Odd how McConaughey is praised for a career turn around yet Leo gets no credit for a strong career

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  • VanHeflin
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    #141172

    To me it seems like McConaughey started off strong and then had years of just cashing checks on lame romantic comedies. He suddenly decides he wants to be taken seriously and does a few projects where he at least tries to act and somehow that is seen as better than Leo who seemes to have consistanly tried to do interesting stuff ever since he was a teenager.. It would have been quite easy for Leo to have riden the Titanic wave and cashed in on silly romantic stuff.

    Iguess it is all about the “arc” ofthe storyline.

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    Halo_Insider
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    #141174

    I empathize with your sentiment, but this exact point has been raised several times on the Best Actor thread already, so I don’t think it needs its own topic. 

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    Tyler The Awesome Guy
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    I think a fair bit of luck is involved with these awards races. If McConaughey didn’t compete this year, or even if Wolf competed next year then I think that Leo would win in a heartbeat. The irony is that the majority of the awards circuit chose Chiwetel Ejiofor for Best Lead Actor. If one has a crappy year in their category, then a more obscure win is likelier.

    IMO, Leo did commit more in his role in Wolf than pretty much any actor this year and he should be commended for it. That being said, dude’s not even forty yet, so I don’t really consider him to be “overdue” as someone like Peter O’Toole or Richard Burton was.  

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    VanHeflin
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    #141176

    Is that true that Ejifor won “the majority of the awards circuit”? BAFTA seemed to me like his first major win.

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    Halo_Insider
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    There’s a thread listed at the top called “Awards Tally 2013” that shows everything won so far. Chiwetel has indeed won the most, but BAFTA is the only significant one. The critics prizes don’t really matter much, minus LAFCA, NBR, and NYFCC,none of which went to him.

    BEST ACTOR

    Christian Bale, American Hustle
    7 NOMINATIONS (Oscar, BAFTA, Golden Globe [C], BFCA, St. Louis, Houston, Denver)

    Bruce Dern, Nebraska
    3 WINS (Los Angeles, NBR, Dublin)
    13 NOMINATIONS (Oscar, SAG, BAFTA, Golden Globe [C], BFCA, Chicago, London, San Francisco, St. Louis, Phoenix, Houston, AWFJ, North Carolina)

    Leonardo DiCaprio, The Wolf of Wall Street
    1 WIN (Golden Globe [C])
    1 RUNNER-UP (Boston)

    9 NOMINATIONS (Oscar, 
    BAFTA, London, San Francisco, Detroit, Washington DC, North Carolina, Georgia, Denver)


    Chiwetel Ejiofor, 12 Years a Slave
    24 WINS (BAFTA, London, Chicago, Boston, Washington DC, NY Online, Kansas City, San Francisco, Austin, Southeastern, Online, St. Louis, Houstom, Indiana, Florida, Utah, BFC, Boston Online, Central Ohio, North Texas, Oklahoma, North Carolina, Georgia, Iowa)
    2 RUNNER-UPS (Los Angeles, National Society of Film Critics)
    11 NOMINATIONS (Oscar, SAG, 
    Golden Globe [D], BFCA, Detroit, Phoenix, San Diego, AWFJ, Vancouver, Gotham, Denver)


    Matthew McConaughey, Dallas Buyers Club
    11 WINS (SAG, Golden Globe [D], BFCA, Phoenix, Detroit, Dallas-Fort Worth, Las Vegas, Nevada, AWFJ, Denver, Gotham)
    3 RUNNER-UPs (Southeastern, Indiana, Central Ohio)
    10 NOMINATIONS (Oscar, 
    Chicago, San Francisco, St. Louis, Washington DC, San Diego, Houston, Vancouver, North Carolina, Georgia)

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    Riley
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    #141178

    Leo forever.

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    24Emmy
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    #141179

    Leo forever.

    How many nominations do you think he should have?

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    Riley
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    I have not seen most of his films.

    I much preferred him in The Aviator to Jamie Foxx in Ray.

    I do not get the praise for his Django Unchained performance though.

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    Atypical
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    McConaughey set the bar so low for himself early in his career that crossing it now in the way that he’s done it seems more impressive. DiCaprio pretty much entered the gate swinging (let’s not forget he earned his first Oscar nomination at age 19), and some circles have taken him for granted over the years. I remember the “Leo fatigue” talk that centered around him barely two years ago. He got his mojo back in “The Wolf of Wall Street” for sure, and I think it’s one of his best nominations. But at this moment in time, despite his more extensive filmography, he doesn’t have the “story” that McConaughey has in terms of clawing his way from romcom dreck to indie mainstay to Oscar darling. It’s too much to resist for voters I imagine, and it leaves DiCaprio as the bridesmaid and not the bride yet again.

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    Nessie
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    “McConaughey set the bar so low for himself early in his career that crossing it now in the way that he’s done it seems more impressive.”

    You need to see Lone Star, A Time to Kill, Frailty, Contact, Amistad, EdTV. I’ve caught up on all of them with the “McConaissance”. The actor was always there, Hollywood just didn’t know what to do with him. 

    I think the issue for McConaughey (and for all actors) was there were several actors in his age group and in his “hunk” category that he was competing with for roles (Pitt, Cruise, Damon, Dicaprio, Phoenix – well maybe Phoenix doesn’t qualify as a hunk, etc.). When The Wedding Planner was a big hit, Hollywood wanted him to be the American Hugh Grant. I don’t like romcoms, but they’re porn for women and most women love them. They locked him into a category that he remained stuck in. They say an actor’s only power is to say “no”. He finally got fed up and started saying no. But it’s hard to risk everything (if Killer Joe had gone wrong? Try to imagine any A-lister in that one – that took incredible daring to pull off), with the possible result that your career will be destroyed. That took a lot of nerve and I think that’s one thing he’s being honoured for.

    What is far more interesting is if the “McConaissance” will trigger similar re-births for good actors who were stuck by Hollywood in roles they were too good to be playing. Nicolas Cage (a brilliant actor whose career has suffered from getting stuck in action flicks) has a new film Joe which sounds exactly like a re-tread of Mud (down to casting Tye Sheridan). It looks like he’s hoping to re-engineer a McConaissance of his own.

    There are other good actors out there who might mimic McConaughey, get indie-cred and find themselves back in the game: John Cusack, maybe even Hugh Grant?  

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    Atypical
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    I’ve seen “A Time to Kill” and “Amistad” from that list. I knew that McConaughey had talent that was undervalued and underrecognized for years now. But his overall perception was something entirely different as a mainstay in useless romantic comedy leads, and now that identity has changed into a serious “actor.” That’s what I was trying to get across there.

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    Nessie
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    Check out Lone Star and Frailty – they are very surprising. Dazed & Confused was on Comedy Central this weekend and we watched it again. McConaughey is amazing in that. There was such a cast: Ben Affleck, Parker Posey, Joey Lauren Adams, Mila Jovovich but when Wooderson was on screen, you couldn’t take your eyes off him.

    There was an article in Entertainment Weekly about all the 40ish actresses who wouldn’t be able to manage a “McConaissance” because Hollywood is so unfair to older actresses. I agree, but there are loads of actors like McConaughey who were underutilised as well. 

    As a Brit, I’m astounded that Hollywood keeps importing actors from the UK (and Australia) – and how do they get work permits?? – when there are already brilliant American actors who are ignored. I guess “hot new thing” is sexier than “I never knew he had that in him”. 
     

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    #141185

    Leo always gets praised. Just never found him worthy of a win besides 2013.

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    Atypical
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    #141186

    Give it time, Leo, give it time lol.

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    Icky
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    #141187

    Disrespect to respect has always been a sexier storyline than maintaining a solid career. Besides, Leo hasn’t given that one truly Oscar type performance. The Aviator probably came too early. The one time he really reached for the Oscar in an Oscar-type movie it ends up being J Edgar.

    Matthew has done good work here and there throughout his career, but it’s been concentrated in the last couple of years, when people thought his career as a “star” was done. I probably prefer Matthew’s few best performances over what I consider Leo’s few best (I don’t consider ‘Dallas’ one of Matt’s few best btw).

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