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    #108928

    And after today, it WILL be the ENDer for any boxoffice hope of success. The book’s author went on a wild rant:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/15/orson-scott-card-racist-obama_n_3762891.html

    Looks like “Ender’s Game” author Orson Scott Card is in hot water yet again.

    Last time around, Card was criticized for saying that “there are no laws
    left standing that discriminate against gay couples” and suggesting
    that being gay is a choice. He also expressed his opposition to same-sex
    marriage, saying “I will act to destroy that government and bring it
    down, so it can be replaced with a government that will respect and
    support marriage, and help me raise my children in a society where they
    will expect to marry in their turn.”

    Now, as Slate’s Dave Weigel points out, comments Card made in a May blog
    post about President Obama have shocked the internet community.

    “Obama is, by character and preference, a dictator,” Card wrote before
    comparing the President of the United States to Adolf Hitler.

    Here’s more:  Obama will claim we need a national police force in order
    to fight terrorism and crime. The Boston bombing is a useful start,
    especially when combined with random shootings by crazy people.  Where
    will he get his “national police”? The NaPo will be recruited from
    “young out-of-work urban men” and it will be hailed as a cure for the
    economic malaise of the inner cities.  In other words, Obama will put a
    thin veneer of training and military structure on urban gangs, and send
    them out to channel their violence against Obama’s enemies.

    Aside from strong-arming the country through his “urban gang” army, Card
    claims, Obama will also reassert his power through puppet dictators.
    Possible proxy leaders? Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama.  As author
    Maureen Johnson puts it, “I don’t know where Orson Scott Card goes from
    here, except maybe to declare war on the moon.”

    Although his theories may seem shocking, Card is hardly the first person
    to suggest Obama has a secret army. Earlier this year, Gun Owners of
    America president Larry Pratt suggested that Obama wanted a “civilian
    force equal in strength to the military.” 

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    babypook
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    #108930

    This is nothing new for OS Card. He postures like this. He can be, imo, such an ass hole. But, I’m not convinced  the film will bomb. The novel has a cult following, and I can see why. It’s a phenomenal book and is also, highly regarded. Even for those who have not read the novel, look at the cast. Plus, I suspect the screenplay, will be exceptional (finger’s crossed).

    As for his politics, I’m not going to go there. Let’s just say I dont think he’s crazy at all. Lol. 

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    delerian
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    I’m not going to watch or ever see this movie. Orson Scott Card is a bad person and I have no intention to acknowledge any of his creations while he is alive. I’m guessing that he has probably been paid already so that it doesn’t matter how the film does. But it does matter if people recognize him and give him an opportunity to spew his hate speech.

    And to be fair, OSC doesn’t mind boycotts. As one of the board members of NOM, he organized many of them. Oh wait. I did hear that he was upset about boycotts against this film. I guess that makes him a hypocrite in addition to being a bigot. I feel bad for the studio and everyone involved in this film, but next time they might want to check if the author of a work they are trying to adapt is a very outspoked homophobe or racist.

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    babypook
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    Well, you arent alone in feeling that way delerian. The cast is going to attract that magical age group, and the novel is going to attract the egg heads who have read it..  I’d be surprised if the younger audience would have read it, but what do I know?

    Actually, this is reminiscent of L Ron Hubbard. Some of his sci-fi works are remarkable, and noone has made a film that comes anywhere near his particular genius.  As far as I know, nobody likes him much. LOL! 

    The book, (Ender’s Game) is a masterpiece. I’m no racist or homophobe, and I’m watching this in a theatre,likely on opening day.  

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    vinny
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    never read the book……..want to see the movie though.

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    Tye-Grr
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    By my own morals and beliefs, I cannot and will not watch this in theaters. I will not contribute to his anti-gay causes. I love his book, yes, but I cannot give him my hard earned dollars when I know that he funds anti-gay organisations, and he’s bound to contractually earn something from the profits. I’ll wait til it comes to Starz.  

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    DamianWayne
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    I’ll wait til it comes to Starz.

    This made me laugh so hard.

    I’m not seeing this either. Card can rot. 

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    babypook
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    ^
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    I empathize entirely.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vP0cUBi4hwE  

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    GoMe91
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    Mixed feelings!

    I hate OSC, and I found his book “meh” to be honest…but I really like the cast (DAVIS, Steinfeld, Breslin). And I was actually looking forward to this movie before I learned what kind of human OSC really is.

    I hope it gets bad reviews so my decision will be easy  

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    babypook
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    Mixed feelings!

    I hate OSC, and I found his book “meh” to be honest…but I really like the cast (DAVIS, Steinfeld, Breslin). And I was actually looking forward to this movie before I learned what kind of human OSC really is.

    I hope it gets bad reviews so my decision will be easy  

    That could happen. Battlefield Earth anyone? If it does I’ll be less willing to see a film which destroys the masterpiece his book is, which has not an ounce of racism or homophobia. Still,  I rarely wish a film ill (unless it is Dennis Dugan).  

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    Really torn on this issue. The words OSC has uttered are quite disgusting and the last thing i wanna do is put money in his pocket but im a fan of Hailee & Asa and Viola and want to support them. Dunno what to do, if i rent it does he get money? anyone know

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    babypook
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    Encouraging. I had doubts about how they were going to adapt this novel.

    ‘Ender’s Game’ Review: Complex Sci-Fi Adventure That Appeals to Children’s Inner Adults

    Movies | By on October 25, 2013 @ 12:00 am

     
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    For a scathing critique of wartime morality, “Ender’s Game” offers some of the coolest simulations of videogame warfare ever.

    Directed by Gavin Hood (“X-Men Origins: Wolverine”) from his own adaptation of Orson Scott Card’s novel of the same name, it sacrifices none of the source material’s complexity in chronicling the eponymous hero’s journey from trainee to commander of Earth’s armies. In doing so, he’s successfully crafted an allegorical film designed to attract large numbers of kids — even if many of them will miss the intricacies of its underlying message.

    Asa Butterfield (“Hugo”) plays Ender Wiggin, a military trainee in a futuristic society where adults enlist children as the first line of defense against an imminent alien invasion. Chosen by Col. Graff (Harrison Ford) for Battle School because of his penchant for strategic thinking, Ender quickly rises through the ranks, but not without creating a few enemies and generally alienating himself from the others.

    See photos: ‘Ender’s Game’ Stills: Harrison Ford, Hailee Steinfeld, Asa Butterfield

    After proving himself in the academy’s zero-gravity war simulator, Ender is promoted to Command School and put through rigorous training to learn how to control entire armies in combat situations. But as the stakes for his simulations intensify, he begins to question whether the complete and total destruction of his enemies – even if it’s to eliminate future conflicts – is truly the best strategy that he can use.

    Although it utilizes the same hero’s-journey boilerplate that provided the foundation for everything from “Star Wars” to “Harry Potter,” “Ender’s Game” seems to come by it honestly, at least insofar as Ender goes through real tribulations, physical and philosophical, to earn his spot as “The One.”

    See video: Harrison Ford Introduces First ‘Ender’s Game’ Footage

    Ostracized for being the third kid in a world that mandates two per family, he embodies the balance between his brother Peter’s aggression and sister Valentine’s compassion, and Graff repeatedly tests not only his body, but his problem-solving abilities, and perhaps most importantly, his resolve in the face of adversity.

    Thanks to Hood’s sophisticated adaptation of Card’s source material, there’s much topically to appreciate from an adult perspective, not the least of which being the questionable morality of a pre-emptive military strike. But like a disillusioned adolescent discovering that his parents lie, Ender experiences a powerful epiphany when he discovers that his superiors’ efforts to protect him from the repercussions of his actions have made him blind to the moral and emotional weight of his sacrifice-for-the-common-good strategies.

    Also read: ‘Ender’s Game’ Author Orson Scott Card Responds to Boycott: Calls Gay Marriage Issue ‘Moot’

    Reunited with cinematographer Don McAlpine, with whom he collaborated on “Origins,”  Hood seems more confident tackling this big-budget opus than his previous one, skillfully navigating his character through the grown-up complexities of training exercises which outwardly seem like child’s play. That said, those deeper themes occasionally make the film feel like a bit of a joyless slog, and even at two packed hours, some of the mythology of this kid-based, futuristic world feels rushed.

    As a young man placed in charge of responsibilities much bigger than himself, Butterfield struggles with his character’s destiny about as well as a child actor can, lending him the right notes of naiveté when necessary without undermining his believability as the most formidable military mind in the seventh grade.

    Meanwhile, Ford offers a perfect foil in Graff (more like gruff!) for Ender’s developing maturity, applying the stick and the carrot in equal measures to simultaneously build confidence and nurture his leadership skills.

    See video: ‘Ender’s Game’ Trailer: Asa Butterfield, Hailee Steinfeld Are a ‘New Kind of Soldier’
    Bolstered by solid performances and a clean, elegant visual style, Hood ultimately delivers a film that actually earns the distinction of being for audiences of all ages.

    But he accomplishes this insurmountable task not by successfully tapping into his adult viewers’ inner children but by appealing to children’s inner adults — not quite asking them to grow up, but just begin to consider the more complicated world that lurks out on the horizon.

    Ultimately as much a polemical as tentpole entertainment, “Ender’s Game” is a rare example of filmmaking with a scalpel at a scale that usually demands a hatchet.

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    vinny
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    Is it worth reading the novel?

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    GoMe91
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    Oh no! This movie is getting good reviews. Time to make a moral decision! 

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    delerian
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    Very early indications are mixed. It has a 71% at RT, but the average rating is 5.6. Metacritic is 59 with 6 reviews in.

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