April 3, 2013 at 12:13 am #97981
There are always some
performances which are supported by the whole media and praised by the
audience. Long shots which are normally out of “a normal” Oscar race. Can you
1. Melissa McCarthy “Bridesmaids”
I remember that I made a „Melissa McCarthy
Deserves an Oscar nomination for Bridesmaids” facebook group and 500+
people joined to support her Oscar chances. And she made it. I’m not saying
that because of the group but it perfectly showed that people desperately
wanted her to make it for a non Oscar-type of comedic performance. All of the
biggest magazines put her on cover, was invited for SNL and several shows like
Ellen and was called “the new queen of comedy”. She also won an Emmy probably
for “Bridesmaids”. Her princess story is beautiful and I’m so happy that she’s
now an Oscar nominee. I wanted her to win over Octavia Spencer, but as I said
on that Facebook group as the leader: we wanted an Oscar nomination, not a win,
the nomination itself is still amazing!
2. Jacki Weaver “Animal Kingdom”
She only made it because of the hysteria around her performance by the audience
and some of the media people. While I don’t get thy hype around her performance
she should be definitely grateful for her supporters.
Who else?April 3, 2013 at 1:13 am #97983
I don’t know about Melissa McCartney, but I totally disagree with Jackie Weaver. She’s won several critics awards, including LA and NBR, so she was definitely on the radar. Her film wasn’t that big so I don’t know where the supposed “hysteria” was coming from. You make it sound like she got in not on her merit, which is totally far from the truth. It was one of the best performances of the year. I honestly think she was either 2nd or 3rd that year and very much deserved her nomination.
Anne Hathaway’s Fantine totally stems from the media hype. Whether she lived up to said hype is subjective, but as soon as the first clip of Les Mis trailer was released, she was helmed as the front runner. Hype hype hype until the media got fed up with her theatricality. You can even say the “media” gave her the oscar to finally shut her up.
Another case can also be made for Viola Davis. She was hyped by the media as an “opportunity” to reward another African-American actress, especially because she was African-American, which is total bullshit since she gave a serviceable (no pun intended) SUPPORTING performance.April 3, 2013 at 2:41 am #97984
misunderstood the whole point. It’s really not about preferences, it’s about
performances which are wouldn’t be in consideration without media &
audience support. Jacki Weaver’s short performance in that mediocre movie was
really not enough for itself. She needed the support to be in the conversation.
I think she was easily a filler nominee and almost lost the last spot for Mila
Hathaway’s role was written to be an Oscar-winner role. She was the front
runner since the beginning; she really didn’t need the support by no one. The
performance spoke for itself. Also,
people kind of hated her in the last month so she really did not have the
support by the audience but no one could deny it that it was an Oscar-worthy
role. And the Academy do not give an Oscar for someone to “shut up”, they voted
for her because they liked her performance. Her attitude is another thing. She’s
my favorite actress, but I agree that she was a little over the top – but as I
said earlier it has nothing to do with her beautiful performance.
While I agree your point about Davis
(that people needed a new black actress winner no matter what), still, she was
not making it because the media & audience support. This thread mainly
about “the nominations process and the non type of Oscar contenders who are
made it because they got support”. Davis was easily in the Top 3 since she went lead. She was a lock for the nomination and some also belived that for the win, too.April 3, 2013 at 1:16 pm #97985
How do you even know that “audience and media hype” is a factor in a nomination, let alone the sole factor? You’re just picking names based on your preference. Who’s to say that someone has a “typical Oscar performance”? Like take this year’s actress race. None of them are really “Oscar performances”.April 3, 2013 at 1:33 pm #97986
How do you even know that “audience and media hype” is a factor in a nomination, let alone the sole factor? You’re just picking names based on your preference. Who’s to say that someone has a “typical Oscar performance”? Like take this year’s actress race. None of them are really “Oscar performances”.
Agreed. Because by that vague definition, I too would say Hathaway was totally hyped by the media, and WELL before any footage was even seen or any songs were heard. Magazines and blogs were already declaring her a front runner, and that status helped propel her to the level of hype she reached and possibly carried her all the way to the win.April 3, 2013 at 7:23 pm #97987
Wouldn’t Sandra Bullock fit this thread? “The Blind Side” did great at the box office. She gave a pleasant, if unspectacular, performance and that lead to her beating Gabby Sidibe due to the media hyping it up as a “career Oscar” for Sandy.April 3, 2013 at 11:57 pm #97988
Just a minor check, that year was between Bullock and Streep. Sidibe was probably fourth or fifth.April 4, 2013 at 12:09 am #97989
Sidibe was pretty much the 4th that year.
It was definitely like this:
3. Streep or Mulligan
2. Streep or Mulligan (I’m not sure, everyone said it was between Bullock and Streep but was it? Mulligan won the Bafta over Streep, so she had the british votes…)
1. BullockApril 4, 2013 at 12:54 pm #97990
I’d say Octavia Spencer winning for The Help is a big example of this. Personally I thought she deserved a nomination, but Jessica Chastain deserved to win it, she blew me away with her performance. This may be me being cynical, but was the only reason the press raved about Spencer was because they thought it would be racist to say that in a film about racism the best performance was by a white woman?April 5, 2013 at 8:18 pm #97991
Jackie Weaver should be grateful??
As a viewer, I’m the one who is grateful. She is absolutely chilling.
This is all pretty subjective, coming from a place where the “media” means SQUAT to me.April 5, 2013 at 8:20 pm #97992
Wouldn’t Sandra Bullock fit this thread? “The Blind Side” did great at the box office. She gave a pleasant, if unspectacular, performance and that lead to her beating Gabby Sidibe due to the media hyping it up as a “career Oscar” for Sandy.
Bingo bingo bingo!April 5, 2013 at 9:39 pm #97993
I’d say Octavia Spencer winning for The Help is a big example of this. Personally I thought she deserved a nomination, but Jessica Chastain deserved to win it, she blew me away with her performance. This may be me being cynical, but was the only reason the press raved about Spencer was because they thought it would be racist to say that in a film about racism the best performance was by a white woman?
Spencer won as a get out of racist jail free card for awards bodies who went for Streep.April 6, 2013 at 12:03 am #97994
^ You should really build a bridge and get over it. Meryl Streep won. End o’ Story.
April 6, 2013 at 2:26 am #97995
People trying to compare
legend Streep with character actress Davis all the time and they also like to
bitching about how unfair was that Streep won for a better performance and
Davis didn’t for being black. I’m getting tired of this topic about “black
people and the Oscar”. Asian people does not get shit, still I
haven’t heard a single comment made by them about how unfair it is. There
is not enough black actors on the world to nominate them all. I think all of
the great one won the well-deserved Oscar or were nominated for the Oscar.
People wanted Davis
to win it to have the second Best Actress winner. It’s kind of lame and
everyone who supported this idea should not go to any Oscar forum ever
again because if somebody choose the “race” to win the gold over the
“best performance” is very awful and sad.
I wish all the black actors the best. And I don’t have anything against
preferences. Really. But I want to be sure that people want someone to win the
award for being the best in the category and not for being white or black.April 6, 2013 at 4:33 am #97996
I find it ridculous too, it’s called posiive discrimination isn’t it; and I know positive is in the title but still it’s terrible. Did Viola Davis want to go down in history as someone they gave an oscar to because a black actress was overdue another win in lead? I mean it hasn’t done wonders for Halle Berry; she did a good job in what I’ve seen of Monster’s Ball but a lot of her win was just politics and now a lot of people thought she was an undeserving winner – does Viola Davis want that?
Davis is a good actress and when she does an amazing performance and gets nominated and is the consensus best of the nominees , then she should win! But not before then.