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  • RobertPius
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    category fraud? what is the story behind that year? Did anyone else stand a chance at winning? Do you think Fletcher would have won in Supporting?

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    Every time Jack Nicholson won an Oscar so did his female co-star in Best Actress. Fletcher and Hunt’s wins can be explained away that easily if Oscar lovers pay attention to how these things pan out. Look for the patterns. They point to power and popularity. 

    Also screen length had little to do with whether an actor was campaigned lead or supporting. Back then they were more willing to let someone with lesser screen time compete in the major category if they so choose.

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    I personally thought Fletcher deserved her lead nomination. She is very important to the story, and her performance sticks with you after the viewing. Nurse Ratched has become a thing of pop culture as well, which helps; it can be said that the 1970s was a difficult decade in terms of finding enough films with strong female leads. This could be why arguably weaker performances would win Lead Actress (eg Glenda Jackson, A Touch of Class). And yes, Fletcher would have won in supporting, but it’s great she won in lead.

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    babypook
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    Louise Fletcher’s Nurse Ratched is one of the most iconic bitches on screen. Cold, sinister, a sociopath in white shoes. Nobody nominated with her stood a chance that year. She wins.

    This is another terrific year for me, where I liked each and every film nominated and/or won, including FLF.

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    I personally thought Fletcher deserved her lead nomination. She is very important to the story, and her performance sticks with you after the viewing. Nurse Ratched has become a thing of pop culture as well, which helps; it can be said that the 1970s was a difficult decade in terms of finding enough films with strong female leads. This could be why arguably weaker performances would win Lead Actress (eg Glenda Jackson, A Touch of Class). And yes, Fletcher would have won in supporting, but it’s great she won in lead.

    Glenda Jackson was brilliant in A Touch of Class! 

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    While I can sort of see the Supporting claim, I do think Louise Fletcher was deserving to be in Lead and deserved to win….had she been in Supporting, I would support a win there as well.

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    Kevin Jacobsen
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    Much like Anthony Hopkins in The Silence of the Lambs, Fletcher’s presence in the film is felt even when she’s offscreen. In that sense, putting her in Lead Actress is justified, IMO. The Academy definitely had more of a liberal sense of Lead and Supporting back then, and Fletcher would probably be submitted in Supporting and win easily if the film came out today, but she would have also easily won in Supporting in 1975. It’s just too strong of a performance that would have likely been rewarded regardless of category placement.

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    If the film were released today, she would probably be in Supporting. However, I feel like she would not win.

    I myself think she was wonderful in the film. Although, I have always wondered how great Angela Lansbury would have been had she accepted the role. She plays a marvelous ice queen.   

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    Frauds in supporting roles are so popular these days, that I’m not sure the word “fraud” is correct for a case like this or Anthony Hopkins, to name another example. I find these actors/producers/studios brave for doing this and thinking they had a shot. Of course these became iconic characters and in Hopkins’ case it was iconic as soon as you left the theater so, whatever, let them be lead. 

    But Fletcher was not a lead actress, people believe sometimes that since she was the main actress or main female character she should be lead, but that’s not what I believe. She deserved an Oscar, I haven’t seen enough performances from that year to be upset about this supporting role winning in Lead.

    And I liked Lee Grant in Shampoo, so it’s great that she got her Oscar too. 

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    Laactingnyc
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    Isabelle Adjani should have won .

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    She was clearly the lead Actress, because the story was about Jack Nicholson and her. She was definitely deserving of an Oscar, and I don’t think it was in any way a category fraud.

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     I fully support Louise Fletcher’s win in the Lead Actress category. That is where she belonged in my opinion.  Plus, we got to hear that terrific speech she made……one of the best ever!   Despite everyone citing the “weak” competition (Carol Kane, Glenda Jackson, Ann-Margret, Isabelle Adjani)……it is surprising to note that the “Shampoo” ladies (Christie & Hawn) were not nominated but yet little seen films like Hester Street and Hedda were!

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    Gabriel
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    It’s not a lead role, but good for her winning in the lead category, I guess.

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    Every time Jack Nicholson won an Oscar so did his female co-star in Best Actress. Fletcher and Hunt’s wins can be explained away that easily if Oscar lovers pay attention to how these things pan out. Look for the patterns. They point to power and popularity. 

    Also screen length had little to do with whether an actor was campaigned lead or supporting. Back then they were more willing to let someone with lesser screen time compete in the major category if they so choose.

    Not to mention Shirley MacLaine in Terms of Endearment (though she was lead and he was supporting).

    Back to Fletcher.  I think the role was great, but Fletcher was just all right.  In the old days, there were not too many films with women as the protagonist (well, not that things have improved all that much), so if you’re a lead female (meaning the woman with the  most screen time in the movie), you’re qualified to be in the lead actress category, even if your role is supporting.  For this reason, you can forgive the upgrade.

    It’s the downgrade of a role in order to have a better chance of winning that galls. 

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    Fletcher did absolutly nothing for me in this movie. Any actress could have played the role. When I watch the film, its almost like she is not a villan. I did not get that feeling. I felt she was just a woman doing her job. That year sucked for female nominees… Probably the best emssemble I have seen in a film, but she was the least deserving imo. The male supporting characters would have made better nominees then her.

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