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    I’m not sure if this is the right spot to post this, but hear me out.

    Records seem to be falling left and right. But without context, these can not truly be called records (hello box office totals without adjusting for inflation).

     

    Two Oscar records that fall into this trap are most nominations and wins by a film

     

    All About Eve Received 14 noms in 1950. When Titanic received 14 in 1997 many people assumed the record had been tied. But here is where context plays a key.

     

    Two of the categories that Titanic was nominated in, (Sound, and Makeup) did not exist in 1950. By using All About Eve’s template, Titanic only has 12 nominations. By this same metric All About Eve would only have 13, losing its costume design nom which did not exist in 1939. This would tie Gone with the Wind.

     

    Which brings us to our next record, Ben-Hur’s 11 wins. Same as above, it is assumed that Titanic and Return of the King tied this record too. Using Ben-Hur’s template, Titanic would lose one win (sound), and Return of the King would lose two, (sound, and makeup). Prior to Ben-Hur’s 11 wins, Gigi held the record with 9 the year before. Since the same categories were present both years, Ben-Hur’s record stands.

     

    As the field continues to expand with new categories (don’t get me started on the Best Picture expansion), these numbers will soon get passed, and the older films will lose their records. But with the help of context, some of us will know who the actual record holders are. The record is not truly broken unless it is passed using the record-holders template.

     

    Anyways, back to my original point. Eyes Wide Shut would have saved the NC-17 rating from uselessness had Kubrick not died.

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    babypook
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    “….some of us will know who the actual record holders are. “

    Well I’m really happy for you. Truly. 

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    Daniel B.
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    “Only three animated films have been nominated for Best Picture: Beauty and the Beast, Up and Toy Story 3.
    Beauty and the Beast was the only one to pull off this accomplishment when there were only 5 nominees for Best Picture. Since the Academy has expanded their list of nominees to 10, Up and Toy Story 3 got in, and probably wouldn’t have in a year with 5 nominees.  Also, many animated films probably would have been nominated for Best Picture had there always been 10, or “up to 10” nominees (Finding Nemo, Toy Story, The Lion King, The Jungle Book, Shrek, The Incredibles, Ratatouille, and WALL-E, to name a few).  Also, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs opened really late in 1937 and didn’t really build up a lot of momentum until 1938. Thus, the reason the Academy felt the need to give Walt Disney a special award the following year, since it was no longer eligible for any Oscars. I have a funny feeling that had the film been released either a few months earlier or later, it would have been nominated for Best Picture either in 1937 or 1938, and believe it or not, might have even won.

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