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January 28, 2017 at 11:38 am #1201997251
Sorry it’s been since September since my last poll I just haven’t had time, but now I do. My last poll was for Jake Gyllenhaal in Brokeback Mountain and 70% voted him as lead while 30% voted for supporting. Now I’m very curious what everyone thinks of Viola because I have read some posts that say she’s leading in the film. Me personally I consider her Supporting because throughout the entire movie she supports Denzel’s character but I also see the argument for lead because she has a huge presence over the film, so vote away!January 28, 2017 at 11:56 am #1201997260
If you watch Feces objectively then there’s no way you can construct an argument that she could be lead. Even when she is the center of a scene her character (and her snot) is clearly supporting.January 28, 2017 at 12:20 pm #1201997270
A third option on the poll should be “Whatever she wants”. She could’ve gone either way and it would’ve made sense. Clearly this time SHE WANTS IT and she went with the easier path, which at the time of the decision, was Supporting.
We’ll never know if a storyline would’ve developed in her favor once people knew she was in Lead, we don’t know if she’s big enough now (after her 2011 loss, her show and so on) to take anybody down and win Lead, or if Stone and La La Land would’ve still been unbeatable, also at that time Jackie was still supposed to be a big deal and Portman was supposedly going to greatly benefit from that and I don’t think Hupper was a thing yet.
Also, Fences isn’t that good (it got easy BP and Screenplay nominations). I don’t think the film itself would’ve helped her for Lead as it was probably going to be necessary for her to win.
All those questions make for an easier supporting actress decision. But a Lead nomination would’ve happened easily for her…the win, I don’t think so.January 28, 2017 at 12:42 pm #1201997287
Why are we still talking about it? As all posters here know I’m huge category fraud hater and even I believe she’s supporting. It’s not even borderline case. She doesn’t have her own story. She’s literally supporting Denzel’so character. Case closed.January 28, 2017 at 12:54 pm #1201997304
In films like this an argument could be made that the relationship of the couple leads the story and not just one person. If it wasn’t for the last 15 minutes, it would have been an easier call for supporting. But the way it is, I’ll say borderline.
But for sure, she’s more lead than Lawrence in SLP(who has zero scenes from her perspective) and some other lead actress winners. I also don’t see much difference between Viola’s role in Fences and Riva’s in Amour. Their partners are the clear leads but they are prominent enough in the story to be considered co-leads. And the ”She’s just on the background, just reacting for the most part” can also be applied to her.January 28, 2017 at 12:56 pm #1201997307
Lead. She has what, 15 minutes less screen time than Washington, at most?
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Someone’s counted their screentime. She has over 30 minutes less screentime than him.January 28, 2017 at 12:58 pm #1201997308
For no reason at all it’s a two hour nineteen minutes ENDLESS film. 30 minutes less than Washington who’s almost in all of it, she might be a logical lead if she wants to be.January 28, 2017 at 1:54 pm #1201997338
I want to see Kevin B. Lee’s screen time breakdown.January 28, 2017 at 5:18 pm #1201997409
I think she lead bc IMO the story ends of being HER story.January 28, 2017 at 5:47 pm #1201997414
Voted for supporting.January 28, 2017 at 5:54 pm #1201997417
Davis went supporting because despite industry goodwill and the best tape in her Emmy lineup for a consecutive nomination she lost to the young white girl. To avoid that despite losing her two Oscar bids to a foreign beauty and a entitled hag she has to play her hand smartly.January 28, 2017 at 5:57 pm #1201997420
How crudely you describe various esteemed actresses…January 28, 2017 at 6:02 pm #1201997423
It’s borderline but I’d say lead; she doesn’t have much to do the first half but dominates the second half, emotionally speaking. But The Help was borderline too and she went lead. She clearly just wants to win the damn thing.January 28, 2017 at 6:06 pm #1201997426
Davis went supporting because despite industry goodwill and the best tape in her Emmy lineup for a consecutive nomination she lost to the young white girl. To avoid that despite losing her two Oscar bids to a foreign beauty and a entitled hag she has to play her hand smartly.
“Foreign beauty” “entitled hag” When Viola doesn’t win for her theatrics and snot (though she was miles better than Cruz), be grateful she’s winning for another theatrical, yet three-dimensional performance.