

    FYC: Ready Player One. Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, Visual Effects, Original Score, Production Design, Director and BEST PICTURE (make it happen Oscars!!)

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    vinny
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    Honestly, out of all the nominees I think that Joan Allen was the best but Binohe is my second favorite out of the group. Becall was great but I would rank her in third.

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    KT
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    #154189

    I can’t live in a world where Juliette Binoche doesn’t have an Oscar.

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    This is an example of the heartbreak of pitting deserving
    actors against one another. Both women deserved the Oscar.




    Lauren Bacall, despite a career of creating iconic cinema, was
    dismissed by Hollywood for her beauty and her marriage to a much older
    established star. It wasn’t till much later in her career when she proved
    herself as an actress with a pair of Tony Award winning performances that
    opinions changed. At best a vanity project for its star, The Mirror Has Two Faces provided Bacall a role that she imbued
    with a depth of emotion that is riveting. In response to a question from her
    daughter on how it felt to be beautiful in her youth, Hannah pauses and speaks
    movingly of the joy she felt.




    Juliette Binoche is a strong actress in the role of a
    lifetime. She was and remains celebrated for vivid portrayals in small, yet
    strong films. Her work in The Unbearable
    Lightness of Being
    , the Colors
    trilogy and Damage had earned her a strong reputation as a versatile actress. In
    The English Patient, her character,
    also like Bacall’s named Hana, Binoche creates a palpable performance of joy. I
    am hard put to find a performance in the history of film that better captures
    the joy of great love and passion than Binoche creates in Hana’s love for Kip.




    Bacall was the expected winner having won Screen Actors
    Guild and Golden Globe Supporting Actress honors. Yet many were vocal in their
    desire not to hear anyone speak in terms of gratitude to Streisand who was at
    the nadir of her popularity within the film community. Morning after analysts
    following the Oscars blamed association to Streisand as the reason for Bacall’s
    loss.




    The Academy finally made amends to Bacall with an honorary
    Oscar in 2009


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    Anthony
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    It has been a long time since I have seen The Mirror Has Two Faces, but I don’t remember that wowed by Bacall.

    Juliette Binoche, on the other hand, was the saving grace of The English Patient for me. The film had strong performances and was visually stunning (kind of like Out of Africa) but was pretty much a lengthy bore….and it was Binoche who stood out the most and I found to be lovely.

    Joan Allen was also wonderful in The Crucible in a role that can easily just slip into the background and be nothing.

    Marianne Jean-Baptiste gave a very real performance that never seemed forced….watching her at times made me feel like I was watching a documentary.

    Barbara Hershey’s performance was good from what I recall but it also needs a rewatch.

    At most, I’d probably rank Bacall a solid 4th place, maybe 5th….and that isn’t to say she was weak like any other people I’d place in 5th place.

    I do think Renee Zellweger could’ve been here.

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    Gain
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    Juliette Binoche, on the other hand, was the saving grace of The English Patient for me. The film had strong performances and was visually stunning (kind of like Out of Africa) but was pretty much a lengthy bore….and it was Binoche who stood out the most and I found to be lovely.

    I agree.The English Patient was such a bore but Binoche was great. 

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    The English Patient is one of those Colin Firth British period dramas. The Academy eats those up.

    He had a small supporting role. Period drama maybe but nothing to do with Firth specifically. Fiennes was lead or a lead of Bp winner SL and BP nominee QS and then TEP. English patient just became a steamroller and benefitted Binoche at the end and Bacall couldn’t hang on to her lead which was really based mostly on legend status.

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    RobertPius
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    In Oscar chats Tom always mentions Bacall  as someone who lost because they just didn’t like her. Same as what whappened with Eddie Murphy. (BTW I’m just repeating the Goldderby analysis!!! I don’t really know who likes anyone in films!! Don’t shoot the messenger!!!)

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    Baby Clyde
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    Many years ago on these boards he said she lost as she was known to be ‘a notorious c*nt’. HA!!!

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    Choice Chayawat
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    [quote=”24Emmy”]The English Patient is one of those Colin Firth British period dramas. The Academy eats those up.

    He had a small supporting role. Period drama maybe but nothing to do with Firth specifically. Fiennes was lead or a lead of Bp winner SL and BP nominee QS and then TEP. English patient just became a steamroller and benefitted Binoche at the end and Bacall couldn’t hang on to her lead which was really based mostly on legend status. [/quote]

    I think 24Emmy meant that as a joke. Colin Firth coincidentally appeared in three British period dramas (The English Patient, Shakespeare in Love and The King’s Speech) that went on to win BP. And many consider them to be among the worst films to ever win BP.

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