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  • Bill Buchanan
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    #65535

    Here it is… Peter Jackson has officially announced that The Hobbit will be turned not into one… not into two… but into THREE motion pictures.

    Comment and discuss right here on this thread…

    “It is only at the end of a shoot that you finally get the chance to sit down and have a look at the film you have made. Recently Fran, Phil and I did just this when we watched for the first time an early cut of the first movie – and a large chunk of the second. We were really pleased with the way the story was coming together, in particular, the strength of the characters and the cast who have brought them to life.  All of which gave rise to a simple question: do we take this chance to tell more of the tale? And the answer from our perspective as the filmmakers, and as fans, was an unreserved ‘yes.’  

     

    We know how much of the story of Bilbo Baggins, the Wizard Gandalf, the Dwarves of Erebor, the rise of the Necromancer, and the Battle of Dol Guldur will remain untold if we do not take this chance.  The richness of the story of The Hobbit, as well as some of the related material in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings, allows us to tell the full story of the adventures of Bilbo Baggins and the part he played in the sometimes dangerous, but at all times exciting, history of Middle-earth.

     

    So, without further ado and on behalf of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Wingnut Films, and the entire cast and crew of “The Hobbit” films, I’d like to announce that two films will become three.  

     

    It has been an unexpected journey indeed, and in the words of Professor Tolkien himself, “a tale that grew in the telling.”

     

    Cheers, 

     

    Peter J” 

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    Guest2014
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    #65537

    This is so wrong.  I thought Jackson would be above this.   Blood from a stone, anyone?

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    Carbon Based Lifeform
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    #65538

    The individual extended versions of Jackson’s film adaptation of THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy are even better and more engrossing than the original cuts. Of course, THE HOBBIT is nowhere near as lengthy or complicated a tale as LOTR, but if Jackson can embellish it with materials from the LOTR appendices and deliver a three-part HOBBIT trilogy that is anywhere near as good as his adaptation of LOTR, I’m in.

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    babypook
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    #65539

    Me too. Somehow, I cant imagine Jackson cramming in all three books into one LOTR film.

    I had thought that Jackson might rethink this decision and extend the film to two at most. But I can support three if they’re up to his standard. Actually, I can $ee the rea$oning behind the deci$ion, literally speaking-wise of cour$e.

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    Scottferguson
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    #65540

    The Lord of the Rings (theatrical version of the film) runs about 10 hours.

    The Hobbit in three parts could be as little as 5 (3 100 minute films).

    So the shorter length of the book need not be of itself be an issue.     

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    Bill Buchanan
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    The Lord of the Rings (theatrical version of the film) runs about 10 hours.

    The Hobbit in three parts could be as little as 5 (3 100 minute films).

    So the shorter length of the book need not be of itself be an issue.     

    You are kiddin right? Peter Jackson will never make three 100 minute films for The Hobbit. They will be at least 150 minutes long (2.5 hours) each. That’s 7 and a half hours total. but it could be more…

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    Madson Melo
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    Jackson had access to certain letters and notes of Tolkien about Hobbit that contains subplots and details, and many of them weren’t even published. It was during the filming for TLOR, Tolkien’s son gave to him.

    I don’t like The Lovely Bones, except Ronan, but I trust in Jackson. Let’s hope for the best.

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    Film Turtle
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    Honestly, I’m fine with this. The money is all up on the screen. It’s an immersive experience that makes it worth going out to the theatre. Whether the films hold together remains to be seen; we can definitely nitpick the original trilogy. But I had a great movie experience with the “LOTR” films–particularly liked the extended version of “The Two Towers”–so I’m happy to go along with this.

    And from a purely financial point of view, it’s delivering a f**kload of money to the studios releasing the third movie and everyone else sharing in the profits. Hollywood worships that kind of thing. 

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    Bill Buchanan
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    NEW TRAILER FOR THE HOBBIT!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocwXjmMysZ4 

    I’m a LOTR fanboy and I’m not ashamed to admit it… and that was AWESOME!!!

    “Why the halfling?”

    Kill me now… 

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    babypook
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    NEW TRAILER FOR THE HOBBIT!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocwXjmMysZ4 

    I’m a LOTR fanboy and I’m not ashamed to admit it… and that was AWESOME!!!

    “Why the halfling?”

    Kill me now… 

    “I’m a LOTR fanboy and I’m not ashamed to admit it”

    Me too. So much more entertaining for me than suicide, truth twisting, religion-bashing, confinement for brainwashing profit,, and so on. Lol.
    Thanks for the youtube link. This cant come soon enough for me.

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    theproblemdog
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    wow the cinematography looks beautiful. I’m excited.

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    babypook
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    wow the cinematography looks beautiful. I’m excited.

    It does! It’s Andrew Lesnie again. Hopefully he’ll contend for another win.

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    DamianWayne
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    Sigh. I wasn’t a fan of the book and these trailers aren’t doing much to interest me in the films either. I’m looking forward to seeing how it looks in 48 frames over everything else.

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    Carbon Based Lifeform
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    Had to go back 9 pages to find this thread, but bad publicity won’t be stifled:

    ‘Hobbit’ Animal Deaths: Up To 27 Die As Wranglers Blame Production Company

     

    By NICK PERRY

    11/19/12 08:02 AM ET EST

     

     


    WELLINGTON, New Zealand — Animal wranglers involved in the
    making of “The Hobbit” movie trilogy say the production company is
    responsible for the deaths of up to 27 animals, largely because they
    were kept at a farm filled with bluffs, sinkholes and other “death
    traps.”

    The American Humane Association, which is overseeing animal welfare
    on the films, says no animals were harmed during the actual filming. But
    it also says the wranglers’ complaints highlight shortcomings in its
    oversight system, which monitors film sets but not the facilities where
    the animals are housed and trained.

    A spokesman for trilogy director Peter Jackson on Monday
    acknowledged that horses, goats, chickens and one sheep died at the farm
    near Wellington where about 150 animals were housed for the movies, but
    he said some of the deaths were from natural causes.

    The spokesman, Matt Dravitzki, agreed that the deaths of two horses
    were avoidable, and said the production company moved quickly to improve
    conditions after they died.

    “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey,” the first movie in the planned
    $500 million trilogy, is scheduled to launch with a red-carpet premiere
    Nov. 28 in Wellington and will open at theaters in the U.S. and around
    the world in December. The animal rights group People for the Ethical
    Treatment of Animals says it’s planning protests at the premieres in New
    Zealand, the U.S. and the U.K.

    The Associated Press spoke to four wranglers who said the farm near
    Wellington was unsuitable for horses because it was peppered with
    bluffs, sinkholes and broken-down fencing. They said they repeatedly
    raised concerns about the farm with their superiors and the production
    company, owned by Warner Bros., but it continued to be used. They say
    they want their story aired publicly now to prevent similar deaths in
    the future.

    One wrangler said that over time he buried three horses, as well as
    about six goats, six sheep and a dozen chickens. The wranglers say two
    more horses suffered severe injuries but survived.

    Wrangler Chris Langridge said he was hired as a horse trainer in
    November 2010, overseeing 50 or so horses, but immediately became
    concerned that the farm was full of “death traps.” He said he tried to
    fill in some of the sinkholes, made by underground streams, and even
    brought in his own fences to keep the horses away from the most
    dangerous areas. Ultimately, he said, it was an impossible task.

    He said horses run at speeds of up to 30 mph and need to be housed on flat land: “It’s just a no-brainer.”

    The first horse to die, he said, was a miniature named Rainbow.

    “When I arrived at work in the morning, the pony was still alive but
    his back was broken. He’d come off a bank at speed and crash-landed,”
    Langridge said. “He was in a bad state.”

    Rainbow, who had been slated for use as a hobbit horse, was
    euthanized. A week later, a horse named Doofus got caught in some
    fencing and sliced open its leg. That horse survived, but Langridge said
    he’d had enough.

    He and his wife, Lynn, who was also working as a wrangler, said they
    quit in February 2011. The following month, they wrote an email to
    Brigitte Yorke, the Hobbit trilogy’s unit production manager, outlining
    their concerns.

    Chris Langridge said he responded to Yorke’s request for more information but never received a reply after that.

    Wrangler Johnny Smythe said that soon after Langridge left, a horse
    named Claire was found dead, its head submerged in a stream after it
    fell over a bluff. After that, he said, the horses were put in stables,
    where a third horse died.

    Smythe said no autopsy was performed on the horse, which was named
    Zeppelin. Veterinary records say the horse died of natural causes, from a
    burst blood vessel, but Smythe said the horse was bloated and its
    intestines were full of a yellow liquid; he believes it died of
    digestive problems caused by new feed.

    Smythe said the six goats and six sheep he buried died after falling
    into sinkholes, contracting worms or getting new feed after the grass
    was eaten. He said the chickens were often left out of their enclosure
    and that a dozen were mauled to death by dogs on two separate occasions.

    Smythe said he was fired in October 2011 after arguing with his boss about the treatment of the animals.

    A fourth wrangler, who didn’t want to be named because she feared it
    could jeopardize her future employment in the industry, said another
    horse, Molly, got caught in a fence and ripped her leg open, suffering
    permanent injuries.

    Dravitzki, the spokesman for Peter Jackson, said the production
    company reacted swiftly after the first two horses died, spending
    hundreds of thousands of dollars upgrading housing and stable facilities
    in early 2011.

    “We do know those deaths were avoidable and we took steps to make sure it didn’t happen again,” he said.

    Dravitzki said Zeppelin died of a burst blood vessel and that he knew
    only of three goats, one sheep and about eight chickens that had died
    aside from that. He said two of the goats died in a cold snap but the
    third, like the sheep, was old and had likely died of natural causes. He
    said the chicken maulings were the result of careless staff oversight.

    The American Humane Association said in its report on “An Unexpected
    Journey” that it investigated the farm at the production company’s
    request. Dravitzki said the company contacted the AHA after Smythe
    alleged mistreatment of animals.

    Mark Stubis, an association spokesman, said it investigated the farm in August 2011, months after the first deaths.

    “We made safety recommendations to the animals’ living areas. The
    production company followed our recommendations and upgraded fence and
    farm housing, among other things,” the group said.

    Dravitzki said the company had already made many of the recommended changes by the time the AHA made them.

    Stubis said the association acknowledges that what happens off-set remains a blind spot in its oversight.

    “We would love to be able to monitor the training of animals and the
    housing of animals,” Stubis said. “It’s something we are looking into.
    We want to make sure the animals are treated well all the time.”

    Dravitzki questioned the timing of the allegations with the premiere
    so close but said the producers are investigating all the claims “and
    are attempting to speak with all parties involved to establish the
    truth.”

    He said the company no longer leases the farm and has no animals left
    on the property. He said he didn’t know if animals will be needed for
    future filming in the trilogy, but added that Jackson himself adopted
    three of the pigs used.

    Hollywood has made animal welfare a stated priority for years.

    In March, HBO canceled the horse racing series “Luck” after three
    thoroughbred horses died during production. The network said it canceled
    the show because it could not guarantee against future accidents.

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    babypook
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    #65550

    I received notices about this yesterday morning and my heart sank. I didnt want to read it. Did you happen to read what Jackson said in his defense btw? He fails to mention that NONE of these fellow creatures had any choice about being in this film. What was wrong, not enough money for Mr CGI king to use fake animals?

    This was one movie I had no compunctions about seeing. Now, it has joined the ranks of films I dont want to see. I’ll pass on this one. I also, cant find it inside me to root for it either.
    This has been a terrible year for me in terms of anticipation. Last year, it was War Horse. This year, I dont have enough fingers and toes to count them.

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