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  • Nicole Dunn
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    Sorry for the whole thread, truly, I just couldn’t find an appropriate place to put this.

    I recently watched The Departed for the first time (yes I know), and whilst I was very impressed and enjoyed it immensely, I cannot fathom how Mark Wahlberg got an Oscar nom for this.

    I was only 10 when it was released so was it a weak year? Did he ride traction of the film or am I just overlooking a good performance? 

    Thankyou! 

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    Zooey the Dreamer
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    Hm, he had critics on his side and the category was a nightmare.
    Eddie Murphy was a lock for a nomination.
    The rest wasn’t that predictable.
    Jackie Earle Haley was the critics’ pet and managed a SAG nod, so he was likely despite of his Globe snub. A near-lock.
    Arkin was snubbed by the Globes as well, but got a SAG nod and won the BAFTA. He was a near-lock.
    Hounsou had the NBR and multiple minor critics’ groups and he’s lead. He was a near-lock.
    For number five we had plenty of possibilities:
    Jack Nicholson was the early favorite for the award but then DiCaprio switched categories midseason and this led to Nicholson being snubbed by the SAG, which killed his momentum.
    DiCaprio was one of these worst category fraud cases and it didn’t happen. He was superb in the film and got Globe and Critics’ Choice nods in lead, but since he had two films and both had acclaimed performances, he switched to supporting and SAG gave him a nod in supporting. The Academy refused to follow, but since he was nominated in lead for Blood Diamond, there must have been some support for him in sipporting for The Departed. Not enough for a nod.
    The year wasn’t weak. LAFCA winner Michael Sheen was snubbed for what is a very solid lead role.
    Steve Carell was the NYFCC runner-up for Little Miss Sunshine.
    Even James MacAvoy was campaigned in supporting. 

    And finally – Mark Wahlberg got in because of a passionate small portion of the actors’ branch. There is always the passion vote. Since they vote by putting their first favorite, second, third, fourth, fifth and placement matters for the nominations, you need passion to get into the final five if you’re not a lock.

    Wahlberg had some precursors attention as well and most notably – he had the National Society of Film Critics. For some weird reason, people loved the performance.  

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    KyleBailey
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    I thought Mark should have won. He was a force of nature in that film. I loved Arkin in Sunshine, Murphy was fine in Dreamgirls, Haley was good in Children, Hounsou was good in his movie too, but Wahlberg blew me away 

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    babypook
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    It’s subjective. You’re far from the only one who feels that Mark was ‘gifted’ somehow; or that his nom was unwarranted.

    Personally I was pleasantly surprised.

    This was Scorsese’s Oscar to win; and the film ‘needed’ an Actor nomination. There is a cast of luminaries working on the film, including the great Thelma Shoonmaker manning the Editing. The critical response to the film is certainly stellar.

    I liked his accent, and I liked the suspicious nature of his character, which Mark certainly conveys. He wasnt going to ‘win’, but I’m happy for him.

    Btw have you seen Internal Affairs, by Andrew Lau and Alan Mak? This is the film The Departed is based on, or a remake if you will. You might enjoy it. More than the Departed perhaps.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    He deserved his nomination. It was one of those fun, perfectly acted, little parts that tend to get nominated every other year with people asking “what the hell?”. I absolutely love this nomination.

    This was a film for which producers and its “people” took a lot of pride for not campaigning as an Oscar film, only to go midway through the campaign and switch DiCaprio to supporting to try and commit one of the biggest Oscar frauds in history. This switch and the campaign time that was left totally screwed up Jack Nicholson. Now, Mark Wahlberg might have had his NSFC award, but I still don’t know how he managed to get that nomination considering he had to get over DiCaprio and Nicholson to get it.

    This leads me to believe Jack Nicholson was screwed way earlier than we think and the DiCaprio fraud didn’t fully catch on and allowed “somebody, anybody” from the film to get in and it was Wahlberg who was right there on the ballot and had a little bit of traction.

    The sad thing is that all of this ended up leaving the film with just one acting nominee, a small amount of total nominations and DiCaprio and Nicholson screwed. Even Matt Damon.

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    Nicole Dunn
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    Thank you very much these are really informative answers!

    I do like the role, and thought he was quite good but something didn’t quite click. With this new information it does make sense however, I agree with you babyoook about it needing a nom, though I am definitely not surprised DiCaprio wasn’t included, what a nightmare! Which is a shame, I prefered him substantially over Damon and the rest even thought that’s insignificant.

    I haven’t seen Internal Affairs yet but it’s on my list, I’ll be interested to see how I like it and I’ll let you know!

    I wish he had more scream time to extend the role because it was a complex character, suspicious is a great way to put it I wish we knew why. But overall this is great thank you!

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    ETPhoneHome
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    No need to delete this thread, there are tons of threads like this around Goldderby, and it’s always a welcome discussion in my opinion.

    I love The Departed, and Wahlberg’s performance in it. If you look at the writing he had, then imagine any other actor in the role, it could have killed the entire movie. He gave the best performance of his career so far, and I think he absolutely deserved the nomination. I agree with Babypook, that Infernal Affairs is really worth watching if you enjoyed the Departed. Even though The Departed is technically a remake, they are very different movies, and both great.

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    babypook
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    Thank you very much these are really informative answers!
    I do like the role, and thought he was quite good but something didn’t quite click. With this new information it does make sense however, I agree with you babyoook about it needing a nom, though I am definitely not surprised DiCaprio wasn’t included, what a nightmare! Which is a shame, I prefered him substantially over Damon and the rest even thought that’s insignificant.
    I haven’t seen Internal Affairs yet but it’s on my list, I’ll be interested to see how I like it and I’ll let you know!

    I wish he had more scream time to extend the role because it was a complex character, suspicious is a great way to put it I wish we knew why. But overall this is great thank you!

     

    I agree with ET. No need to delete this thread. There will be other posts with explanations as to why Mark received this nomination, along with other fun ‘facts’ and anecdotes.

     

    Get back to us if/when you get the chance to watch Internal Affairs! There’s an English-speaking version as well by Mike Figgis (Leaving Las Vegas), with Richard Gere and Andy Garcia. Overwrought, but worth the watch.

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    Nicole Dunn
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    That’s a really interesting perspective. When looking at it that way, I can see how the performance emerged through the mess that the campaign seemed to turn into. Thankfully it didn’t disrupt the films overall chances though because I do consider it a very worthy winner.

    When I think of the performance I wondered what scene they would use if they were to use clips, because I guess it reminds me of a traditional supporting performance where the characters purpose is achieved without being distracting or a questionable presence. There are often performances like this I enjoy which are overlooked for showier roles, I guess this wasn’t quite as affecting for me.

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    #186166

    I believe his nomination came about for two reasons. One, he was overdue for recognition for his acting. Two, his character has the satisfying moment at the end. These two factors contributed to him getting in supporting while the other talent from the movie split votes between themselves.

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    babypook
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    The producers are big fans/friends of Leo DiCaprio. I dont think he and Mark have ever made a film together have they?.

     I’d love to know how often these guys, including Marty and Graham King, party en masse.

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    #186168

    Was there a point where they started campaigning Nicholson in Lead? I thought I’d read that somewhere.

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    #186169

    This should have been Jack Nicholson’s nod, but the botched acting campaign did him in. It would have made for a great nomination, career capper, and possible fourth Oscar win.

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    Yeah, I don’t think anyone who watches The Departed, would guess that Wahlberg was the one of the 4 male leads to grab an Oscar nom. I like Mark. He should have been nominated for Three Kings…but a nomination here was just crazy.

    Damon especially was robbed, but DiCaprio was fantastic too (of course, he was nominated for his equally terrific work in Blood Diamond). 

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    Tye-Grr
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    I was happy to see Wahlberg nominated. He was hilarious and a scene stealer. Nicholson was too much of a cartoon (though still great), and both DiCaprio and Damon were leads IMHO.

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